Stuck at allocating disk space. need help.

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ok, so i bought Borderlands 2 yesterday because me and a friend wanted to play it again. When i started installing it, it got stuck at allocating disk space. This isn't the first time this has happened. The same problem accured when i tried installing PayDay 2. Please help me, i really want to play borderlands 2 and PayDay 2

these are my specs.
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Speed 2.9 GHz
Number of Cores 2
CPU ID BFEBFBFF00020652
Family 06
Model 25
Stepping 2
Revision 09
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Chipset GeForce 8600 GT
Dedicated Memory 499.6 MB
Total Memory 1.2 GB
Pixel Shader Version 4.0
Vertex Shader Version 4.0
Hardware T & L Yes
Vendor ID 10DE
Device ID 0402
Plug and Play ID VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
Driver Version 9.18.13.4052
Memory 2.0 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (build 7600), 64-bit
Service Pack 0
Size 64 Bit
Edition Ultimate
Version 6.1.7600
Locale 0409
BIOS
Version Award Software International, Inc. F1
Manufacturer
Date 12/03/09
Display Maximum Resolution 1360 x 768
Sound Device High Definition Audio Device
Driver Version 6.1.7600.16385
DVD DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
CD DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
Drive 1
Size 377.9 GB
Free 129.6 GB
Drive 2
Size 87.8 GB
Free 48.3 GB
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i don't know about my partions

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That's quite low space for hdds these days, how old is that disk 2 hard drive? And my answer is same as above, the closer you get to the end of a disk the slower it will get, to the point where it will take forever to complete a task, that is especially true on older hard drives, which I think is the case here.

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Originally posted by fauxtronic:

Run a check disk on both drives:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee872425.aspx

It's probably a good idea to install on drive 1, not drive 2. That second drive is getting really low on space which in itself can cause disk allocation slowdowns. When a drive gets low on space, Windows may start resizing the swap file and that may confuse any other software (like Steam) when it tries to allocate space for new games or maybe just slow it down.

driver 2 is my (C:) and driver 1 is (D:)

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Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

That's quite low space for hdds these days, how old is that disk 2 hard drive? And my answer is same as above, the closer you get to the end of a disk the slower it will get, to the point where it will take forever to complete a task, that is especially true on older hard drives, which I think is the case here.

my pc is... well old-ish. it's from 2011/12

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also that link you sent me. i did what it said and no problems were found

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1 more thing. the "stuck at allocating disk space" only happened to Borderlands 2 and Payday 2, on anyother game it'll take up to 1 minute and that's it.

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Originally posted by fauxtronic:

Well Borderlands 2 and Payday 2 each take up over 13GB of space and chances are many of your other games do not which is why they don't cause the same problem. It's certainly plausible that trying to install games of such size to a disk with only 48.3GB of space will cause problems. I imagine your HDD is thrashing like crazy when Steam is allocating data because Windows is trying to resize the swap file.

If you can't afford to buy a new internal HDD to replace those two rather small and overly-filled drives, then it would be a good idea to start uninstalling programs you don't need to free up more space. Alternatively, you could try creating a new Steam Library Folder on the other hard drive (go into Steam > Settings > Downloads > Steam Library Folders to do this) and installing the games there instead.

my steam is on driver 1 which is my (D:) and all my games are installed there

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Just out of curiosity, have you ever ran a defrag, and by defrag I mean a proper one, not using windows in-built trash which does nothing, like auslogics disk defrag or defraggler, on low space drives such as yours that could significantly improve some seek times, and thus decrease allocation times. Worth a try.

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Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Just out of curiosity, have you ever ran a defrag, and by defrag I mean a proper one, not using windows in-built trash which does nothing, like auslogics disk defrag or defraggler, on low space drives such as yours that could significantly improve some seek times, and thus decrease allocation times. Worth a try.

no i haven't, i don't even know what de-fragging means. i'm not a native english speaker so.. yeah

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Originally posted by HOLD MY BEEER!!!:

Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Just out of curiosity, have you ever ran a defrag, and by defrag I mean a proper one, not using windows in-built trash which does nothing, like auslogics disk defrag or defraggler, on low space drives such as yours that could significantly improve some seek times, and thus decrease allocation times. Worth a try.

no i haven't, i don't even know what de-fragging means. i'm not a native english speaker so.. yeah

Essentailly a HDD is made up of blocks, each block contains data, large data takes up more blocks, but in a lot of cases over time you end up with that data being placed all over the HDD's blocks meaning the hard drive has to work harder to piece together the data you are asking for. Defragging re-arranges the data on the hard drive so that data is read more efficiently.

The same goes for allocation, if you drive is fragmented, it will take steam forever to allocate all of those random empty blocks all over your drive, so that they are ready for your game.

Here is an article which explains it better: http://lifehacker.com/5976424/what-is-defragging-and-do-i-need-to-do-it-to-my-computer

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Also for low-space HDD's its not un-common for disk allocation to take upwards of 10-15 mins.

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Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Also for low-space HDD's its not un-common for disk allocation to take upwards of 10-15 mins.

i bought Borderlands on saturday. i left it to load all day and night, up until today.

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Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Originally posted by HOLD MY BEEER!!!:

no i haven't, i don't even know what de-fragging means. i'm not a native english speaker so.. yeah

Essentailly a HDD is made up of blocks, each block contains data, large data takes up more blocks, but in a lot of cases over time you end up with that data being placed all over the HDD's blocks meaning the hard drive has to work harder to piece together the data you are asking for. Defragging re-arranges the data on the hard drive so that data is read more efficiently.

The same goes for allocation, if you drive is fragmented, it will take steam forever to allocate all of those random empty blocks all over your drive, so that they are ready for your game.

Here is an article which explains it better: http://lifehacker.com/5976424/what-is-defragging-and-do-i-need-to-do-it-to-my-computer

i did what it said and the "disk defragmenter" says that "9% fragmented on (C:), 6% fragmented on (D:) and 0% on "System Reserved" what ever that is.

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Originally posted by HOLD MY BEEER!!!:

Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Essentailly a HDD is made up of blocks, each block contains data, large data takes up more blocks, but in a lot of cases over time you end up with that data being placed all over the HDD's blocks meaning the hard drive has to work harder to piece together the data you are asking for. Defragging re-arranges the data on the hard drive so that data is read more efficiently.

The same goes for allocation, if you drive is fragmented, it will take steam forever to allocate all of those random empty blocks all over your drive, so that they are ready for your game.

Here is an article which explains it better: http://lifehacker.com/5976424/what-is-defragging-and-do-i-need-to-do-it-to-my-computer

i did what it said and the "disk defragmenter" says that "9% fragmented on (C:), 6% fragmented on (D:) and 0% on "System Reserved" what ever that is.

Thats quite a substantial amount of fragmentation, I'd go ahead and defragment those :p

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Originally posted by •Muryαñi•:

Originally posted by HOLD MY BEEER!!!:

i did what it said and the "disk defragmenter" says that "9% fragmented on (C:), 6% fragmented on (D:) and 0% on "System Reserved" what ever that is.

Thats quite a substantial amount of fragmentation, I'd go ahead and defragment those :p

it's done. now what ? i'm gonna try and install borderlands 2