Steam vs Console?

[Sky]

Steam > Console for days. Does anyone think next gen consoles will effect PC gaming hugely? Thoughts.

[Space Coward]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Shield isn't going anywhere. You have to actually stream it FROM A COMPUTER... yeah, nope. That's a gimmick that won't last.

that is actuallly 100% false. Its streaming from the cloud directly to your shield then to your TV. You CAN stream from your PC but this new one has a very good cloud based streaming service which is streaming current generation AAA games. It came out yesterday

Well, I thought it sounded irrationally stupid. Guess that's why... it was!

In that case, isn't that what OnLive did?

[Tux]

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

引用自 Tux：

that is actuallly 100% false. Its streaming from the cloud directly to your shield then to your TV. You CAN stream from your PC but this new one has a very good cloud based streaming service which is streaming current generation AAA games. It came out yesterday

Well, I thought it sounded irrationally stupid. Guess that's why... it was!

In that case, isn't that what OnLive did?

I doubt it but I dont know OnLive. This just came out yesterday, announced at GDC. I was someone who felt that streaming a game from the cloud was not very viable but they were showing current AAA titles at 60 fps and good graphics. Impact wise its much more radical than the 'shield' they came out with last year

[Space Coward]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Well, I thought it sounded irrationally stupid. Guess that's why... it was!

In that case, isn't that what OnLive did?

I doubt it but I dont know OnLive. This just came out yesterday, announced at GDC. I was someone who felt that streaming a game from the cloud was not very viable but they were showing current AAA titles at 60 fps and good graphics. Impact wise its much more radical than the 'shield' they came out with last year

Onlive is this online service where you pretty much stream AAA games you buy from their service. The difference is, it's to your computer. I remember playing Arkham Asylum through it years ago. The only problem I had with it was the way people could join any game to spectate, and you wouldn't even know they were there until you fell to your death and heard a bunch of people laughing at you through their microphones.

If Shield works properly, I could see a lot of appeal to people with low-end PCs. If it's only $300, that would pretty much mean modern gaming and maxxing out your games without the GTX 980.

[Tux]

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

引用自 Tux：

I doubt it but I dont know OnLive. This just came out yesterday, announced at GDC. I was someone who felt that streaming a game from the cloud was not very viable but they were showing current AAA titles at 60 fps and good graphics. Impact wise its much more radical than the 'shield' they came out with last year

Onlive is this online service where you pretty much stream AAA games you buy from their service. The difference is, it's to your computer. I remember playing Arkham Asylum through it years ago. The only problem I had with it was the way people could join any game to spectate, and you wouldn't even know they were there until you fell to your death and heard a bunch of people laughing at you through their microphones.

If Shield works properly, I could see a lot of appeal to people with low-end PCs. If it's only $300, that would pretty much mean modern gaming and maxxing out your games without the GTX 980.

its $200 :)

thing is, if what I saw watching the presentation is accurate I do think it will change gaming for everyone. Speaking for myself however I have very particular tastes in games AND I have been using a mouse and keyboard for more than 30 years so I would miss that.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/gdc-2015-hands-on-with-nvidias-shield-console

[Space Coward]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Onlive is this online service where you pretty much stream AAA games you buy from their service. The difference is, it's to your computer. I remember playing Arkham Asylum through it years ago. The only problem I had with it was the way people could join any game to spectate, and you wouldn't even know they were there until you fell to your death and heard a bunch of people laughing at you through their microphones.

If Shield works properly, I could see a lot of appeal to people with low-end PCs. If it's only $300, that would pretty much mean modern gaming and maxxing out your games without the GTX 980.

its $200 :)

thing is, if what I saw watching the presentation is accurate I do think it will change gaming for everyone. Speaking for myself however I have very particular tastes in games AND I have been using a mouse and keyboard for more than 30 years so I would miss that.

It can't replace PC gaming no matter how far it goes. It can't now that people have forked out all this money in the name of 970s, 980s, and 4k gaming. They'll stick to their 2160p60/1440p144 PCs.

[Tux]

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

引用自 Tux：

its $200 :)

thing is, if what I saw watching the presentation is accurate I do think it will change gaming for everyone. Speaking for myself however I have very particular tastes in games AND I have been using a mouse and keyboard for more than 30 years so I would miss that.

It can't replace PC gaming no matter how far it goes. It can't now that people have forked out all this money in the name of 970s, 980s, and 4k gaming. They'll stick to their 2160p60/1440p144 PCs.

I predict PC gaming will be around longer than consoles given this news.

I say that because PC gamers are serious business, console seems to be a bit more casual. I think a consoler player might be more likely to try this streaming thing than a PC gamer is. I know although I am excited for the tech I doubt I will actually buy one. Steam Machine however i might but only because I want a dedicated VR room :)

[993]

sure

[Space Coward]

One of the big advantages to PC gaming, though, is that your better equipment CAN help with work. The SSD you use for fast loading times, the RAM for multitasking... pretty much any kind of upgrade you make for your PC will have an effect on what else you do with it.

That's one of the problems with a dedicated gaming device... you don't get any of that.

[Tux]

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

One of the big advantages to PC gaming, though, is that your better equipment CAN help with work. The SSD you use for fast loading times, the RAM for multitasking... pretty much any kind of upgrade you make for your PC will have an effect on what else you do with it.

That's one of the problems with a dedicated gaming device... you don't get any of that.

cheers to that! agree 100%.

I now work from home and when I tell people how much I invest in my work station they go nuts and say 'just for work?'....nope, work is a side effect reason :)

When I see people working on a laptop using the thumb pad I just want to slap them.

[Space Coward]

引用自 Tux：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

One of the big advantages to PC gaming, though, is that your better equipment CAN help with work. The SSD you use for fast loading times, the RAM for multitasking... pretty much any kind of upgrade you make for your PC will have an effect on what else you do with it.

That's one of the problems with a dedicated gaming device... you don't get any of that.

cheers to that! agree 100%.

I now work from home and when I tell people how much I invest in my work station they go nuts and say 'just for work?'....nope, work is a side effect reason :)

When I see people working on a laptop using the thumb pad I just want to slap them.

Yeah, I learned not to trust in laptops a long time ago. My older brother was playing Payday 2 when he accidentally touched the trackpad. It counted as a click and he shot the hostage, and as everyone freaked out at him for shooting a hostage he was just trying to explain himself like "IT WAS THE TRACKPAD, I SWEAR IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!"

It was that day I learned that trackpads are stupid. If you can't use a mousepad with your computer where you're going, use your knee. If you don't have a knee, use your face. If you break your nose trying to click down, well, you tried.

[Vapid]

steam IS better

[Player One]

While its more expensive to get then a console - It does more. I like the fact that I can jump from gaming to work related activities on the same machine.

I guess thats what makes it valid for me - even if I bought a console, I would still need a high end Pc for work.

[lak1]

steam

[MainframeMouse]

My son is using a £200 AMD laptop that is happily playing any game he wants.

[silver10241980]

PC FTW