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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 3:07
ummm..help?
soo.. about an hour ago i received a community moderation message saying content of my profile violates community guidelines and they have removed some profile showcases and profile text. i have put hundreds of hours into designing my profile and it has been that way for years, now they stripped it all off. yes ALL of it.

all my artwork, screenshots, achievements, badges, infoboxes, ALL RESETED to ZERO.

i have already ticketed support but i'd like some answers from actual people as to what is going on. i'm expecting to get that usual bot copypasta saying to read guidelines etc.

someone said theres a new policy that makes it so it removes content that are copyrighted or something? well, how do i prove them that i created everything that was there?
some of it was commissioned from a designer as well and i do have the receipts...

i'm so depressed now looking at my profile i used hundreds of hours and dollars to decorate being just all gone now.
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The link that was sent is just a snapshot of your profile, I'm really surprised you never heard of Wayback Machine/Internet Archive. What the site does is in the name.

But anyway, I was able to view your entire profile and scroll through all of it.

As I said in my other post, you even said on your other thread you've gotten scammed by trying to trade these items because they cannot be traded normally. Is it really so hard to understand then why advertising it on your profile might not be a good idea?

And again, putting prices on your profile is not something I would do either, because that probably is more likely to get you auto-moderated as Support/Mods likely look for certain key words and phrases when reviewing profile reports.
well i've been doing it for years. since like 2015 when the first collector's edition dropped.

yeah excuse me for not knowing these things. all iv'e been thinking is investing in loot boxes that don't come back and maybe some day someone will find value in them. just like csgo for example. i've got no effin clue about that extra nonsense.

if anything i've been doing community service by fueling the needs of those who missed those amazing hats. i mean they've been very happy. heck i confess i had 2 customers today and they're gona come back for more, i even gave them extra sets for being good sports.

All I can say is lesson learned. I did trading for many years and I've seen plenty of people have things on their profile removed/reset for having links and other things like that there. It's a risk that you will always take by putting it on your profile especially if they're outside links or advertise any method that isn't within the Steam trading window itself.

And yes, there's also plenty of people who have that stuff all over their profiles, sometimes for years, and it never gets removed. Again, it's just a risk and likely depends on whatever moderator is reviewing the report at that time. The only way to avoid it is by not doing that and only using your official Steam trade offer link and only trading within the trade window. Nothing more than that.

Anything outside of that is not supported by Steam. Regardless of your own opinion on it. I won't say anything more than that because I am not going to risk a ban myself advocating or opinionating one way or the other.
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:06 
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i can't commence it because we need to be friends for 30 days before i can send anything.
its simply the account limitation that is not allowing us to proceed. its not me saying i can't send it cos i don't want to cos i do want to complete the trade asap.
Then you wait the 30 days befriended before committing the trade immediately, without holding someone else's items.
yeah i will unless they place a reservation. because they can just change their minds after the 30 days and say hey i don't want to do it anymore (therefore wasting my time)
so if they don't place a reservation, then i'll just trade with someone else and tell them that since you didn't commit, i didn't commit either.

you know because i have to keep their skin they wanted for whol 30 days. if they don't trade upfront, that means i can trade to someone else who will.

makes sense right?

like you know in that 30 days i could of had multiple others intersted in the skins too, but i need to keep it for that 1 dude for 30 days? for what? then they change their mind and i lose the possible interest from others too. that ain't fair.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Grimmz; 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:09
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:10 
Don't hold the item. Then the form of trade, while not condoned, is okay, within the DADT limitations.

If you hold their item for those 30 days it's not okay.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Ettanin; 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:11
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:15 
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Don't hold the item. Then the form of trade, while not condoned, is okay.

If you hold their item for those 30 days it's not okay.
i wont hold their item just like i wont hold my item for them either.

reservation means that they place a 10% of their order in skins to commit, show that they're serious about the trade. that means i can keep their skins in case they decide to walk away.

you understand that yes or no?

if they don't reserve, then why should i keep the items for them and not trade with someone else?
because i don't know for certain that they will trade with me or not.
there i'm just wasting my time for 30 days just to hear ''yeah i changed my mind''
thats simply not fair. i am not going to waste my time until you show interest first.
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:15 
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reservation means that they place a 10% of their order in skins to commit, show that they're serious about the trade. that means i can keep their skins in case they decide to walk away.
THAT is STILL an item hold and therefore not okay.

Wait 30 days while 0% of the trade values exchange hands. Anything more than 0% will be seen a scam attempt because it involves abuse of the gift function.
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:17 
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reservation means that they place a 10% of their order in skins to commit, show that they're serious about the trade. that means i can keep their skins in case they decide to walk away.
THAT is STILL an item hold and therefore not okay.
okay with who?

they consent to it. i am not forcing them to it.

before i even begin to talk about the trade i tell them how its going to be and say yes or no, otherwise i'm walking.
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:18 
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THAT is STILL an item hold and therefore not okay.
okay with who?

they consent to it. i am not forcing them to it.

before i even begin to talk about the trade i tell them how its going to be and say yes or no, otherwise i'm walking.
Consent doesn't mean it's not abuse of the gift function.
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:18 
Wait 30 days while 0% of the trade values exchange hands. Anything more than 0% will be seen a scam attempt because it involves abuse of the gift function.

The reservation, if you offer it, must be free of charge without any value hold.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Ettanin; 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:19
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:19 
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okay with who?

they consent to it. i am not forcing them to it.

before i even begin to talk about the trade i tell them how its going to be and say yes or no, otherwise i'm walking.
Consent doesn't mean it's not abuse of the gift function.
again, its allowed.

whats your point?
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:19 
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Consent doesn't mean it's not abuse of the gift function.
again, its allowed.

whats your point?
The reservation, if you offer it, must be free of charge without any value hold. Consent doesn't matter.
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:22 
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again, its allowed.

whats your point?
The reservation, if you offer it, must be free of charge without any value hold.
what about my time?

i have to trust them to still be interested after 30 days?

no, i'm trading with the next person who wants it.
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:22 
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i have to trust them to still be interested after 30 days?
Yes, you have to trust them for 30 days. There is no other way without the risk of lost items on both sides for a longer period of time.
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:23 
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i have to trust them to still be interested after 30 days?
Yes, you have to trust them for 30 days. There is no other way without the risk of lost items on both sides.
no but i lose time and the interest of other traders if i keep waiting for that 1 guy,
what if he decides to walk away and not trade after 30 days. i lose a month for what?
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:24 
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Yes, you have to trust them for 30 days. There is no other way without the risk of lost items on both sides.
no but i lose time and the interest of other traders if i keep waiting for that 1 guy,
what if he decides to walk away and not trade after 30 days. i lose a month for what?
Then it's tough luck. But holding an item, no matter partially or fully, can be seen as a scam attempt.

The form of trade is unsupported in the first place.
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Grimmz 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:30 
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no but i lose time and the interest of other traders if i keep waiting for that 1 guy,
what if he decides to walk away and not trade after 30 days. i lose a month for what?
Then it's tough luck. But holding an item, no matter partially or fully, can be seen as a scam attempt.

The form of trade is unsupported in the first place.
thats dumb. tough luck..?

so i have to just deal with 1 trader every 30 days. i'm never gona get these hats traded.

yeah i know everything can be seen as a scam attempt but its really not a scam until it is.

i know its not recommended but its the only way. if someone wants a skin from me and they are willing to offer another skin for it that i actually want, who am i to say no to that?

i'm a trader, i trade and i enjoy it. i know its a bit of a ''pig in a bag'' for the buyer but it is what it is i don't make the rules, i don't even make the tools, i just play the game. so you wana hate something, hate the game not the player.
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Ettanin 14 grudnia 2023 o 8:31 
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Then it's tough luck. But holding an item, no matter partially or fully, can be seen as a scam attempt.

The form of trade is unsupported in the first place.
thats dumb. tough luck..?

so i have to just deal with 1 trader every 30 days. i'm never gona get these hats traded.

yeah i know everything can be seen as a scam attempt but its really not a scam until it is.

i know its not recommended but its the only way. if someone wants a skin from me and they are willing to offer another skin for it that i actually want, who am i to say no to that?

i'm a trader, i trade and i enjoy it. i know its a bit of a ''pig in a bag'' for the buyer but it is what it is i don't make the rules, i don't even make the tools, i just play the game. so you wana hate something, hate the game not the player.
I am not hating anything. I explain the reasons why things are the way they are. You are trying to weasel out of Steam's limitations on the tradability of specific items. Therefore, you carry the burden.

You violated the rules by advertising an unsupported form of trading and by performing item holds.
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