VG_Elder 2015년 8월 1일 오전 7시 51분
Movies on Steam. Why???
Starting to see more and more movies showing up on Steam and many people, like me, are confused why Steam is getting into the movie business. Steam is a gaming service and they should not be posting movies here. They should start a whole new service and call it Steam Movies or something like that. I realize they are trying to reach out to indie movie developers in the same way the reach out to indie game developers but it just makes it confusing when you see movies start popping up on a gaming site. How seriously are people going to take these movies anyway? I love movies so I go to Netflix, Hulu, etc... I don't go looking for movies on Steam. It would be a great idea to open a new movie site and pair it with movies making software and development tools and I would gladly sign up for that but please pull this stuff off the gaming store. To me it just trashes up the place.
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Tux 2015년 10월 2일 오전 6시 46분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
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except when it comes to what games are shown. In that case the community seems to want GabeN to decide for them

Actually this is the same things. One group of the customer base asking Gabe to o something about the stuff they don't like.

we want a democratic approach (like greenlight) toward if we should have movies or not but when it comes to what games we want to see the board of directors should just hire someone for us.
Start_Running 2015년 10월 2일 오전 6시 48분 
Tux님이 먼저 게시:
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Actually this is the same things. One group of the customer base asking Gabe to o something about the stuff they don't like.

we want a democratic approach (like greenlight) toward if we should have movies or not but when it comes to what games we want to see the board of directors should just hire someone for us.

You don't get it Tux. They say they want a democratic approach like greenlight but we know from greenlight trhat they'll it's broken because movies they do't like or aren't interested in get on.

As said. It is very easy to ignore the fact that there are movies on steam if one wishes. I literally had no clue they were a thing until I saw threads like this.
Tux 2015년 10월 2일 오전 7시 23분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
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we want a democratic approach (like greenlight) toward if we should have movies or not but when it comes to what games we want to see the board of directors should just hire someone for us.

You don't get it Tux. They say they want a democratic approach like greenlight but we know from greenlight trhat they'll it's broken because movies they do't like or aren't interested in get on.

As said. It is very easy to ignore the fact that there are movies on steam if one wishes. I literally had no clue they were a thing until I saw threads like this.


Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

we want a democratic approach (like greenlight) toward if we should have movies or not but when it comes to what games we want to see the board of directors should just hire someone for us.

You don't get it Tux. They say they want a democratic approach like greenlight but we know from greenlight trhat they'll it's broken because movies they do't like or aren't interested in get on.

As said. It is very easy to ignore the fact that there are movies on steam if one wishes. I literally had no clue they were a thing until I saw threads like this.

I am pointing out that the so called 'community;' is taking the EXACT opposite position with movies as they are with games.

movies = we should vote if movies should be shown or not

games = Gabe Newel should hire a team to filter games for us

Start_Running 2015년 10월 2일 오전 8시 07분 
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

I am pointing out that the so called 'community;' is taking the EXACT opposite position with movies as they are with games.

movies = we should vote if movies should be shown or not

games = Gabe Newel should hire a team to filter games for us

It's not so much opposite but mirroring the evolution. What do you trink the community was clamouring for before greenlight rolled out?
We should bea bale to decide what games get on steam.

Fast forward and now it/.s Gabe should decide.

"History doesn'rt repeat itself. but it sure does rhyme"
- Mark Twain


People like democracy when they believe that the majority are like them and of their opinions. They then turn against it when they realize that they are in fact the minority. I mean heck it's the greatest Irony of US history that before the revolution they vehemently rjected parlimentary representation. I.e they did want it because they knew they'd be out voted.
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Tux 2015년 10월 2일 오전 9시 02분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

I am pointing out that the so called 'community;' is taking the EXACT opposite position with movies as they are with games.

movies = we should vote if movies should be shown or not

games = Gabe Newel should hire a team to filter games for us

It's not so much opposite but mirroring the evolution. What do you trink the community was clamouring for before greenlight rolled out?
We should bea bale to decide what games get on steam.

Fast forward and now it/.s Gabe should decide.

"History doesn'rt repeat itself. but it sure does rhyme"
- Mark Twain


People like democracy when they believe that the majority are like them and of their opinions. They then turn against it when they realize that they are in fact the minority. I mean heck it's the greatest Irony of US history that before the revolution they vehemently rjected parlimentary representation. I.e they did want it because they knew they'd be out voted.

you are laying out an evolution of how things happened.

you are NOT illustrating how the two separate examples I illustrated are not exact opposites of each other
Start_Running 2015년 10월 2일 오전 9시 17분 
Tux님이 먼저 게시:
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

It's not so much opposite but mirroring the evolution. What do you trink the community was clamouring for before greenlight rolled out?
We should bea bale to decide what games get on steam.

Fast forward and now it/.s Gabe should decide.

"History doesn'rt repeat itself. but it sure does rhyme"
- Mark Twain


People like democracy when they believe that the majority are like them and of their opinions. They then turn against it when they realize that they are in fact the minority. I mean heck it's the greatest Irony of US history that before the revolution they vehemently rjected parlimentary representation. I.e they did want it because they knew they'd be out voted.

you are laying out an evolution of how things happened.

you are NOT illustrating how the two separate examples I illustrated are not exact opposites of each other

Look at it in terms of static states and yes they are opposites. See it as a continuum you see the same pattern. In short, if they did do a grenlight typoe thing with movies. I would bet money that in a few months to a year you'll see post bthat Greenlight Films is broken because crappy movies are getting through and valve should enforce QC.


It's not so much that they're oppisites more like one had a headstart over the other in time.
Tux 2015년 10월 2일 오전 9시 49분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
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you are laying out an evolution of how things happened.

you are NOT illustrating how the two separate examples I illustrated are not exact opposites of each other

Look at it in terms of static states and yes they are opposites. See it as a continuum you see the same pattern. In short, if they did do a grenlight typoe thing with movies. I would bet money that in a few months to a year you'll see post bthat Greenlight Films is broken because crappy movies are getting through and valve should enforce QC.


It's not so much that they're oppisites more like one had a headstart over the other in time.

struggling a bit there with compartmentalize subject matters?

IS vs HOW?

Start_Running 2015년 10월 2일 오전 10시 28분 
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

IS vs HOW?

See it this way. The diefference between a ball in the air and a ball on the ground. Is a few seconds.

They're asking for a greenlight for Movies much in the same way they asked for a greenlight for games. And we;ve seen that now with greenlight for games that they want other people in chatrge of picking the games since games they don't like or want are getting through

So applied to movies we're at the state where the community is asking for a voting style greenlight. Given that we're speaking of the same steam community. Is there any reason not to expect that a few months to a year later they'd be asking for someone else to pick the movies because movies they don't want or like keep getting on to steam?


Tux 2015년 10월 2일 오전 10시 54분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

IS vs HOW?

See it this way. The diefference between a ball in the air and a ball on the ground. Is a few seconds.

They're asking for a greenlight for Movies much in the same way they asked for a greenlight for games. And we;ve seen that now with greenlight for games that they want other people in chatrge of picking the games since games they don't like or want are getting through

So applied to movies we're at the state where the community is asking for a voting style greenlight. Given that we're speaking of the same steam community. Is there any reason not to expect that a few months to a year later they'd be asking for someone else to pick the movies because movies they don't want or like keep getting on to steam?


Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
Tux님이 먼저 게시:

IS vs HOW?

See it this way. The diefference between a ball in the air and a ball on the ground. Is a few seconds.

They're asking for a greenlight for Movies much in the same way they asked for a greenlight for games. And we;ve seen that now with greenlight for games that they want other people in chatrge of picking the games since games they don't like or want are getting through

So applied to movies we're at the state where the community is asking for a voting style greenlight. Given that we're speaking of the same steam community. Is there any reason not to expect that a few months to a year later they'd be asking for someone else to pick the movies because movies they don't want or like keep getting on to steam?

actually what you are saying is exactly what I am saying
eotzu0 2015년 10월 2일 오전 11시 49분 
I think that if steam can provide dev software and CAD then movies are albeit a bit far fetched but could still be applicaple. besides, imagine sales on ur movies
Start_Running 2015년 10월 2일 오후 12시 39분 
eotzuofug님이 먼저 게시:
I think that if steam can provide dev software and CAD then movies are albeit a bit far fetched but could still be applicaple. besides, imagine sales on ur movies


Well Think of how Amazon started. With Books. Now I can by car parts on it.
76561198117687183 2015년 10월 2일 오후 10시 17분 
ty bro.:steamhappy:
Crusader01 2015년 10월 3일 오전 4시 35분 
Walsh님이 먼저 게시:
Steam just needs to drop the whole movie thing, it'll never compete with netflix or any other movie site. Same goes for the steam broadcasting thing, it'll never compete with twitch. Instead of focusing on movies and broadcasting, how about you use that time, effort, and money on your 'great' steam support service.

Steam Support is a good point, but if Valve put movies and broadcasting up, in the future this will be Netflix, Twitch, Game shop and forums combined
Roxxor 2015년 10월 3일 오전 4시 40분 
I think it is a good idea, i really like the steam design and would like to buy my movies as easy as buying and playing games here.
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76561198117687183 2015년 10월 3일 오전 4시 47분 
ty
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