DUALSHOCK/ Play Station controllers

[AC2_freak239]

they need to add support for dualshock controllers so that people dont have to spend money on getting an xbox controller

[Satoru]

HiredMercenary.Doe の投稿を引用：

I would like to understand then why I can install this aparently unsigned driver... thats signed!
64 bit 7 you need drivers signed to install!
Also, I'd like to know why Mbam, Spybot, advast and microsoft secureity excentials has not alerted be about a trojan.

I have no had any compatablity problems and have not noticed any strange things running on my system.

http://betterds3.ciebiera.net/why/

The problem is because its SIGNED. The exe is signed with the same certificate as the driver. That means that the exe launches with the same permissions as the kernel. That means the exe can do ANYTHING IT WANTS with kernel level permissions. Bypassing everything. This exe is an IE control connected to the internet. If someone hijacks the website, which is hard coded, and sends malicous javascript to you, the exe will run it, with system permission, and you WILL NOT know it did it.

You have a program, that is connected to the Internet that launches ANYTHING the website says with kernel level permissions!

If you feel that is 'ok' just so you can use your PS controller go ahead. But you shouldn't.

[Crypto Carlos]

You need to direct your complaints at Sony/individual game publishers then, Valve has nothing to do with what controller API a publisher/developer decides to support. Also, as others in this thread have stated, there are third-party tools like xbox360ce that will enable you to use your controller with most games.

[Crypto Carlos]

Satoru の投稿を引用：

HiredMercenary.Doe の投稿を引用：

I would like to understand then why I can install this aparently unsigned driver... thats signed!
64 bit 7 you need drivers signed to install!
Also, I'd like to know why Mbam, Spybot, advast and microsoft secureity excentials has not alerted be about a trojan.

I have no had any compatablity problems and have not noticed any strange things running on my system.

http://betterds3.ciebiera.net/why/

The problem is because its SIGNED. The exe is signed with the same certificate as the driver. That means that the exe launches with the same permissions as the kernel. That means the exe can do ANYTHING IT WANTS with kernel level permissions. Bypassing everything. This exe is an IE control connected to the internet. If someone hijacks the website, which is hard coded, and sends malicous javascript to you, the exe will run it, with system permission, and you WILL NOT know it did it.

You have a program, that is connected to the Internet that launches ANYTHING the website says with kernel level permissions!

If you feel that is 'ok' just so you can use your PS controller go ahead. But you shouldn't.

Couldn't have said it better myself

[Raf]

i think your right

[AC2_freak239]

xbox controllers are probably supported by ever game because xbox is made by microsoft which also makes almost ever computer

[gump]

AC2_freak239 の投稿を引用：

xbox controllers are probably supported by ever game because xbox is made by microsoft which also makes almost ever computer

Its because its the most common gamepad used, not because its made by microsoft

[Crypto Carlos]

AC2_freak239 の投稿を引用：

xbox controllers are probably supported by ever game because xbox is made by microsoft which also makes almost ever computer

Microsoft has never made their own PCs, what they do produce is the most popular operating system for PCs, the PCs themselves are made by Dell, HP, IBM, ASUS and other vendors.

[Satoru]

AC2_freak239 の投稿を引用：

xbox controllers are probably supported by ever game because xbox is made by microsoft which also makes almost ever computer

The reason is that for DX10 MS deprecated DirectInput in favor of Xinput. Despite the fact that Xinput was VASTLY inferior to DirectInput with limitations that made no sense. Only recently has Xinput even caught up to the capabilities that DirectInput had.

Since the Xbox was based on DX10, and effectively Xinput based, games migrated to Xinput.