How do i stop steam from "waiting" to download?

[ranakor]

I have:
- Can download while playing enabled
- Throttling disabled
- Limit to certain times disabled

Yet often i check steam and see games waiting and when i go to download i see the download is "planned for hour::minute". Why is that, how can i tell steam "never plan downloads, just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ download it if you found it"?

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Change ISP is the only way.

[ranakor]

ISPs have nothing to do with it, it's not my isp but steam that is scheduling the downloads . . . Also note i have perfectly stable 500mbit fiber so i don't think the problem is there :)

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Your ISP is throttling the connection to the Steam servers.

So Steam falls back to scheduled mode temporarily.

You should be getting 50MB/sec from them, but you're not.

[FFL2and3rocks]

Right click the game in your library -> Properties -> Updates tab -> Change the first dropdown to High Priority

[ranakor]

Originally posted by TabrisDarkPeace:

Your ISP is throttling the connection to the Steam servers.

So Steam falls back to scheduled mode temporarily.

You should be getting 50MB/sec from them, but you're not.

No, you're wrongly assuming that, i'm very much getting it all the time including from steam when it downloads, it's just that instead of downloading steam doesn't download at all and puts updates in a scheduled time for no reasons, it doesn't "try to download, fail and schedule for later", it just doesn't try at all and immediately schedule it for later when there is an update. This has nothing to do with my isp period.

[ranakor]

Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks:

Right click the game in your library -> Properties -> Updates tab -> Change the first dropdown to High Priority

It's not a priority issue, happens when there is a single game to download, i go in the download list, nothing in there except 1 game planned to start in X hours, happens all the time, i immediately push it up and it instantly downloads. I certainly don't want to manage this on a per game basis (> 200 of them) but i doubt it would help (i'm assuming priority prioritize download order between games, this is not the issue here, the issue is nothing is downloading "at all" and steam just schedules things for later)

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Your ISP doesn't have a Tier 2 or better connection to the Steam content servers...

[ranakor]

Originally posted by TabrisDarkPeace:

Your ISP doesn't have a Tier 2 or better connection to the Steam content servers...

Seriously, you are wrong, you're assuming (for some weird reason) that the issue is on my isp's side, it's not, i download FROM STEAM at capped connection speed, if a game is scheduled for later, and i force it, it DOES download immediately at FULL SPEED. I'm connected to steam 2 countries away and i still have crazy connection, i just did a speed test toward amsterdam and it seems my isp even finally switched to gigabit :

THE ISSUE IS NOT WITH MY ISP PERIOD, please do not answer if you do not have the knowledge required to answer, my question isn't about slow downloads, it's about why steam schedules for later (and it's STEAM scheduling it, by itself, in it's own interface). My isp is by all means a tier 1 so i don't see what "having a tier 2 conection", especially "to steam" since there's no to steam and steam has crazy peering everywhere with a massive worldwide deployment would have to do with this.

There generated right now : https://www.dropbox.com/s/rr42gd2gajq08ro/RanakorAmsterdam.PNG?dl=0


So to cut the discution and finally try to fix my issue:
- This happens even with tiny (few mb) updates
- My isp is actually delivering gigabit download and 1/4 gigabit upload to right in the city where my selected download speed is (which also happens to be the city hosting one of the largest internet exchanges in europe if memory serves)
- It's not fast speed in my isp's network and slow everywhere, this is from orange (a french isp) and the download speed is from 2 COUNTRIES away
- When i download from steam i download at capped speed, any time of day, i've downloaded 50GB games (Final fantasy) at constant speed that way.
- Steam client is the only one in charge of deciding when to download, your isp has no control over the steam client, if it throttled it would be slow, not scheduled for later
- It's not throttled to begin with because if i start the download manually when it's "scheduled for another time" it does immediately download at full speed.
- It never happens when installing a game for example, only for updates which somehow steam decides to schedule, when i buy a game even if it's 50GB it downloads immediately, when for example path of exiles pushes a tiny update (like 3mb), i always find it waiting to download.

It's not my isp, period, my question is where do i change what setting to tell steam "i don't care what you think, when something is pending download, download now instead" and if it's not possible if anyone knows why steam is behaving that way.

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

The default Steam behaviour is download immediate.

If it falls back to scheduled then it is your ISP, and that is a cold hard fact you do not want to accept.

I never said initiating the download manually wouldn't work did I?

[ranakor]

Originally posted by TabrisDarkPeace:

The default Steam behaviour is download immediate.

If it falls back to scheduled then it is your ISP, and that is a cold hard fact you do not want to accept.

I never said initiating the download manually wouldn't work did I?

It's not a "cold hard fact" it's your very wrong assumption, hell there isn't even a way the isp COULD do this if they WANTED to.

The only one deciding when to start is steam, no one else, it's as basic as it gets, your isp has as little control over that as your wife has on when you should fart, she may whine when you do, but she can't stop it, same here (except if they stoped it i would get an error, not a reschedule)

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

The ISPs see the packet coming in on a certain port, and block it.
If they see a certain sequence they allow it.

It lets them reduce the load on their backhaul.

Change ISPs to a Tier 1 ISP with a direct connection to the Steam Content Delivery Network and you'll see EXACTLY what I mean.

I have cousins with exactly the same problem you are describing.


Have you tried -tcp mode?

[Chinicornia ♡]

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[ranakor]

Originally posted by TabrisDarkPeace:

The ISPs see the packet coming in on a certain port, and block it.
If they see a certain sequence they allow it.

It lets them reduce the load on their backhaul.

Change ISPs to a Tier 1 ISP with a direct connection to the Steam Content Delivery Network and you'll see EXACTLY what I mean.

I have cousins with exactly the same problem you are describing.


Have you tried -tcp mode?

No, if a packet is blocked the download fails, and it would be the same sequence sent if i downloaded manually anyway which always works, it in no case explains why steam would "reschedule it".

And as i already said i AM on a tier 1 isp . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#List_of_tier_1_networks
And i'm not talking about a regional one but an actual one of the 15 actual global T1 networks

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Orange is not a Tier 1 ISP, they're a mobile cellular phone company.

I also know for a fact that they do not have a Tier1/Tier2 link to the Steam CDNs.

[ranakor]

Originally posted by TabrisDarkPeace:

Orange is not a Tier 1 ISP, they're a mobile cellular phone company.

No, orange is a tier 1 isp, they may do mostly mobile in the world but orange is a rebranding of france telecom which used to be a public telephone company for france and has a massive major network (notably one of the few carriers who can deploy undersea cables)
Look at their wholly owned subsidiary : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Marine
Orange is a T1 isp by any and all definitions of what a T1 isp is and very few ISP can say that.