Why do i need to confirmed every transactions on steam?

[ArthaX]

I need to confirmed even 0,01$. Or confirm few items each one by 0.01$ Come on whats wrong.

[ArthaX]

[nullable]

Valve added confirmations. People complained about confirmations under a dollar, so Valve made a dollar the limit. So scammers abused that compromise and people weren't happy that scammers were able to sell things without confirmation and Valve can see what the trends are with scammers. So they reinstated always requiring confirmations and people who think nothing will ever happen to them have opinions and assume theirs are the ones that matter.

[Lilim]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Why do i need to confirmed every transactions on steam?

Because of the scammers.

[ArthaX]

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve added confirmations. People complained about confirmations under a dollar, so Valve made a dollar the limit. So scammers abused that compromise and people weren't happy that scammers were able to sell things without confirmation and Valve can see what the trends are with scammers. So they reinstated always requiring confirmations and people who think nothing will ever happen to them have opinions and assume theirs are the ones that matter.

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

[Mr. Smiles]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve added confirmations. People complained about confirmations under a dollar, so Valve made a dollar the limit. So scammers abused that compromise and people weren't happy that scammers were able to sell things without confirmation and Valve can see what the trends are with scammers. So they reinstated always requiring confirmations and people who think nothing will ever happen to them have opinions and assume theirs are the ones that matter.

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

Seeing as how you are in at least 2 groups linked to scamsites, it's no wonder you got your account hijacked.

That is not a steam guard failure, it's on you.

Users are responsible for account security.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve added confirmations. People complained about confirmations under a dollar, so Valve made a dollar the limit. So scammers abused that compromise and people weren't happy that scammers were able to sell things without confirmation and Valve can see what the trends are with scammers. So they reinstated always requiring confirmations and people who think nothing will ever happen to them have opinions and assume theirs are the ones that matter.

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

Those skin groups are quite telling.

You didn't get hacked. You gave away your account info.

[ArthaX]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

Those skin groups are quite telling.

You didn't get hacked. You gave away your account info.

:nkCool:

So why they didnt needed my steam guard to send items?
If steam guard requires me to sell 0.01$ skin?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Those skin groups are quite telling.

You didn't get hacked. You gave away your account info.

So why they didnt needed my steam guard to send items?
If steam guard requires me to sell 0.01$ skin?

Valve never made any form of public announcement rescinding both the "friends for 1 year, 1 day trade holds" nor the "Relaxed Confirmations" for Market listings under $1.

They just silently added back both some bit after the 2025 Spring Sale ended.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

They finally bring it back? GOOD, less people whining about their items being sold in a flash when they keep handing their accounts to scammers. Now they should put same restrictions on wallet usage with marketplace, and trading do same thing make it mandatory confirmation to even trade at all, this just hurt scammers as a whole, people stop whining about losing items to phishing attacks everyday.

[nullable]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve added confirmations. People complained about confirmations under a dollar, so Valve made a dollar the limit. So scammers abused that compromise and people weren't happy that scammers were able to sell things without confirmation and Valve can see what the trends are with scammers. So they reinstated always requiring confirmations and people who think nothing will ever happen to them have opinions and assume theirs are the ones that matter.

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

The mobile app isn't an invincible shield. It's one layer of security. And users are very good at sabotaging their own security. And even better at preferring an outlandish explanation that absolves them of responsibility.

Nobody l33t h4x0r'ed you. No one would bother when it's a million times easier to get people to hand over credentials through scams and phishing. Nobody ever wants to admit they were tricked or committed an error, but no one can deny human beings are very fallible. And everyone using Steam is a human being...

I mean I've been running the mobile app since it existed, and my account is 21 years old. Magically I haven't been "hacked". So it does seem possible to keep your account secure... your failures may not be the indictment you think it is.

But you're gonna prefer your self-serving stories and theories. So it doesn't really matter what anyone says to you about anything and your questions are disingenuous as a result. You just want other users to buy you shots of concentrated confirmation bias. (that's a joke where confirmation bias has been distilled into an alcoholic drink, just in case your sense of humor got hacked too )

[ArthaX]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Yeah extra thing. I have mobile app and still got hacked not much but still. So? Its not to prevent scams its to prevent their laziness.

The mobile app isn't an invincible shield. It's one layer of security. And users are very good at sabotaging their own security. And even better at preferring an outlandish explanation that absolves them of responsibility.

Nobody l33t h4x0r'ed you. No one would bother when it's a million times easier to get people to hand over credentials through scams and phishing. Nobody ever wants to admit they were tricked or committed an error, but no one can deny human beings are very fallible. And everyone using Steam is a human being...

I mean I've been running the mobile app since it existed, and my account is 21 years old. Magically I haven't been "hacked". So it does seem possible to keep your account secure... your failures may not be the indictment you think it is.

But you're gonna prefer your self-serving stories and theories. So it doesn't really matter what anyone says to you about anything and your questions are disingenuous as a result. You just want other users to buy you shots of concentrated confirmation bias. (that's a joke where confirmation bias has been distilled into an alcoholic drink, just in case your sense of humor got hacked too :KentWinning:)

The point is that i need to confirm every transaction but hacker didnt needed anything. How that happened. Especially when his ip was from different country. Come on you must agree there is no sense of that. There was no reaction from steam support. After hardly somehow i reported it they just made my account little more secure for short term to prevent repeated attacks

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by nullable:

The mobile app isn't an invincible shield. It's one layer of security. And users are very good at sabotaging their own security. And even better at preferring an outlandish explanation that absolves them of responsibility.

Nobody l33t h4x0r'ed you. No one would bother when it's a million times easier to get people to hand over credentials through scams and phishing. Nobody ever wants to admit they were tricked or committed an error, but no one can deny human beings are very fallible. And everyone using Steam is a human being...

I mean I've been running the mobile app since it existed, and my account is 21 years old. Magically I haven't been "hacked". So it does seem possible to keep your account secure... your failures may not be the indictment you think it is.

But you're gonna prefer your self-serving stories and theories. So it doesn't really matter what anyone says to you about anything and your questions are disingenuous as a result. You just want other users to buy you shots of concentrated confirmation bias. (that's a joke where confirmation bias has been distilled into an alcoholic drink, just in case your sense of humor got hacked too :KentWinning:)

The point is that i need to confirm every transaction but hacker didnt needed anything. How that happened. Especially when his ip was from different country. Come on you must agree there is no sense of that. There was no reaction from steam support. After hardly somehow i reported it they just made my account little more secure for short term to prevent repeated attacks

No such thing as a "hacker" in this. You were hijacked, the hijacker had access to your account and you claiming they didn't need to confirm doesn't mean that's true.

Most people accidentally confirm such things without really knowing or realising it.

Not sure what you expect of Steam Support, but there isn't much they can do.

[ArthaX]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by ArthaX:

The point is that i need to confirm every transaction but hacker didnt needed anything. How that happened. Especially when his ip was from different country. Come on you must agree there is no sense of that. There was no reaction from steam support. After hardly somehow i reported it they just made my account little more secure for short term to prevent repeated attacks

No such thing as a "hacker" in this. You were hijacked, the hijacker had access to your account and you claiming they didn't need to confirm doesn't mean that's true.

Most people accidentally confirm such things without really knowing or realising it.

Not sure what you expect of Steam Support, but there isn't much they can do.

so they hijacked my pc and phone at once? and steam havent noticed it?
but when im selling 0.01$ i m getting email?
there was no track from steam that i was hacked they were clue less.
Its not about money its about sense of security if its not working.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by ArthaX:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

No such thing as a "hacker" in this. You were hijacked, the hijacker had access to your account and you claiming they didn't need to confirm doesn't mean that's true.

Most people accidentally confirm such things without really knowing or realising it.

Not sure what you expect of Steam Support, but there isn't much they can do.

so they hijacked my pc and phone at once? and steam havent noticed it?
but when im selling 0.01$ i m getting email?
there was no track from steam that i was hacked they were clue less.
Its not about money its about sense of security if its not working.

No, just your account, no need to hijack the devices. Unless they used malware, then it's the device.

You really should educate yourself on how things like phishing and malware work.

You also seem to forget that it's up to *YOU* to notice, not Steam. As said, account security is your responsibility, just like for my account it's mine.

No amount of security features are going to solve the main issue: USERS.

[ArthaX]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by ArthaX:

so they hijacked my pc and phone at once? and steam havent noticed it?
but when im selling 0.01$ i m getting email?
there was no track from steam that i was hacked they were clue less.
Its not about money its about sense of security if its not working.

No, just your account, no need to hijack the devices. Unless they used malware, then it's the device.

You really should educate yourself on how things like phishing and malware work.

You also seem to forget that it's up to *YOU* to notice, not Steam. As said, account security is your responsibility, just like for my account it's mine.

No amount of security features are going to solve the main issue: USERS.

Bro they sold items without mobile steam token confirmation what are you defending now.
So the 2fa is useless on steam while hacked.