Need to Constantly restart steam/computer for any game updates to show up

[Kiori Bug]

I have cleared my download cache, restarted my PC, and restarted Steam just to finally see if a game needs/requires an update.

If I launch a game to try and play with friends I constantly run into issues of "mismatched version" while my download queue is barren of any updates. I restart steam, sometimes they show up, and sometimes they don't. Verify the game files sometimes works but this is an issue I'm quickly growing tired of when I never had this issue before.

I've gone through my settings, and my games are set to update when an update is available/keep them updated ect but these options mean nothing if my client doesn't seem to get the "updates".

This isn't related to a single game, but multiple games. Helldivers 2, Palworld, Demonologist, Phasmophobia, Smallands, and Stardew Valley just to name a few of the games this is a constant issue. I don't play these games every day and when I try to play with friends and see the game had an update a few days to over a week before my first thought isn't "Oh, I should restart Steam to make sure these games have updated" but if I see no queue I should be good to load the game and play it.

If anyone can help point me in a direction or a setting I may have clicked and not realized I would appreciate it. I'm at my wit's end with this.

[Kiori Bug]

457s a écrit :

Does it happen across both PCs in the same network? You'll have that every once and a while but it shouldn't be all of the time.

Are you both using the same platform to play the game? Updates for games on different platforms roll out at different times.

I no longer have that PC anymore since I upgraded to this one and I wouldn't be able to check anything from there. The only thing I moved from my old pc was my old ssd and power supply.

I understand that games roll out updates at different times for different regions, but I don't think this is the issue.

Last night my friends and I were going to play "Sketchy's Contract". They had both received and updated the game the day before, while I needed to close steam for it and other downloads to appear in my Manage Download page to finally update the game myself.

Iceira a écrit :

Well anything lesser then 500gb on boot disk you could be in trouble if its a BGIII game
and you still need 200gb free space after this , and more space doing process of data.

this will soon increase within a year or 2 , then game install hit 250gb some games with dlc and collection is already past such tiny disk space issue.

and future post will say do you have 1TB free space, or we are done talking.

game 250gb multiplyed by 3 to 5 then you are in 750gb to 1,25TB on boot disk with OS and windows DL folder and Document ( you are already in trouble. ) depend on DL size.

I'm not sure what you're going on about really. I have more than one drive ranging from M2/SSD/HDD.

I'm not failing to download updates or running out of space. I'm failing to see updates in Steam unless I close steam completely and reopen the client. The "Manage Downloads" page is blank/empty.

Iceira a écrit :

457s a écrit :

He's not having an unpacking issue. His downloads just don't show up in general.

You can try clear cache "in game" steam menu ( web browser data ) and DL , and try steam flush cmd. ( assume it has worked before. )
( make sure steam storage management know all multi disk still )

assume its not a dlc , they will not be showed therer the get added direrctly into game dlc sections.

These are normal game updates, not talking about dlc packs not showing in the list ect ect. I just did the flush cmd you mentioned because that's something I haven't tried and wasn't listed on the steam help page, but either way, I'm now waiting for something to update in my library to see if the last adjustment fixed my issue.

[457s]

Kiori Bug a écrit :

457s a écrit :

Does it happen across both PCs in the same network? You'll have that every once and a while but it shouldn't be all of the time.

Are you both using the same platform to play the game? Updates for games on different platforms roll out at different times.

I no longer have that PC anymore since I upgraded to this one and I wouldn't be able to check anything from there. The only thing I moved from my old pc was my old ssd and power supply.

I understand that games roll out updates at different times for different regions, but I don't think this is the issue.

Last night my friends and I were going to play "Sketchy's Contract". They had both received and updated the game the day before, while I needed to close steam for it and other downloads to appear in my Manage Download page to finally update the game myself.

Iceira a écrit :

Well anything lesser then 500gb on boot disk you could be in trouble if its a BGIII game
and you still need 200gb free space after this , and more space doing process of data.

this will soon increase within a year or 2 , then game install hit 250gb some games with dlc and collection is already past such tiny disk space issue.

and future post will say do you have 1TB free space, or we are done talking.

game 250gb multiplyed by 3 to 5 then you are in 750gb to 1,25TB on boot disk with OS and windows DL folder and Document ( you are already in trouble. ) depend on DL size.

I'm not sure what you're going on about really. I have more than one drive ranging from M2/SSD/HDD.

I'm not failing to download updates or running out of space. I'm failing to see updates in Steam unless I close steam completely and reopen the client. The "Manage Downloads" page is blank/empty.

Iceira a écrit :

You can try clear cache "in game" steam menu ( web browser data ) and DL , and try steam flush cmd. ( assume it has worked before. )
( make sure steam storage management know all multi disk still )

assume its not a dlc , they will not be showed therer the get added direrctly into game dlc sections.

These are normal game updates, not talking about dlc packs not showing in the list ect ect. I just did the flush cmd you mentioned because that's something I haven't tried and wasn't listed on the steam help page, but either way, I'm now waiting for something to update in my library to see if the last adjustment fixed my issue.

I'm starting to think you need to redownload either steam or windows itself because there may be something that got mis-configured that I can't really pinpoint - but I hope it ends up working for you. I don't know any other fixes. :(

[Kiori Bug]

457s a écrit :

I'm starting to think you need to redownload either steam or windows itself because there may be something that got mis-configured that I can't really pinpoint - but I hope it ends up working for you. I don't know any other fixes. :(

I'm hoping I won't have to, but I appreciate you trying to help nonetheless. If it doesn't work, I can live with it or reinstall Windows, and I would rather not do that if I can avoid it.

I've asked a few of my tech-savvy friends and they've never heard of my issue either, so either I've done something and don't know or something else.

[Iceira]

Well gl with that in what IT ppl do not know, to be a gamer and have pc repair experience is not same thingy, your ( IT Friends might not have the insight as you think they do. )

And they talk in General, that not same as deal with uncommon things in what they think.

And yes reinstall windows fix many things, but same time what prevent errotr come back then you probaly will do same procedur. ( why will you not make same choise in what you did )

go ahead use check disk and other check pc issue.

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restorehealth
SFC /Scannow
chkdsk c:
chkdsk d:
chkdsk e:


ps.
And be happy i dont care what other think, because that lead you to no Solutions.
so technicaly they dont no much about faulthy finding and process in to ID them.

Do not think im rude, becuase we could all walk away and stop help or reply then your IT Friend has spoken with you.


if reset windows dont help or you get error back then you know what i said and other ways is need to figureout what cause this.

ps.
There is a difftrence in deal with uncommon crap things and just have a pc there is never a issue with.

[Kiori Bug]

Iceira a écrit :

Well gl with that in what IT ppl do not know, to be a gamer and have pc repair experience is not same thingy, your ( IT Friends might not have the insight as you think they do. )

And they talk in General, that not same as deal with uncommon things in what they think.

And yes reinstall windows fix many things, but same time what prevent errotr come back then you probaly will do same procedur. ( why will you not make same choise in what you did )

go ahead use check disk and other check pc issue.

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restorehealth
SFC /Scannow
chkdsk c:
chkdsk d:
chkdsk e:


ps.
And be happy i dont care what other think, because that lead you to no Solutions.
so technicaly they dont no much about faulthy finding and process in to ID them.

Do not think im rude, becuase we could all walk away and stop help or reply then your IT Friend has spoken with you.


if reset windows dont help or you get error back then you know what i said and other ways is need to figureout what cause this.

ps.
There is a difftrence in deal with uncommon crap things and just have a pc there is never a issue with.

I didn't say anything about "IT". Forgive me for saying "tech" in place of friends who know more about games/steam/and in general computers than I do.

I don't know what I did or what you think I did? Not sure what I'd repeat or what you're saying here. I am assuming there is a language barrier.

I'm not sure what I did to offend you but if I did you are not required to help and I can deal with the issue if it still persists after the changes I've tried above already.

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth - No component store corruption detected.

SFC /Scannow - Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.

I made a pastebin of what the log gave me, but I don't know how to read/understand it.
pastebin.com/sA0NGmt1

chkdsk c: - found no problems
chkdsk d: - found no problems
chksak e: - found no problems

[457s]

Kiori Bug a écrit :

Iceira a écrit :

Well gl with that in what IT ppl do not know, to be a gamer and have pc repair experience is not same thingy, your ( IT Friends might not have the insight as you think they do. )

And they talk in General, that not same as deal with uncommon things in what they think.

And yes reinstall windows fix many things, but same time what prevent errotr come back then you probaly will do same procedur. ( why will you not make same choise in what you did )

go ahead use check disk and other check pc issue.

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restorehealth
SFC /Scannow
chkdsk c:
chkdsk d:
chkdsk e:


ps.
And be happy i dont care what other think, because that lead you to no Solutions.
so technicaly they dont no much about faulthy finding and process in to ID them.

Do not think im rude, becuase we could all walk away and stop help or reply then your IT Friend has spoken with you.


if reset windows dont help or you get error back then you know what i said and other ways is need to figureout what cause this.

ps.
There is a difftrence in deal with uncommon crap things and just have a pc there is never a issue with.

I didn't say anything about "IT". Forgive me for saying "tech" in place of friends who know more about games/steam/and in general computers than I do.

I don't know what I did or what you think I did? Not sure what I'd repeat or what you're saying here. I am assuming there is a language barrier.

I'm not sure what I did to offend you but if I did you are not required to help and I can deal with the issue if it still persists after the changes I've tried above already.

Lol these people think windows scans actually solve issues in 2024 still. They either corrupt and fix nothing, or complete and also fix nothing. That's the funniest part to me

[Kiori Bug]

457s a écrit :

Kiori Bug a écrit :

I didn't say anything about "IT". Forgive me for saying "tech" in place of friends who know more about games/steam/and in general computers than I do.

I don't know what I did or what you think I did? Not sure what I'd repeat or what you're saying here. I am assuming there is a language barrier.

I'm not sure what I did to offend you but if I did you are not required to help and I can deal with the issue if it still persists after the changes I've tried above already.

Lol these people think windows scans actually solve issues in 2024 still. They either corrupt and fix nothing, or complete and also fix nothing. :hatty: That's the funniest part to me

I tried it none the less. The first command fixed something but I don't understand how to read the log it linked to to be able to clarify what it fixed. Just edited my post above to include those details.

I'm really not trying to be combative, but I don't even know if the issue was fixed. I did see one update in my manage downloads today for the game that didn't show up the other day (sketchys), so crossing fingers that means I'm good now.

Talking with you all at least gave me a few things to try I didn't know about so that's something that could have been the answer at least :)

[457s]

Kiori Bug a écrit :

457s a écrit :

Lol these people think windows scans actually solve issues in 2024 still. They either corrupt and fix nothing, or complete and also fix nothing. That's the funniest part to me

I tried it none the less. The first command fixed something but I don't understand how to read the log it linked to to be able to clarify what it fixed. Just edited my post above to include those details.

I'm really not trying to be combative, but I don't even know if the issue was fixed. I did see one update in my manage downloads today for the game that didn't show up the other day (sketchys), so crossing fingers that means I'm good now.

Talking with you all at least gave me a few things to try I didn't know about so that's something that could have been the answer at least :)

Wow, that's the first time in YEARS I've heard of it working honestly.

Microsoft has a learn subdomain that contains a lot of info you could potentially use. I'm not sure if you can post links here but if you just do "learn." before microsoft's website you'll be taken to it.

[Kiori Bug]

457s a écrit :

Kiori Bug a écrit :

I tried it none the less. The first command fixed something but I don't understand how to read the log it linked to to be able to clarify what it fixed. Just edited my post above to include those details.

I'm really not trying to be combative, but I don't even know if the issue was fixed. I did see one update in my manage downloads today for the game that didn't show up the other day (sketchys), so crossing fingers that means I'm good now.

Talking with you all at least gave me a few things to try I didn't know about so that's something that could have been the answer at least :)

Wow, that's the first time in YEARS I've heard of it working honestly.

Microsoft has a learn subdomain that contains a lot of info you could potentially use. I'm not sure if you can post links here but if you just do "learn." before microsoft's website you'll be taken to it.

I found the site you mentioned and I'll take a look through it tonight. All I know is that every file it found "corrupted" didn't fail to repair.

[Iceira]

457s a écrit :

Kiori Bug a écrit :

I didn't say anything about "IT". Forgive me for saying "tech" in place of friends who know more about games/steam/and in general computers than I do.

I don't know what I did or what you think I did? Not sure what I'd repeat or what you're saying here. I am assuming there is a language barrier.

I'm not sure what I did to offend you but if I did you are not required to help and I can deal with the issue if it still persists after the changes I've tried above already.

Lol these people think windows scans actually solve issues in 2024 still. They either corrupt and fix nothing, or complete and also fix nothing. :hatty: That's the funniest part to me

You sure you actual read other post here, several issue has been fixed here, thats the problem here it might not have work for toy in the past. but any helper here can tell you its alot better run them cmd then reinstall OS from scrates and start all over.

But you seem to miss that info here.

Go ahead , all steam user reinstall window sand steam ( its funny most steam issue go away then there is nothig else, installed at windows.

You think any here know what each steam user have done in there system we dont.
i and other has no other choise in use a general diagnostic ways to ID what cause this.

But go ahead takeover the case so many other steam user need help.

( we are not support here in thi steam user forum ) and steam user can try help, but you make a mistake here with you never seen that work before.

Steam dont care what steam user make a point, here they can say anything untill they had enough of it.

I'im out, i don't want to hear what you think work or not.

ps.
here we dont care if a little girl point out a simple thing, and all other look like fools, because we did not mention it first.

even last week someone point at PSU issue, that did it i and other can do same try new hard disk then or cable., you have so many choise , that how pc shop will test such.

[457s]

Iceira a écrit :

457s a écrit :

Lol these people think windows scans actually solve issues in 2024 still. They either corrupt and fix nothing, or complete and also fix nothing. That's the funniest part to me

You sure you actual read other post here, several issue has been fixed here, thats the problem here it might not have work for toy in the past. but any helper here can tell you its alot better run them cmd then reinstall OS from scrates and start all over.

But you seem to miss that info here.

Go ahead , all steam user reinstall window sand steam ( its funny most steam issue go away then there is nothig else, installed at windows.

You think any here know what each steam user have done in there system we dont.
i and other has no other choise in use a general diagnostic ways to ID what cause this.

But go ahead takeover the case so many other steam user need help.

( we are not support here in thi steam user forum ) and steam user can try help, but you make a mistake here with you never seen that work before.

Steam dont care what steam user make a point, here they can say anything untill they had enough of it.

I'im out, i don't want to hear what you think work or not.

ps.
here we dont care if a little girl point out a simple thing, and all other look like fools, because we did not mention it first.

even last week someone point at PSU issue, that did it i and other can do same try new hard disk then or cable., you have so many choise , that how pc shop will test such.

To be fair, sfcscan and dism restorehealth "fixes" Windows issues with a backup of the current Windows version and doesn't change configurations that a user has changed themselves besides permissions to certain things.

Considering both of those use the Windows Component Store (a backup) then you'll just be repairing broken files with broken files usually - which can make matters worse in most cases. It's usually useless and used as a first measure tactic to make sure the user didn't download malware or viruses that messed with permissions - and if you did any amount of reading in this entire thread, you'll see that they had the same issue on 2 different PCs so the likeliness that they had the same malware/virus that effected both PCs is just so highly unlikely.

It's been years since I've seen those scans fix anything besides Windows Store or super minor issues that usually never fix the problem. I didn't say reinstalling Windows WAS the solution. I honestly highly doubt the scan was the one that fixed anything - but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you fixed the issue.

Congrats on fixing the issue for them. Your work is highly commended.

[Iceira]

457s a écrit :

Iceira a écrit :

You sure you actual read other post here, several issue has been fixed here, thats the problem here it might not have work for toy in the past. but any helper here can tell you its alot better run them cmd then reinstall OS from scrates and start all over.

But you seem to miss that info here.

Go ahead , all steam user reinstall window sand steam ( its funny most steam issue go away then there is nothig else, installed at windows.

You think any here know what each steam user have done in there system we dont.
i and other has no other choise in use a general diagnostic ways to ID what cause this.

But go ahead takeover the case so many other steam user need help.

( we are not support here in thi steam user forum ) and steam user can try help, but you make a mistake here with you never seen that work before.

Steam dont care what steam user make a point, here they can say anything untill they had enough of it.

I'im out, i don't want to hear what you think work or not.

ps.
here we dont care if a little girl point out a simple thing, and all other look like fools, because we did not mention it first.

even last week someone point at PSU issue, that did it i and other can do same try new hard disk then or cable., you have so many choise , that how pc shop will test such.

I and other have done this sense win3,11 or XP , untill we try get better at ID what the cause.
To be fair, sfcscan and dism restorehealth "fixes" Windows issues with a backup of the current Windows version and doesn't change configurations that a user has changed themselves besides permissions to certain things.

Considering both of those use the Windows Component Store (a backup) then you'll just be repairing broken files with broken files usually - which can make matters worse in most cases. It's usually useless and used as a first measure tactic to make sure the user didn't download malware or viruses that messed with permissions - and if you did any amount of reading in this entire thread, you'll see that they had the same issue on 2 different PCs so the likeliness that they had the same malware/virus that effected both PCs is just so highly unlikely.

It's been years since I've seen those scans fix anything besides Windows Store or super minor issues that usually never fix the problem. I didn't say reinstalling Windows WAS the solution. I honestly highly doubt the scan was the one that fixed anything - but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you fixed the issue.

Congrats on fixing the issue for them. Your work is highly commended.

Has nothing to do with me, windows has made them solution there even in past OS.

we just try aviod give standard best old advice here reinstall windows and steam, this almost fix 99% of all steam user problerm, but also raise the issue, what if it happend again. ( then this advice was not the fix. and you are back at faulthy finding the cause.


and we are back at you post you have never seen them cmd help anyone, i told you im out, because you know better, then please help OP and find the Solution.

Be lucky if other steam herlp pitch in , i dont stop them , i think you did with them words.

We only have OP tekst here as hes fully understanding of whats going on , even if there is things he do not know about.,

Problem here noone here has hands on gear, if i had that , this poroblem will not last 1-3 days thats fact, any Pro games i know will not accept mistake like this. most of the first to day is research and have time for reset windows. and enhough of this issue.

I and other have done this from win3,11 and XP, try ID what cause this, then things dont play ball here. ( and you only get better at it with try ID it ( reset windows is more a fail in it or we cant ID it, or figure out what the heck problem is, and you learn nothing from that.


ps.
you also make another mistake any technician is not alloweed install app or toold , they have to use OS own tool and Diagnostic. so you see its here as steam usre we can say try ccleaner and other crazy ideas, its OP choise to know what we are taling about.
and figureout why we as example say try it.