gleofrocga Dec 20, 2013 @ 5:11pm
Steam And Firewall
So, Earlier my internet was lagging so I decided to reconnect via windows 7. Upon reconnecting a window came up for Windows Firewall about the Steam Boot Strapper client for access. I can't remember if it was public or private. If I am correct, should the boot strapper client be public on the firewall and the normal steam be private? Like when I go to allow programs on the firewall should it be

Steam - Private
Steam Boot Strapper - Public

Thank you for your time.
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Kargor Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:19am 
That's up to you.

I'm not actually using this private/public distinction anywhere since I don't have a mobile device, but the basic idea is that your private network is more "trusted" than some random public hotspot, and thus will export more stuff like fileservers that aren't needed on public networks.

The Steam client, however, isn't even a server -- it's a client. It connects TO the Steam servers, but cannot be attacked from other parties. As such, you can put it on the public network too.

At least I'm assuming Steam doesn't send your credentials in clear text: anything that goes on a public network CAN be intercepted by pretty much anyone, so anything that's even remotely confidential must be encrypted.

I don't know how well Steam protects against man-in-the-middle attacks, though. Public networks are inherently non-trustworthy, and you have to expect every (reasonable) kind of attack happening there. On a MitM-scenario, your connection to the Steam servers would be intercepted by a third party so you're really connecting to THEIR server, and their server would talk to the real Steam server. Using their box in between, they can do anything from just recording your communication with the Steam servers to maniupulating it in any way they want.
In theory, Steam should not be vulnerable to such attacks, but you never know.

So, there is the other criterion: if you aren't going to use Steam while you're travelling, you can just as well restrict it to private networks. On the other hand, if you aren't using Steam it doesn't matter whether it WOULD be allowed to connect on a public network, since you're not even trying to...
Last edited by Kargor; Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:22am
Bad 💀 Motha Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:38am 
Do u not understand the differences?

Rules set to Private are for when u have your Network set to Home/Work (Home=HomeGroup; Work=NoHomeGroup)

Public = Public Network!
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:39am
Kargor Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:40am 
Originally posted by Keyes:
Okay, So I'll just put them on Private?

As I said, that's up to you and your requirements really. If you use the private/public distinction correctly (read: nothing will prevent you from connecting to a public hotspot and telling Windows that this is a private network), this will prevent your Steam from connecting on, let's say, public hotspots. Public hotspots ARE a first class security risk, and if you're not entrely sure how well some software protects against various attack scenarios, limiting it to "private" is generally a good choice.

now the next question, why did it pop after I reconnected to the internet? I disconnected and reconnected and it came up with the normal firewall notice.

No idea. I don't care about the Windows firewall anyway, since all my boxes are on a LAN -- so the crucial node is the gateway.
Bad 💀 Motha Dec 21, 2013 @ 3:49am 
Doesn't really matter, unless u actually ever set your system to "Public Network" then it never will matter. Just set them all to Private if u never use Public network settings.

Only reason to use Public network settings are when using public WiFi and u want to easily disable all forms of network file/device sharing.
Bad 💀 Motha Dec 21, 2013 @ 4:02am 
If there are multiple entries like that there is usually a reason;

If one says Private and other say Private, just uncheck the one you to not want and then check the one u do want.

For instance when u view the whole list of your Firewall rules; Steam should look like this.

Steam...........[X] Private.... [_] Public
Steam...........[_] Private.... [X] Public

If this is the case, simply change so they are both set to the same of what u prefer.

Such as:

Steam...........[X] Private.... [_] Public
Steam...........[X] Private.... [_] Public
Piziiii Dec 21, 2013 @ 4:04am 
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Bad 💀 Motha Dec 21, 2013 @ 4:15am 
Yes; at the very least u will always want the boxes for Private checked.
Public is optional.
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