Steam Networking - Increased ping due to questionable routing

[RUNS UP AND WHACKS YOU]

Hi! I'm having a few issues with Steam Networking.

For context, I live on the western side of Australia, and I'm trying to play TF2 on Singapore servers. Singapore is quite close to where I live and has a submarine cable creating a direct connection between the two, so usually I get pretty good ping. Between 40 and 50 ping is what I would be expecting.

The Steam networking feature for some reason routes me through Sydney to make a connection. This takes my direct route and turns it into what I assume is a back and forth from Perth to Sydney, then back to Perth and then through to Singapore. The end result is my ping being triple of what I'm used to!

I can't figure out a way to disable Steam networking on my end, has anyone else run into a similar issue? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

[RUNS UP AND WHACKS YOU]

I was under the impression that Team Fortress 2 and other Valve titles were using Steam's VPN now (https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/steamdatagramrelay) which rules out my ISP as the issue. I have asked my ISP about this in the past with success. I have not had this problem in previous months, it has only cropped up over the past week or so.

[RUNS UP AND WHACKS YOU]

After doing some more reading I figured out that you can disable Steam Networking through Settings > In Game (as per this wiki article.) However, Steam seems to force Steam Networking on when you are playing official Casual mode in TF2. I haven't found a way to disable this, so for the moment I guess I am stuck playing on Sydney servers. The saving grace is that I can disable Steam Networking for community servers which will fall back to my ISP routing and drop me back down to 40 or so ping. Would love to see this particular routing pitfall addressed by Valve at some point in the future <3

[kamild_【=◈︿◈=】]

I guess no one found a way to disable Steam Networking in Casual Mode? I'm also suspecting the route it's choosing for me isn't optimal.

[ungodlyaura]

Hey WA as well, has anyone found a fix for this? I'm getting a lot of ping to a friend in the same city. Steam networking is forcing connection regardless of IP sharing being set to friends. It seems only one person says their IP is shared and other is still forced into Steam Networking causing their ping to be bad.

[kamild_【=◈︿◈=】]

Originally posted by Iceira:

Originally posted by kamild_【=◈︿◈=】:

I guess no one found a way to disable Steam Networking in Casual Mode? I'm also suspecting the route it's choosing for me isn't optimal.

I dont think you understand this post, you are from poland and AUS has water around them, things will always be diffrent from such regione same as greenland and other water area, aka Sea cable.

there is no way in hell you can compare cost/price with water zone.

( all traffic and server is best seen as have it in own zone ) to reduce cost.

I must have missed the notification for this reply, but I'm reading this now and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about lmao

[kamild_【=◈︿◈=】]

Originally posted by Iceira:

Originally posted by kamild_【=◈︿◈=】:

I must have missed the notification for this reply, but I'm reading this now and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about lmao

Thats beecause you did not read he is a AUS thats Australia, that is not same as rest of the world.

Use a globe.

sea cable traffic is diffrent, very costly.

I never even referred to where OP is, to their "cost/price with water zone", and I really don't care about either of that. All I care is how to bypass Steam Networking, and that's what I asked about.

I check the Steam Networking status in the Steam overlay and I often see it admitting the ping has increased instead of decreasing.

[kamild_【=◈︿◈=】]

Originally posted by Iceira:

Originally posted by kamild_【=◈︿◈=】:

I never even referred to where OP is, to their "cost/price with water zone", and I really don't care about either of that. All I care is how to bypass Steam Networking, and that's what I asked about.

I check the Steam Networking status in the Steam overlay and I often see it admitting the ping has increased instead of decreasing.

Make own post then, stop hijacking other ppl post.

They want to disable Steam Networking, I want to disable Steam Networking. That's not hijacking, that's avoiding duplicating topics by asking something that's already been asked.
I don't know what your problem is, get off my back.

[kamild_【=◈︿◈=】]

Originally posted by Iceira:

Originally posted by kamild_【=◈︿◈=】:

They want to disable Steam Networking, I want to disable Steam Networking. That's not hijacking, that's avoiding duplicating topics by asking something that's already been asked.
I don't know what your problem is, get off my back.

Read steam forum rules, before you make so much trouble for yourself.

If you want to quote rules, Ctrl+F for "derailing a discussion or topic", which is what you started doing. And in order to comply with the Steam forum rules, I'll stop responding to you.

[RUNS UP AND WHACKS YOU]

Originally posted by kamild_【=◈︿◈=】:

Originally posted by Iceira:

Make own post then, stop hijacking other ppl post.

They want to disable Steam Networking, I want to disable Steam Networking. That's not hijacking, that's avoiding duplicating topics by asking something that's already been asked.
I don't know what your problem is, get off my back.

Don't waste your breath. Mute and ignore.

I still haven't found a way to disable Steam networking, but I have found other scenarios and games that this applies to. I have tried to play games with people in the same city, but I find that Steam networking will route me through Sydney and back inexplicably (nothing to do with undersea cables, though PER to SYD uses an undersea cable anyway.)

These games range from first party Valve titles (TF2, CS:GO, even Deadlock) to third party games like DRG.

The discussion was always about disabling Steam networking, and way less about the actual networking at hand. Just for your info, I work at an ISP.

[Iceira]

Did you not say you play at "I'm trying to play TF2 on Singapore servers. Singapore.

So now you lie and have no clue what you once said.


ps.
ASK own ISP maybe they can tell yuo what is wrong here and if they can do anything about it.

Delete all past comment because of OP reply with what game server she play at.
rest is a ISP issue in how they route it , not even steam is in controll of anything here.
ISP area in how local traffic is.