Will Valve fix their client to work with older AMD and Intel processors

[VonBloomberg]

or I will not be able to play anything until I upgrade my rig?

[VonBloomberg]

I guess I'll try that with an Ubuntu dual boot in the near future.Thanks

[76561193857876471]

Not to piss on your parade or anything, but...

The Steam for Linux client requires a processor that supports SSE2. If your processor does not support SSE2, the Steam client will not run. If you run the Steam client from the command-line, you will see an illegal instruction exception caused by the lack of SSE2 support.

In order to run Steam for Linux you will need to upgrade to a processor that supports SSE2.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7420-QROP-9359

[BonyFor™]

Buy new))))

[VonBloomberg]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από torvuseremita:

Not to piss on your parade or anything, but...

The Steam for Linux client requires a processor that supports SSE2. If your processor does not support SSE2, the Steam client will not run. If you run the Steam client from the command-line, you will see an illegal instruction exception caused by the lack of SSE2 support.

In order to run Steam for Linux you will need to upgrade to a processor that supports SSE2.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7420-QROP-9359

Thanks. In autumn I will be able to upgrade. Until then I'll have to play some other games from my old dvds.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Isnt that just for linux?
From the text?

[ReBoot]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Muppet among Puppets:

Isnt that just for linux?
From the text?

It's true for Windows too.

[Muppet among Puppets]

When was sse 2 introduced to athlon xp processors? Is there a list?

[GenaNark]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από VonBloomberg:

Any news on this?

[Muppet among Puppets]

Upgrading hardware for a game client to play games that work?
Well, not convincing.

[Satoru]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Muppet among Puppets:

Upgrading hardware for a game client to play games that work?
Well, not convincing.

THat's like saying the Steam client should be suck in the dark ages because it has DOS games on it too.

SSE2 is literally 15 years old as it was introduced in 2000. It is OLDER than Windows XP which was released in 2001.

It's not unreasonable for the Steam client to start deprecating CPU features from 15 years ago. Windows 8 already did that as it wont install on a non-SSE2 compliant CPU.

[Start_Running]

Dude seriously.. the RIg I current play on is like 7 years old. It's running win XP, rocking 3 gigs and a core 2duo proc. I have no problems. This is might amention again a rig that was built about 6 years ago. The parts themselves were considered to be midlevel tech when I got them.

If your system is rocking older components than that you really should look into upgrading becaus ethat'd put it at about the level of my old win98 rig. (which still works)

[Muppet among Puppets]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Satoru:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Muppet among Puppets:

Upgrading hardware for a game client to play games that work?
Well, not convincing.

THat's like saying the Steam client should be suck in the dark ages because it has DOS games on it too.

If that was the same,
why allowing steam to run below 6gb ram and below an octacore? When everything below would reach the years mark....

If steam os requires sse2, there is no point to drop all of these on other os.

[The Metric System]

The latest Steam update on Mar 24 still lacks support for non-SSE2 CPUs.
I have sent a support ticket about this.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AFFECTED TO SEND REQUESTS TO VALVE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.

A quick FAQ:

Q: Aren't non-SSE2 CPUs ancient technology?
A: Not that ancient. The last mainstream CPU without SSE2 was the AMD Athlon XP 3200+, released in 2003, and available for purchase new through at least 2005 (when I was building a brand-new, though budget, PC for myself.) A PC can be less than 10 years old but still lack SSE2 support.

Q: Why should Steam support these old CPUs?
A: Because there's no good reason for it not to! Some people still use old PCs that work just fine. Steam is a game LAUNCHER, not a CPU-intensive application. Supporting old CPUs has no serious impact on Steam's performance as a launcher/browser.

Q: What's required for Steam to support old CPUs?
A: A simple option set on the compiler during the build process. Any developer who knows what they're doing can do this in less than 30 seconds. If they're a clueless intern or something, it should take no more than 5 minutes to Google the solution. (Incidentally, if they're using Microsoft's compiler, instructions are here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7t5yh4fd.aspx You're welcome.)

Q: So, what's the conclusion?
A: A few minutes (max) of effort on the part of Valve dev team benefits thousands of paying Valve customers, potentially providing tens or hundreds of thousands of hours of gaming enjoyment. This isn't even a business decision, it's BASIC HUMAN DECENCY.

Q: So, what do we do?
A: COMPLAIN TO VALVE until they fix it!

Q: But, seriously, how long should Valve support such crazy-old hardware?!
A: At the very minimum, until the last non-SSE2-CPU-compatible operating system that Steam runs on stops being supported. In this case, Windows 7 is a non-SSE2-CPU-compatible operating system, and Microsoft's official support of it ends Jan 14, 2020. If you absolutely insist on an end date, that is it: Valve should continue support for non-SSE2 CPUs until January 14, 2020. (Effectively, the same as Microsoft does.)

[Start_Running]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Newb:

The latest Steam update on Mar 24 still lacks support for non-SSE2 CPUs.
I have sent a support ticket about this.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AFFECTED TO SEND REQUESTS TO VALVE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.

A quick FAQ:

Q: Aren't non-SSE2 CPUs ancient technology?
A: Not that ancient. The last mainstream CPU without SSE2 was the AMD Athlon XP 3200+, released in 2003, and available for purchase new through at least 2005 (when I was building a brand-new, though budget, PC for myself.) A PC can be less than 10 years old but still lack SSE2 support.

Uhm... we're talking about an AMD chip... maybe... just maybe it's time to upgrade your system. I mean I thought I had an old system buy you beat me by at least 5 years.

Q: Why should Steam support these old CPUs?
A: Because there's no good reason for it not to! Some people still use old PCs that work just fine. Steam is a game LAUNCHER, not a CPU-intensive application. Supporting old CPUs has no serious impact on Steam's performance as a launcher/browser.

Programming is never as easy as non-programmers think. Chances are if your CPU can't handle the client...you probably won't be able to run most of the games on steam anyway. So you're more or less a non-customer.

Q: What's required for Steam to support old CPUs?
A: A simple option set on the compiler during the build process. Any developer who knows what they're doing can do this in less than 30 seconds. If they're a clueless intern or something, it should take no more than 5 minutes to Google the solution. (Incidentally, if they're using Microsoft's compiler, instructions are here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/7t5yh4fd.aspx You're welcome.)

That is of course assuming that the SSE2 features aren't being alled on for something. Also since steam is cross platform they're likely not using a microsoft compiler. Also anyone who knows programming knows enough that you don't usually fix a problem without causing at least one more problem.

Q: So, what's the conclusion?
A: A few minutes (max) of effort on the part of Valve dev team benefits thousands of paying Valve customers, potentially providing tens or hundreds of thousands of hours of gaming enjoyment. This isn't even a business decision, it's BASIC HUMAN DECENCY.

Steam is under no obligation to support tech that old. That's like me complaining about steam not supporting an MMX chip. I mean it's no different than a game developer not supporting Windows XP. Sure they could probably tweak a Win7 game to work with XP but at that point, it would probably mbe more trouvble than it's worth. Especially when the solution is readily available on te user side. I.e A cheap $100 upgrade.

Q: So, what do we do?
A: COMPLAIN TO VALVE until they fix it!

And thusly this is why those who have actual problems have to wait days or even weeks to get an answer. Because they have to chew through non-issues like these. HEck I'm quite sure Steam pretty much lists this in their software requirements.

[ReBoot]

"Complain until I get my wish"is an euphemism for "being an obnoxious brat"