Can groups that were made to raffle continue to raffle..? If not, can you give the group owners who made those groups specifically for raffling able to change the name to something else?

[RubbermanBall TTV]

I am extremely confused, I worked hard to get my group to 21,000 members and it's specifically a raffle group, now I am seeing rules changed.. Does that apply to the groups we've made? Are we no longer allowed to provide raffles?

[RubbermanBall TTV]

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Again, it isn't that simple unless I spammed and reposted it all the time which is ALSO against the not-so-fair rules.

Uhmn.. just post it on the group page.. Maybe create an event that'll pop up a notifactioon to the members.

Or you can just give up and curl into a ball. Geez stretch your mind a little and look for solutions. No one said it was going to be easy, just that it was doable

I've already stretched my mind, and you wouldn't understand unril you owned a large group yourself and saw the damage these rules did, they're just forcing the owners into a corner.

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Uhmn.. just post it on the group page.. Maybe create an event that'll pop up a notifactioon to the members.

Or you can just give up and curl into a ball. Geez stretch your mind a little and look for solutions. No one said it was going to be easy, just that it was doable

I've already stretched my mind, and you wouldn't understand unril you owned a large group yourself and saw the damage these rules did, they're just forcing the owners into a corner.

The rules were there before and you aren't being forced into a corner. You've already been given a solution, heck solutions(s) but you apparently are looking for a 1-button solution. Not gonna happen so either knuckle down and start doing something. Or .. give up.

Make your choice and get to action rather than complaining.

You can Create a new group and notify the old group members via the groups forums, messages or create a daily event notifier that pops up a :

"Hey we're migrating to <new group name here> Come join us and all your old friends."

Overtime those that want to or log in regularly will migrate over though you will lose quite a few since well no raffles.

[ReBoot]

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Uhmn.. just post it on the group page.. Maybe create an event that'll pop up a notifactioon to the members.

Or you can just give up and curl into a ball. Geez stretch your mind a little and look for solutions. No one said it was going to be easy, just that it was doable

I've already stretched my mind, and you wouldn't understand unril you owned a large group yourself and saw the damage these rules did, they're just forcing the owners into a corner.

Is your group all about raffles or is there something else to it too?

[RubbermanBall TTV]

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I've already stretched my mind, and you wouldn't understand unril you owned a large group yourself and saw the damage these rules did, they're just forcing the owners into a corner.

The rules were there before and you aren't being forced into a corner. You've already been given a solution, heck solutions(s) but you apparently are looking for a 1-button solution. Not gonna happen so either knuckle down and start doing something. Or .. give up.

Make your choice and get to action rather than complaining.

You can Create a new group and notify the old group members via the groups forums, messages or create a daily event notifier that pops up a :

"Hey we're migrating to <new group name here> Come join us and all your old friends."

Overtime those that want to or log in regularly will migrate over though you will lose quite a few since well no raffles.

The rule for raffling had not been in place during creation of the group, nor was it there for almost a year after creation. Years after for others, I'm wanting a solution that actually works, not some B.S. lose 3/5 of your members kinda "solution"

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The rule for raffling had not been in place during creation of the group, nor was it there for almost a year after creation. Years after for others, I'm wanting a solution that actually works, not some B.S. lose 3/5 of your members kinda "solution"

Well then this thread might as well be closed then. You have been given solution. You don't like them. Apparently the only solutions you're interested in are : Make evertything back the way it was or 'Make an exception for my group.

Neither are going to happen so this thread is pointless for discussion purposes.

If you lose 3/5 of your members then obviously the lack of raffles makes your group meaningless to them. Such is life. Are you surprised that your members would didtch once they stopped getting free stuff? if you are you've lived a very sheltered life.

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The rule for raffling had not been in place during creation of the group, nor was it there for almost a year after creation. Years after for others, I'm wanting a solution that actually works, not some B.S. lose 3/5 of your members kinda "solution"

Well then this thread might as well be closed then. You have been given solution. You don't like them. Apparently the only solutions you're interested in are : Make evertything back the way it was or 'Make an exception for my group.

Neither are going to happen so this thread is pointless for discussion purposes.

If you lose 3/5 of your members then obviously the lack of raffles makes your group meaningless to them. Such is life. Are you surprised that your members would didtch once they stopped getting free stuff? if you are you've lived a very sheltered life.

You type like someone who has brains, but you don't know the meaning of raffles and giveaways.

Giveaways are allowed, now, raffles are not. People would still get their "free stuff" and my ideal solution would be something that didn't involve destroying something that took a while to built, just like in the real world if the government destroyed something they'd have to go about fixing it and making it right again. It's the oh so mighty moderator jobs to make things right, not screw over the creations.

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You type like someone who has brains, but you don't know the meaning of raffles and giveaways.

Giveaways are allowed, now, raffles are not. People would still get their "free stuff" and my ideal solution would be something that didn't involve destroying something that took a while to built, just like in the real world if the government destroyed something they'd have to go about fixing it and making it right again. It's the oh so mighty moderator jobs to make things right, not screw over the creations.

*Yawn* The solutions were given. Kicking and screaming won't get you a better solution I'm afraid. You can go with those solutions and start something up again or you can do nothing ie kick and scream. Either way. those are your options.

[RubbermanBall TTV]

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You type like someone who has brains, but you don't know the meaning of raffles and giveaways.

Giveaways are allowed, now, raffles are not. People would still get their "free stuff" and my ideal solution would be something that didn't involve destroying something that took a while to built, just like in the real world if the government destroyed something they'd have to go about fixing it and making it right again. It's the oh so mighty moderator jobs to make things right, not screw over the creations.

*Yawn* The solutions were given. Kicking and screaming won't get you a better solution I'm afraid. You can go with those solutions and start something up again or you can do nothing ie kick and scream. Either way. those are your options.

"*yawn*" ? Those options aren't options, they're once again NOT an actual solution. They are a half witted substitution, I think I'll just go about seeing who wants to petition this rule and see where that gets me.

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*Yawn* The solutions were given. Kicking and screaming won't get you a better solution I'm afraid. You can go with those solutions and start something up again or you can do nothing ie kick and scream. Either way. those are your options.

"*yawn*" ? Those options aren't options, they're once again NOT an actual solution. They are a half witted substitution, I think I'll just go about seeing who wants to petition this rule and see where that gets me.

So you won't go forward thusly your group will fade into obscurity or be shut down by valve if they get wind of any rule breaking. . You've made the choice. thusly there is no point in further discussion.

[RubbermanBall TTV]

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"*yawn*" ? Those options aren't options, they're once again NOT an actual solution. They are a half witted substitution, I think I'll just go about seeing who wants to petition this rule and see where that gets me.

So you won't go forward thusly your group will fade into obscurity or be shut down by valve if they get wind of any rule breaking. . You've made the choice. thusly there is no point in further discussion.

Good job stating the obvious, you seem to have a knack for that. As for rule breaking, I don't break rules.