The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Grimalkin Nov 18, 2014 @ 5:59pm
Skyrim: Pelagius Wing Gone
I was starting a new game today for Elder Scrolls Skyrim and I was downloading a bunch of fun mods for it. I downloaded a player home mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/48850/? . The description for the mod claims that you don't need to have completed the Mind of Madness questline or have any DLC to use the mod and it shouldn't affect the game so I thought it was safe. I used the NMM to download, uninstall, etc., and BOSS Auto Sort through this whole process.

Everything was fine in the game (experienced the horse cart bug in the intro) until I got to the Blue Palace. The key that the servant gives you would not unlock the "Restored Pelagius Wing". The description for the mod did say that to unlock the PLAYER HOME you would find this colored box and do a scavange hunt etc., etc., but it didn't say you HAD to do the hunt just to get into the wing and to finish the Sheo questline. Deciding I didn't feel like dealing with it, I just uninstalled the mod entirely and reloaded my game right? To my horror, I found that the Pelagius Wing is now gone! Where the door used to be is now just a grey square and when you go through it it's like you start no clipping into the background.

I tried reinstalling skyrim a lot, but it didn't work. I tried installing a different Pelagius home mod but that didn't work. I tried uninstalling all the NMM mods, uninstalling NMM, uninstalling Skyrim, and deleting the Skyrim folder from the steamapps, then simply reinstalled Skyrim but NOT NMM or the extra mods, just to see if it would work. It didn't. I know it can't be any of the other mods because I could play fine with everything else until that player home mod.

I posted a comment on both the Skyrim workshop and to the modder's Nexus forum, but so far I haven't had any luck.

The only thing that remotely seems to fix it is to reinstall the player home mod, but then that just puts me right back where I started where even though the Pelagius Wing exists, I can't get inside, nor do I know if I can even complete the daedra questline now.

Currently I do NOT have the player home mod installed, nor NMM, or any of the mods from Nexus, but the Pelagius Wing is still gone. I don't understand what's happening! Please help!

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Grimalkin Nov 18, 2014 @ 9:56pm 
UPDATE:

I tried typing COC OLDbluepalacewing01 and COC bluepalacewing01 in console, and from the looks of it, the Pelagius wing exists somewhere, but it's all corrupted and screwed up. It's as if I'm still using that mod, because the wing is altered and REALLY HUGE, but I'm not anymore and it shouldn't be effecting my game anymore >:P. WTF
⛧NecRoBile⛧ Nov 19, 2014 @ 5:09pm 
I'm going to bump this, in hopes someone can help us out.

We've uninstalled the mod, deleted all files assosciated with it, uninstalled Skyrim, uninstalled Nexus Mod Manager, did a hard deletion of ALL folders related to Skyrim, and reinstalled the game WITHOUT any mods.

The door is still missing. How in the hell can a fresh install still be missing what a mod messed up??

The link to the mod in question is in Grimalkin's first post. :( Any help would be appreciated.
Shufflecat Nov 19, 2014 @ 5:29pm 
This may be a dumb question (sorry if it is), but when you reinstalled the game, did you do it from a local backup, or a fresh redownload?
Last edited by Shufflecat; Nov 19, 2014 @ 5:29pm
wowszer Nov 19, 2014 @ 5:44pm 
Are you using your last save, one that you might have made after you realized things were borked? Have you tried a previous save, played until you got to the door again? Did you try making a save just after loading the last save after deleting the mod, (you will get a warning that content is missing) then loading that save, and play from there?
⛧NecRoBile⛧ Nov 19, 2014 @ 5:55pm 
Pepe: It's not from a local back-up, it's from a fresh download from Steam. :)

wowszer: Well, we've tried a little of both. When she was first running into the problem, she was trying the same saves she's been using. After so much time trying to fix this, we've deleted all her saves to play it safe.

So as of right now, she has a lvl 1 character who's run all the way to Solitute, right inside the Blue Palace. So every time we try something new, we load up, and we're right there to see if the door is still missing.

I did try what you mentioned, make a new save after mod was gone, but it's still the same results. :(
⛧NecRoBile⛧ Nov 19, 2014 @ 7:48pm 
Elsewhere, someone recommended we try defrag'ing and running a system clean-up. Afterwards, verify the game cache through Steam.

We did all of the above, and unfortunately, door still missing. >_o
Factualious Nov 19, 2014 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Necrobile:
We've uninstalled the mod, deleted all files assosciated with it, uninstalled Skyrim, uninstalled Nexus Mod Manager, did a hard deletion of ALL folders related to Skyrim, and reinstalled the game WITHOUT any mods.

The door is still missing. How in the hell can a fresh install still be missing what a mod messed up??
You missed something <shrug>.

Try this guide...

Guide:Make Skyrim Vanilla Again
http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again

...do not skip any steps! One of the big "tricks" to troubleshooting anything is to toss out all your preconceived notions, the things you think you know and all assumptions.

Elsewhere, someone recommended we try defrag'ing and running a system clean-up. Afterwards, verify the game cache through Steam.

We did all of the above, and unfortunately, door still missing. >_o
Doing that shouldn't hurt, but if it is problems with the system (which is what I expect the recommendation was aimed a sussing out) I would expect a mostly random result (not the exact same thing being broken each time).
⛧NecRoBile⛧ Nov 20, 2014 @ 8:26pm 
I appreciate the suggestion, but we did eventually get it figured out. After one last uninstall/reinstall, I decided to try the game in pure vanilla, no mods. I started a new character, coc'd to Solitude, and thankfully I found the door. :D

So, I let Steam download all her mods again, ran BOSS, and tried it again. Door was still there. :D

That evening after she came home from work, she reinstalled her Nexus mods. That's when the door disappeared again. So, we uninstalled/reinstalled again(just to play it safe). After some messing around, I think I figured out what was happening and causing it all to be frustrating.

I believe the initial Pelagius Wing mod she installed clashed with some other mods, and corrupted some files within said mods. That was the initial problem. Now why it took so long to correct is we had a save that was right before character creation(makes it easier to make alts) that was corrupted.

So while we deleted all the mods, we kept the save to make it easier to create characters to check and see if the door is fixed. So theoretically the save file was borked, which in turn re-borked the mods we downloaded again. Then I'd delete all saves, start from absolute beginning, and find things were still borked with the mods.

It wasn't until I deleted all mods, then all saves, reinstalled vanilla, and started from absolute beginning w/o mods that the game started working again. The mrs. has now been slowly reinstalling all her mods, checking every so often to make sure the door remains there.

Oddly enough, she has every single mod she had before installed(except the Pelagius Wing home mod), and everything is back to normal. So I'm not sure why or how that mod messed things up, but we'll be avoiding that mod from now on. XD
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