Movies on Steam. Why???

[VG_Elder]

Starting to see more and more movies showing up on Steam and many people, like me, are confused why Steam is getting into the movie business. Steam is a gaming service and they should not be posting movies here. They should start a whole new service and call it Steam Movies or something like that. I realize they are trying to reach out to indie movie developers in the same way the reach out to indie game developers but it just makes it confusing when you see movies start popping up on a gaming site. How seriously are people going to take these movies anyway? I love movies so I go to Netflix, Hulu, etc... I don't go looking for movies on Steam. It would be a great idea to open a new movie site and pair it with movies making software and development tools and I would gladly sign up for that but please pull this stuff off the gaming store. To me it just trashes up the place.

[VG_Elder]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Escrito originalmente por GuRu Asaki:

Well it's just how I feel, I mean would you really not care if Net Flix started hosting Games on it?

I don't know anyone one who'd mind actually.

What next? Video Programs hosting Games...

Cat's and dogs living together, Mass hysteria!

Pretty soon Movies Games & Music will be everywhere... Sometimes it's best for something to stay specifically just one thing... Not everything has to be everywhere...

You know I know you're trying to argue against it but what you've outlined is a proven successful business model. Ask Amazon and Apple..

Specialization is nice, from a production standpoint but from a distribution standpoint... you want to carry something for everyone.

Again, I don't have a problem with movies on Steam, Consoles are already doing it, but if it was me, there wouldn't be movies there...

And that's why you don't run a multi-million dollar company.

Actually, I would love a Video Channel on STEAM, by Videos I mean a place where we could host our Game Play Recordings when we play Games... Kinda like how PS4 & X-Box 1 is connected to YouTube, & when you record Gameplay it goes straight to YouTube... What if STEAM had something simular to that, but their own idea...

Steam MAchine might. the PC version, a little tricker since again, variable hardware.

I want to know how many people are actually buying Steam Machines (if they are out yet?). Everyone is yamering about Steam Machines while forgetting Steam's core customer base is PC gamers. You actually think there will be more Steam Machines users than PC users. I highly doubt it. Everyone thinks its such a great idea to change everything into a console style sales system for a small segment of the customer base.

Steam will never outsell X-Box or Sony (many have tried and failed). Lets face it if your a console gamers your on X-Box or Playstation already. Most Steam machines capable of running PC based games cost twice as much as an X-Box or Playstation. I just can't see Steam Machines becoming a major force on Steam and turning Steam upside down for that does not make much sense.

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por VG_Elder:

I want to know how many people are actually buying Steam Machines (if they are out yet?). Everyone is yamering about Steam Machines while forgetting Steam's core customer base is PC gamers. You actually think there will be more Steam Machines users than PC users. I highly doubt it. Everyone thinks its such a great idea to change everything into a console style sales system for a small segment of the customer base.

And this has what to do with movies. Are you saying PC USers don't watch movies.... Netflix , Youtube and Hulu have mountains of data to the contrary.

Steam will never outsell X-Box or Sony (many have tried and failed).

They said that about Nintendo once upon a time... and now they're No. 3 :p

Lets face it if your a console gamers your on X-Box or Playstation already. Most Steam machines capable of running PC based games cost twice as much as an X-Box or Playstation. I just can't see Steam Machines becoming a major force on Steam and turning Steam upside down for that does not make much sense.

Since when does adding an extra item to a navigation menu count as turning upside down?

[VG_Elder]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Escrito originalmente por VG_Elder:

I want to know how many people are actually buying Steam Machines (if they are out yet?). Everyone is yamering about Steam Machines while forgetting Steam's core customer base is PC gamers. You actually think there will be more Steam Machines users than PC users. I highly doubt it. Everyone thinks its such a great idea to change everything into a console style sales system for a small segment of the customer base.

And this has what to do with movies. Are you saying PC USers don't watch movies.... Netflix , Youtube and Hulu have mountains of data to the contrary.

Steam will never outsell X-Box or Sony (many have tried and failed).

They said that about Nintendo once upon a time... and now they're No. 3 :p

Lets face it if your a console gamers your on X-Box or Playstation already. Most Steam machines capable of running PC based games cost twice as much as an X-Box or Playstation. I just can't see Steam Machines becoming a major force on Steam and turning Steam upside down for that does not make much sense.

Since when does adding an extra item to a navigation menu count as turning upside down?

One of the basic reasons everyone gives for providing movies is the Steam Machine. Amazon has the Kindle (and sells thousands of those) and smart apps. Netflix is on every smart device out there. Steam only has 2 platforms: PC and Steam Machine. So you think it makes sense to sell movies bases on a limited platform like that?

Movie Development on the other hand makes more sense. Their PC based community would be into movie software and development communities. Steam needs to focus on the development of movies rather than just being another movie service if they want this to go anywhere.

[GuRu Asaki]

Lets be frank? I don't run a multi-million dollar Company because I choose to, not because I can't...

I'm already designing my own Games, & am looking for improve that & get better at it soon...

Mind you i'm designing different style Games then what all the other Developers are designing, so I hope that people like where i'm going with my Games & not just toss them aside...

P. S.: I have no intention of making my own Console, i'd rather port my Games to Consoles already out Starting with PC, & later to X-Box & Playstation...

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por VG_Elder:

One of the basic reasons everyone gives for providing movies is the Steam Machine. Amazon has the Kindle (and sells thousands of those) and smart apps. Netflix is on every smart device out there. Steam only has 2 platforms: PC and Steam Machine. So you think it makes sense to sell movies bases on a limited platform like that?

And I already said... between the two of them that's a lot of potential users. Technically speaking. Anything you could log into steam from can be your movie player.

Movie Development on the other hand makes more sense. Their PC based community would be into movie software and development communities. Steam needs to focus on the development of movies rather than just being another movie service if they want this to go anywhere.

They've been selling the software for movie development and music recording and movie recording for a while now


So the question returns. Why not? It's basically like asking . Why sell glazed donuts alongside your regular donuts? Why Sell apples and Oranges? Why sell Books and Pc parts?

[ravyn]

Seeing it as a side thing doesn't bother me, and if you don't watch the movies it shouldn't bother you either.

[Beyonder_X]

Steam is trying to expand and its doing with adding different products/features which this time happen to be movies. I don't see anything wrong with it. Hopefully it will work out for the better in the future.

[GuRu Asaki]

Escrito originalmente por Blardow:

Seeing it as a side thing doesn't bother me, and if you don't watch the movies it shouldn't bother you either.

Actually, if you think about it, it might bother some people, because that just means STEAM has to Update for Movies to work, & such & such, & not everyone will want to Update, plus all those movies will use up space on your computer just to be on the market...

Adding movies to STEAM, means STEAM will have to be a bigger size then it already is...

plus adding movies to STEAM will just be like adding more clutter to the masses...

But I don't think too many people will be bothered by it...




I know that when the PS Network added Netflix, YouTube, & various other Apps to the platform on the PS3, I really did not like all of that stuff just sitting there wasting space on my Hard Drive... And they did not allow you to remove it either, that ticked me off the most, it was a mandatory Update, which ticked me off...

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por GuRu Asaki:

Escrito originalmente por Blardow:

Seeing it as a side thing doesn't bother me, and if you don't watch the movies it shouldn't bother you either.

Actually, if you think about it, it might bother some people, because that just means STEAM has to Update for Movies to work, & such & such, & not everyone will want to Update, plus all those movies will use up space on your computer just to be on the market...

And the updates will be delivered on the same reguilar update schedule so it'll be transparent.

Adding movies to STEAM, means STEAM will have to be a bigger size then it already is...

10 or 15 years ago that'd be a problem. but as is the client itself is about 1gig, adding music player didn't seem to butch up the size much and a video player ironically probably won't do anything either.

plus adding movies to STEAM will just be like adding more clutter to the masses...

Only to the masses too lazy to set their custmization prefs.

I know that when the PS Network added Netflix, YouTube, & various other Apps to the platform on the PS3, I really did not like all of that stuff just sitting there wasting space on my Hard Drive... And they did not allow you to remove it either, that ticked me off the most, it was a mandatory Update, which ticked me off...

Again... HD's and computers entirely different story. Most pC's can accomodate 4 hd's easy. 500 gigs a piece.

So really all it means is that tehre is literally just more options on the store, those who like them will buy the movies those that don't can ignore them.. Beyond that. It's called progress.

[Crusader01]

They can utilise Windows Media Player to play their movies.

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Don't like? - Don't buy.

[GuRu Asaki]

Escrito originalmente por Queenie:

Don't like? - Don't buy.

It's not that easy? If I don't like I can't just say I don't want to download the Update for Movies, it's a regular update, you have no choice...

So it's only a few bytes in Size? Not a big Deal, my HDD can handle it...

Thats not the problem, the problem is I don't want it there...

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por GuRu Asaki:

Escrito originalmente por Queenie:

Don't like? - Don't buy.

It's not that easy? If I don't like I can't just say I don't want to download the Update for Movies, it's a regular update, you have no choice...

And? You expect valve to bother to produce an update sans movies ... that'd me needless and pointless, not to mentyion headache inducing.

Put it this way, I don't use Big Picture or Boradcasting Likely, neither do you. DO you complain about those being a part of the client?

So it's only a few bytes in Size? Not a big Deal, my HDD can handle it...

Thats not the problem, the problem is I don't want it there...

Unfortunately very few pieces of software gives you absolute control. I mean you can't decide that you don't want the italics button to be installed at all in word do you?. It's transparent to the normal process, doesn't actually affect the existing process in any meaningful way and could be a time saver later on.

[GuRu Asaki]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Escrito originalmente por GuRu Asaki:

It's not that easy? If I don't like I can't just say I don't want to download the Update for Movies, it's a regular update, you have no choice...

And? You expect valve to bother to produce an update sans movies ... that'd me needless and pointless, not to mentyion headache inducing.

Put it this way, I don't use Big Picture or Boradcasting Likely, neither do you. DO you complain about those being a part of the client?

So it's only a few bytes in Size? Not a big Deal, my HDD can handle it...

Thats not the problem, the problem is I don't want it there...

Unfortunately very few pieces of software gives you absolute control. I mean you can't decide that you don't want the italics button to be installed at all in word do you?. It's transparent to the normal process, doesn't actually affect the existing process in any meaningful way and could be a time saver later on.

Actually, I do you Big Picture Mode, & I will use broadcasting, it partains to Gaming, Netflix is different, cause it does not pertain to Gaming...

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por GuRu Asaki:

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

And? You expect valve to bother to produce an update sans movies ... that'd me needless and pointless, not to mentyion headache inducing.

Put it this way, I don't use Big Picture or Boradcasting Likely, neither do you. DO you complain about those being a part of the client?



Unfortunately very few pieces of software gives you absolute control. I mean you can't decide that you don't want the italics button to be installed at all in word do you?. It's transparent to the normal process, doesn't actually affect the existing process in any meaningful way and could be a time saver later on.

Actually, I do you Big Picture Mode, & I will use broadcasting, it partains to Gaming, Netflix is different, cause it does not pertain to Gaming...

And in case you missed it. Steam long since stopped being 'About Gaming'. There's a very well stocked software section as well.