Yet another "No connection" issue.

[Diabeetus]

I've checked my internet, ports. I have internet, and even to steam via the web browser, and via the client, at least as far as the store and other things go. Yet I get "No connection" displayed at the bottom of my screen, and games can't update or cloud synch. I try clearing my cache, which causes steam to reload, I select my name, and now login is super slow and eventually hangs. This persists across reboots. So I kill everything in steam folder except steam.exe and steamapps. Open steam via the steam.exe. Steam downloads its updates and asks me to login, which I do, and I'm welcomed to a working steam again as it begins updating my games and such. Cloud synch works again roo. Yay! Until next time I start steam, and it's right back to the "no connection" issue. Lather rinse repeat. I tried the system file checker, and while it says it did fix some things, this had no effect on steam. I dbl check firewall, AV, ports, etc, all to no effect, and doesn't make sense that even if it were them, steam would only work the first time.

Now, Sure, you may now think the computer or OS has some deeper issue, it's gotta be something system-wide. And again, it doesn't make sense that it'd let steam function normally first load after killing all of the files, but then have issue on subsequent loads. But also, this is doing it across all of my computers with steam. Ok, maybe it's something I have going on with the way I setup windows on all of my computers? No, because it's even happening on my laptop, and my daughter's PC which run Linux mint 21.3. All are doing the no connection thing. And all will refuse to fully login after clearing the download cache on that system. And on the linux PCs, even uninstalling/removing the package, killing the steam games folder, rebooting, and reinstalling the package, it still remembers my login, and hangs during login, so I can't even use them at all now.

[Iceira]

Not sure why you cant understand its from your network into steam, then you have 2 pc that do same, whatever setup you have here is your problem. i can say wifi and VPN and further way in steam DL zone could also be the problem , ( all this includ your ISP also ) its from you in steam though all your ISP and there minors as we say today, thatr mean your ISP and there partners partner, all of them is still your ISP problem you are custommer there not the partners.

and be happy you get a reply like that, because all we others has diffrent locations and cant have same connections its from your wallplug even building basement fiber or whatever local telehouses before it even reach steam server,

and we have seen bad cable and other old router with wifi has weak signal, so many things can do this, test with direct connection to wallplug and see if this help, again we have no clue here how wallplug is at your place r-45 or modem or need of router.

and we are not support here thats is your ISP, if you have any network issue.
also why use spare pc from other is prefered see it as so you dont make same mistake with same apps or other way, you need to be network experts to know alot of this crap,

dont expect any here is so, even IT ppl can get it wrong,
but i bet you get the if my laptop work at your wallplug , then you get the msg. and you just busted yourself as proof if lets say my laptop did work there.

and this is why its so cleaver to have more then 1 pc, so you get multi confirmations. and not just 1 pc witha connnections issue..

understands why there is being reply like this.

you need to figureout my network or ISP into steam issue.
ask isp nicley if they have a issue.

bad packet test
https://packetlosstest.com/
network speed do i get what i paid for.
https://www.speedtest.net/

router firmware is updated ? , check own patch cable, ( and to be rude what is wifi and VPN ) gamers that play gamers for several of hours, should not know what what wifi is, a air connection that can be broken by so many things, no i still dont know what wifi is, and so should all gamers says. ( if wifi is so great why dont they use it at Esport, thats right it has so many con's that they cant use it ever. )

and again be happy someone bother to tell you this.

dont think i hate wifi, its great to check mails and remote simple work, huge diffrence then you dont play gamers.

and be happy steam has policy in what we can say here, or ppl will be termiinated,

and just wait then someday game devs actual bother us to tell what steam users do then connect with wifi across the wrold and cause game lag, a side of diccuess most game devs do not want to take , because they can lose custommers on it, so they wont do that here. ( a ugly truth most steam users never see here. )

i dont work for steam and game devs, i work with network that mean i see things from network point of view. even in global network and stick to truth and network as fare as my education and i can understand it.


gl with it.

[Iceira]

And i doubt you have change anything at router or switch isp so firewall is not open

Some isp has VIP portal that open/enable steam traffic.

its never this, but you know how it is there is always one steam user that has this issue.

[no154370]

Or OP go and install this program on all the computers

1) private internet access VPN aka pia vpn

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/vpn-server/usa-vpn#:~:text=Connect%20to%20a%20PIA%20VPN,no%20matter%20where%20you%20are.

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

[Diabeetus]

The 2 test sites show fine, though I get nowhere near my advertised speed, it's still more than adequate for the games. Yes I'm on wi-fi as wired would not be practical. And this setup has worked years without issue. And if was internet/network, why would it work the first time after killing all but steam.exe, but not after? And this is repeatable. Roommate, who's also on the wifi currently has no issue, and also is on the same wifi. So multiple computers, different OSes even, all have same problem, except the roommate. So could it be an account issue?

[no154370]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Diabeetus:

The 2 test sites show fine, though I get nowhere near my advertised speed, it's still more than adequate for the games. Yes I'm on wi-fi as wired would not be practical. And this setup has worked years without issue. And if was internet/network, why would it work the first time after killing all but steam.exe, but not after? And this is repeatable. Roommate, who's also on the wifi currently has no issue, and also is on the same wifi. So multiple computers, different OSes even, all have same problem, except the roommate. So could it be an account issue?

3rd party program might be the cause of it

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I can guarantee your roommate computer programs list installed on his/her computer is not even the same as your computers

[Diabeetus]

Which would make sense, but the other 2 computers don't have the same software. Not even the same OS. My main PC is running windows 10, and the other 2 on Linux Mint 21.3.

[Iceira]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Diabeetus:

The 2 test sites show fine, though I get nowhere near my advertised speed, it's still more than adequate for the games. Yes I'm on wi-fi as wired would not be practical. And this setup has worked years without issue. And if was internet/network, why would it work the first time after killing all but steam.exe, but not after? And this is repeatable. Roommate, who's also on the wifi currently has no issue, and also is on the same wifi. So multiple computers, different OSes even, all have same problem, except the roommate. So could it be an account issue?

And we are back at this happends at your connections, keep in mind steam and ISP do not use wifi its a end customer solutions , they use fiber and patch cable to server.

And you also now proof work with one not other, a ISP will see this as a local Issue.

This is not me being right this is your end-equipment, not even owned by ISP i bet.
so all this ( will not be fixed if its you bough router, and intop of this get bill from ISP for fixing this i bet. and thats why as i said ask nicley do they have a issue , but i doubt it then other roommate has no wifi issue.

To many crowded wifi user if i get it right 3+ user that can be seen as a issue.
and we are back at steam user do not get the con's with wifi. then you talking about hours of online gaming. ( wifi router use the air to split communication unless you have multi band

And we dont need to explan you this, any interference in signal bounce to bend and water can make a wall for signal even a person can do this.

No my friend welcome to why we other dont use wifi then we play games for several hours,


go ahead and do per pc test make sure 1 pc with wifi is on and they other dont get netcard signal to networkport shut all other pc down to see if it help.

[Diabeetus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Iceira:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Diabeetus:

The 2 test sites show fine, though I get nowhere near my advertised speed, it's still more than adequate for the games. Yes I'm on wi-fi as wired would not be practical. And this setup has worked years without issue. And if was internet/network, why would it work the first time after killing all but steam.exe, but not after? And this is repeatable. Roommate, who's also on the wifi currently has no issue, and also is on the same wifi. So multiple computers, different OSes even, all have same problem, except the roommate. So could it be an account issue?

And we are back at this happends at your connections, keep in mind steam and ISP do not use wifi its a end customer solutions , they use fiber and patch cable to server.

And you also now proof work with one not other, a ISP will see this as a local Issue.

this is not me being right this is your end equipment, not even owned by ISP i bet.

But as stated, roommate is using the same connection, same ISP, same wifi, and does not have the issue.

[no154370]

in other words

Your roommate's computer, the list of programs installed on his/her computer is not the same as the list of programs installed on your computer OP

[no154370]

and i agree with iceira that the problem lies with you and isp only

[Diabeetus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh no154370:

in other words

Your roommate's computer, the list of programs installed on his/her computer is not the same as the list of programs installed on your computer OP

Nor is the list of programs on my Main PC (windows), vs my laptop and daughter's computer (linux mint), yet they also suffer the issue.

[no154370]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Diabeetus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh no154370:

in other words

Your roommate's computer, the list of programs installed on his/her computer is not the same as the list of programs installed on your computer OP

Nor is the list of programs on my Main PC (windows), vs my laptop and daughter's computer (linux mint), yet they also suffer the issue.

If all your computers installed a single same program since you got access to all your computers

Then the problem lies with that program

A program that blocks ip address, websites, gaming platforms, isp.......etc

[Diabeetus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh no154370:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Diabeetus:

Nor is the list of programs on my Main PC (windows), vs my laptop and daughter's computer (linux mint), yet they also suffer the issue.

If all your computers installed a single same program since you got access to all your computers

Then the problem lies with that program

A program that blocks ip address, websites, gaming platforms, isp.......etc

The only programs it would have in common between the windows and linux PCs would be steam itself, though different builds obvious, and the games themselves, though many of them being linux native would be different builds, with maybe a handful windows versions running under proton. There's also firefox, but again, different builds due to different OSs. No clue what else would be common between them being on wholly different operating systems.

[Iceira]

Now you know why i and other dislike wifi. ( not a gamers first choise at all, ) you share airway to all users and he take all your roommate turn it off as test )

Congested wifi network with to many users, or wifi just got a punch in the gut here.
make sure roommate dont eat all bandwide, but you never mention this, you still share bandwide and he seem to get all maybe ) all this is impossible for us to see how setup is and that why turn power total off as test. ( also check you dont have other freeloads in the wifi router access to it, i doubt its this but we dont know here. ) this means its only your approvale of who you know may be on the network. ( no neighbourrs )

Dont forget we only have your explanations here, we cant see build and distance and still has no clue on armed concreate or other things that degrade the wifi-signal as i have in my flat.

Also why i and other judge so hard on wifi. ( it not on you its the network solution that dont again live up to what you want it to do. ) and i dount you want multi wifi router at house but again gl with whatever you want to deal with it.

this is know as roming wifi , many office is doing. or places with wifi hub ( hotspot ).

most office today has hotspot per room. so other dont get cutoff from access or dropout.

gl with it.

[Diabeetus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Iceira:

Now you know why i and other dislike wifi. ( not a gamers first choise at all, ) you share airway to all usres and he take all your roommate turn it off as test )

Congested wifi network with to many users, or wifi just got a punch in the gut here.
make sure roommate dont eat all bandwide, but you never mention this, you still share bandwide and he seem to get all maybe ) all this is impossible for us to see how setup is and that why turn power total off as test. ( also check you dont have other freeloads in the wifi router access to it, i doubt its this but we dopnt know here. ) this means its only your approvale of who you know may be on the network. ( no neighbourrs )

Dont forget we only have your explanations here, we cant see build and distance and still has no clue on armed concreate or other things that degrade the wifi as i have in my flat.

Also why i and other judge so hard on wifi. ( it not on you its the network solution that dont again live up to what you want it to do. ) and i dount you want multi wifi router at house but again gl with whatever you want to deal with it.

this is know as roming wifi , many office is doing. or places with wifi.

I can see who's connected, their network names, and even how much data they're using. Problem exsists when they're not even home and have nothing active at that time. It's my ISP's leased router. I do have a second router connected to it via LAN port/uplink port that gets far better signal range. Though they are using different SSIDs so I can tell which I'm on at the moment, though my devices can freely connect to whichever. However, I have disconnected the 2nd router as part of troubleshooting to eliminate it as a possible cause, but that made no change. And to keep things simple, I've left it off and disconnected until I get this straightened out to keep it from possibly throwing me off. I can reconnect it later. Sadly, I have to use the wifi since running wiring is near impossible without hiring someone to come in and install everything and that's cost prohibited. And wifi has worked well until a cpl of days ago. And even then, works for everything else. And you'd think it'd be consistently a problem after wiping steam and letting it reinstall, yet the problem clear up then, but only for that time. Close and reopen steam, even immediately, and it's "no connection: again. It makes no sense.