Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 3:07
ummm..help?
soo.. about an hour ago i received a community moderation message saying content of my profile violates community guidelines and they have removed some profile showcases and profile text. i have put hundreds of hours into designing my profile and it has been that way for years, now they stripped it all off. yes ALL of it.

all my artwork, screenshots, achievements, badges, infoboxes, ALL RESETED to ZERO.

i have already ticketed support but i'd like some answers from actual people as to what is going on. i'm expecting to get that usual bot copypasta saying to read guidelines etc.

someone said theres a new policy that makes it so it removes content that are copyrighted or something? well, how do i prove them that i created everything that was there?
some of it was commissioned from a designer as well and i do have the receipts...

i'm so depressed now looking at my profile i used hundreds of hours and dollars to decorate being just all gone now.
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The link that was sent is just a snapshot of your profile, I'm really surprised you never heard of Wayback Machine/Internet Archive. What the site does is in the name.

But anyway, I was able to view your entire profile and scroll through all of it.

As I said in my other post, you even said on your other thread you've gotten scammed by trying to trade these items because they cannot be traded normally. Is it really so hard to understand then why advertising it on your profile might not be a good idea?

And again, putting prices on your profile is not something I would do either, because that probably is more likely to get you auto-moderated as Support/Mods likely look for certain key words and phrases when reviewing profile reports.
well i've been doing it for years. since like 2015 when the first collector's edition dropped.

yeah excuse me for not knowing these things. all iv'e been thinking is investing in loot boxes that don't come back and maybe some day someone will find value in them. just like csgo for example. i've got no effin clue about that extra nonsense.

if anything i've been doing community service by fueling the needs of those who missed those amazing hats. i mean they've been very happy. heck i confess i had 2 customers today and they're gona come back for more, i even gave them extra sets for being good sports.

All I can say is lesson learned. I did trading for many years and I've seen plenty of people have things on their profile removed/reset for having links and other things like that there. It's a risk that you will always take by putting it on your profile especially if they're outside links or advertise any method that isn't within the Steam trading window itself.

And yes, there's also plenty of people who have that stuff all over their profiles, sometimes for years, and it never gets removed. Again, it's just a risk and likely depends on whatever moderator is reviewing the report at that time. The only way to avoid it is by not doing that and only using your official Steam trade offer link and only trading within the trade window. Nothing more than that.

Anything outside of that is not supported by Steam. Regardless of your own opinion on it. I won't say anything more than that because I am not going to risk a ban myself advocating or opinionating one way or the other.
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Ettanin 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:00 
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/70E6-991B-233B-A37B

In Valve's eyes, you were involved in attempting scams by intentionally delaying the commitment to a trade and risking the trade security of the trading partner.

Be glad it's not a trade ban.
Senast ändrad av Ettanin; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:01
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:01 
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https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/70E6-991B-233B-A37B

In Valve's eyes, you were involved in attempting scams by intentionally delaying the commitment to a trade and risking the trade security of the trading partner.
show me proof or stop parroting. i want an official statement not some help disk hints.
Senast ändrad av Grimmz; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:01
Ettanin 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:01 
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https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/70E6-991B-233B-A37B

In Valve's eyes, you were involved in attempting scams by intentionally delaying the commitment to a trade and risking the trade security of the trading partner.
show me proof or stop parroting.
Read the link and the link you gave. You force the user to use the gifting function without it actually being a gift to commit the trade (with a delay).
Senast ändrad av Ettanin; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:01
Well now that I've seen that, I can't say I'm too surprised about it. Whether or not you agree with it, I can see why Steam support might remove it if it was reported. Yes, it's not technically "RMT" but it does technically go outside of the Steam trade window and you also advertised prices in your bio according to that snapshot. It's not something I would advise putting in your bio.

Regardless of whether or not it's a violation it most likely can easily trip Steam's auto-moderation and flag you as trying to do RMT or trades outside of the Steam window both of which are going to have a high risk of getting you in trouble.

You even admitted in your other thread you've gotten scammed this way, you don't really need to wonder why that might possibly be against the rules to have in your profile. My advise is not to put that back on your profile again.
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:03 
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show me proof or stop parroting.
Read the link and the link you gave. You force the user to use the gifting function without it actually being a gift to commit the trade (with a delay).
i didn't force anyone. i didn't hold a gun to their head.

i said, you want an item from me, i'll let you have it for an item i'm looking for. simple as that, no forcing, only free will.
Yujah 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:03 
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i want an official statement not some help disk hints.
Nobody here can get you one. Just wait for support to get back to you; if you keep on entertaining this you are the one derailing your own thread.
Ettanin 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:04 
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i said, you want an item from me, i'll let you have it for an item i'm looking for. simple as that, no forcing, only free will.
You still force an intentional delay to the commitment of the trade by holding the item, abusing the gifting function, at the risk of the other trading partner. That's a scam attempt.

No matter what you wish to appeal or get around with, this form of trading is forbidden.
Senast ändrad av Ettanin; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:05
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:05 
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i said, you want an item from me, i'll let you have it for an item i'm looking for. simple as that, no forcing, only free will.
You still force an intentional delay to the commitment of the trade, at the risk of the other trading partner. That's a scam attempt.
then how do you perform this trade?

lets hear it.
Ettanin 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:06 
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You still force an intentional delay to the commitment of the trade, at the risk of the other trading partner. That's a scam attempt.
then how do you perform this trade?

lets hear it.
The normal way, item for item, INSTANTANEOUSLY, no holds, no gifts.
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then how do you perform this trade?

lets hear it.
The normal way, item for item, INSTANTANEOUSLY, no holds, no gifts.

Apparently the item in question can't be traded normally. But it doesn't change the fact that it's circumventing the normal trade window which is the only thing Steam officially supports and condones.
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:09 
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then how do you perform this trade?

lets hear it.
The normal way, item for item, INSTANTANEOUSLY, no holds, no gifts.
but you can't get a collector's cache from a normal trade window, its impossible.

you need to be in game itself to send it. and i can't do that first because its a ''gift'' they can just walk away from me and not trade me the value. i have been walked off on before.

btw i went to that link you sent and it was really conveniently cut off the part that says ''only accept skin to skin trades, no outside payments or gift cards.''

anyways these people who want the caches seek me out, i'm not out there going and adding them. i explain them the dangers of gift trading before they even give me anything and they can choose to walk away. you want the thing? then theres a risk, if you're okay with the risk, then we're good to go.
Senast ändrad av Grimmz; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:11
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The normal way, item for item, INSTANTANEOUSLY, no holds, no gifts.
but you can't get a collector's cache from a normal trade window, its impossible.

you need to be in game itself to send it. and i can't do that first because its a ''gift'' they can just walk away from me and not trade me the value. i have been walked off on before.

btw i went to that link you sent and it was really conveniently cut off the part that says ''only accept skin to skin trades, no outside payments or gift cards.''

The link that was sent is just a snapshot of your profile, I'm really surprised you never heard of Wayback Machine/Internet Archive. What the site does is in the name.

But anyway, I was able to view your entire profile and scroll through all of it.

As I said in my other post, you even said on your other thread you've gotten scammed by trying to trade these items because they cannot be traded normally. Is it really so hard to understand then why advertising it on your profile might not be a good idea?

And again, putting prices on your profile is not something I would do either, because that probably is more likely to get you auto-moderated as Support/Mods likely look for certain key words and phrases when reviewing profile reports.
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:15 
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but you can't get a collector's cache from a normal trade window, its impossible.

you need to be in game itself to send it. and i can't do that first because its a ''gift'' they can just walk away from me and not trade me the value. i have been walked off on before.

btw i went to that link you sent and it was really conveniently cut off the part that says ''only accept skin to skin trades, no outside payments or gift cards.''

The link that was sent is just a snapshot of your profile, I'm really surprised you never heard of Wayback Machine/Internet Archive. What the site does is in the name.

But anyway, I was able to view your entire profile and scroll through all of it.

As I said in my other post, you even said on your other thread you've gotten scammed by trying to trade these items because they cannot be traded normally. Is it really so hard to understand then why advertising it on your profile might not be a good idea?

And again, putting prices on your profile is not something I would do either, because that probably is more likely to get you auto-moderated as Support/Mods likely look for certain key words and phrases when reviewing profile reports.
well i've been doing it for years. since like 2015 when the first collector's edition dropped.

yeah excuse me for not knowing these things. all iv'e been thinking is investing in loot boxes that don't come back and maybe some day someone will find value in them. just like csgo for example. i've got no effin clue about that extra nonsense.

if anything i've been doing community service by fueling the needs of those who missed those amazing hats. i mean they've been very happy. heck i confess i had 2 customers today and they're gona come back for more, i even gave them extra sets for being good sports.

i mean cmon this has been going on for 13 something years. surely they would of done something by now and maybe got rid of the entire gift function by now.

but yeah i guess i can see how my bio might of triggered a mod or something.
i'd just imagine they would do a full investigation before hitting you with something like this.
Senast ändrad av Grimmz; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:21
Ettanin 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:15 
Those are lootboxes, they are meant for personal consumption and use. You cannot trade them and you are not supposed to trade them. That you can "gift" them doesn't mean that trading these for skins is condoned or supported.

Knowing that their only source of obtainment is real money, it does definitely involve RMT (buying them to trade them over).
Senast ändrad av Ettanin; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:18
Grimmz 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:22 
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Those are lootboxes, they are meant for personal consumption and use. You cannot trade them and you are not supposed to trade them. That you can "gift" them doesn't mean that trading these for skins is condoned or supported.

Knowing that their only source of obtainment is real money, it does definitely involve RMT (buying them to trade them over).
there is no real money trade man.

i buy a box 2015 for 3 bucks and simply sell it again 10 years later for what 10 bucks?
and all that is in skins within the game, no real money only steam.

its monopoly money, steam funds.
Senast ändrad av Grimmz; 14 dec, 2023 @ 7:23
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