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It seems steam don't want to accept my debit card (2024)
A continuation of a post Valve locked because of a "recent post", aka some "steam update".

Smh. They should get POFMA'd...

Old discussion: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/3279192886595103384/




It appears that this is a real problem for users of POSB/DBS debit card users, mainly Singapore users.

Recently, bought a some stuff about a month ago on steam. Less than 2-3 weeks later, I couldn't buy anything because my card was locked/restricted for no real reason. I managed to buy through PayNow.

Less than 3 days later, I attempted to buy another item on steam, PayNow now doesn't exist and was forced to pay through a third party company, in my case, Paypal.

What is going on at Valve? Is this affecting all Singapore users under POSB/DBS?
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Found some information in internet.
They can refuse us in case following:

Non-discrimination: Merchants must treat MasterCard and other card brands equally. Specifically, they cannot refuse to accept specific card brands.

Valid reasons: Merchants may refuse a payment if there are valid reasons such as technical issues or security concerns. However, these reasons should not become a regular practice.

Proper notification: If a merchant refuses to accept a credit card, they must provide clear and appropriate notice to the customer. Additionally, they should explain the reason for the refusal.

but at least they need to explain proper reason of refusal. and Steam support is not doing it properly.
Just thought I'd put it out here for any of you who use the EZ-Link app and aren't currently using YouTrip, Revolut or Wise. You can try using the EZ-Link Pay by Wallet virtual card (Mastercard) to buy on Steam. Note that there's a processing fee of $0.25 1% levy from Mastercard and I'm assuming that you'll need to have enough funds in the wallet. You can top up money to the wallet via a bank card (like the POSB/DBS debit card for example).

I actually managed to buy Forza Horizon 4 using this method less than an hour ago.

The odd thing is that I've actually tried the same thing (i.e. buying on Steam with it) a couple of months ago but it didn't work back then - so I thought maybe it only works with certain merchants like Shopee or Lazada. For some reason, it works now.

Anyway, hope this might be a working alternative for you and that it will continue to work in future.

Edit: Updated info on additional fee on 14 Aug 2024.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: birdfoot; 2024. aug. 13., 9:02
I was looking for alternatives then noticed that the Steam payment page has the Unionpay logo, and DBS also offers an Unionpay debit card, so I applied for an UP card... just to find out that UP is ALSO not available on Steam and might have been disabled by Steam as far back as 2021 which would make it worse than this Mastercard issue that seems to be isolated with DBS.

It just never ends.
Belac eredeti hozzászólása:
I also recently started having this problem that the OP has mentioned. I am from Singapore and use a Mastercard debit card from POSB and had no issues with purchasing till now. My last successful purchase being 26 March 2024. I tried to make a different purchase on 1 April 2024 and that was when the issue popped up.

When I contacted Steam Support, they came back with the same response as well. I had no problem making purchases before so it is not an issue of whether it is activated or not. I have also not shared my Steam account details with anyone else so it is not compromised either. None of the reasons that Steam support mentioned has happened to my account so what is the actual reason?

same here, my last purchase with card is 15 march. tried buying another game on 23 march and that failed. had to use paynow.
Guys after squeezing Steam as hell i finally got AN answer

"Message from Steam Support on Jun 7 @ 2:50am
Thanks for reaching out.
I can see that your recent purchase attempts with a MasterCard ending in **** and **** have failed since the BIN was banned in our system. The BIN refers to the first six digits of the card that are specific to a financial institution and are not specific to only your cards. We’re unable to remove this restriction. These types of bans occur in collaboration with the payment processor and issuing banks.
While I understand that this answer doesn't resolve the issue you're experiencing, we are unable to remove a BIN restriction. The only workaround we can recommend is to use an alternate payment method. All available payment methods in you region are listed during checkout.
Steam Support
Jax"

I pressed further but aren't interested in investigating this issue at all. The basically don't give a rats ass about this issue. I pestered them from Apr 27 2024 - Jun 8 2024 ONLY to be able to get this answer. So... yeah best I could do was to change to another bank to purchase anything.
NierTale eredeti hozzászólása:
Belac eredeti hozzászólása:
I also recently started having this problem that the OP has mentioned. I am from Singapore and use a Mastercard debit card from POSB and had no issues with purchasing till now. My last successful purchase being 26 March 2024. I tried to make a different purchase on 1 April 2024 and that was when the issue popped up.

When I contacted Steam Support, they came back with the same response as well. I had no problem making purchases before so it is not an issue of whether it is activated or not. I have also not shared my Steam account details with anyone else so it is not compromised either. None of the reasons that Steam support mentioned has happened to my account so what is the actual reason?

same here, my last purchase with card is 15 march. tried buying another game on 23 march and that failed. had to use paynow.

How did you use paynow??
Marces eredeti hozzászólása:
Guys after squeezing Steam as hell i finally got AN answer

"Message from Steam Support on Jun 7 @ 2:50am
Thanks for reaching out.
I can see that your recent purchase attempts with a MasterCard ending in **** and **** have failed since the BIN was banned in our system. The BIN refers to the first six digits of the card that are specific to a financial institution and are not specific to only your cards. We’re unable to remove this restriction. These types of bans occur in collaboration with the payment processor and issuing banks.
While I understand that this answer doesn't resolve the issue you're experiencing, we are unable to remove a BIN restriction. The only workaround we can recommend is to use an alternate payment method. All available payment methods in you region are listed during checkout.
Steam Support
Jax"

I pressed further but aren't interested in investigating this issue at all. The basically don't give a rats ass about this issue. I pestered them from Apr 27 2024 - Jun 8 2024 ONLY to be able to get this answer. So... yeah best I could do was to change to another bank to purchase anything.

This is a pretty big step forward! Still doesn't resolve the why, but it is something! Nice work!

I believe they removed the paynow option the moment you used it because it is also under POSB/DBS...

But it seems finicky how they detect who can use Paynow
awww just slap steam left and right .... i check with DBS they literally have no issue flag and etc its STEAM themselves

Steam you are losing alot of money
Marces eredeti hozzászólása:
Guys after squeezing Steam as hell i finally got AN answer

"Message from Steam Support on Jun 7 @ 2:50am
Thanks for reaching out.
I can see that your recent purchase attempts with a MasterCard ending in **** and **** have failed since the BIN was banned in our system. The BIN refers to the first six digits of the card that are specific to a financial institution and are not specific to only your cards. We’re unable to remove this restriction. These types of bans occur in collaboration with the payment processor and issuing banks.
While I understand that this answer doesn't resolve the issue you're experiencing, we are unable to remove a BIN restriction. The only workaround we can recommend is to use an alternate payment method. All available payment methods in you region are listed during checkout.
Steam Support
Jax"

I pressed further but aren't interested in investigating this issue at all. The basically don't give a rats ass about this issue. I pestered them from Apr 27 2024 - Jun 8 2024 ONLY to be able to get this answer. So... yeah best I could do was to change to another bank to purchase anything.

So, all we know is that steam blacklisted the entire bank for unknown reasons?

Shouldn't there at least be some sort of announcement about this? I'm not aware of any controversy with the bank. Very weird, did they make a typo and sanction the wrong bank or something?

Thank you for pushing this far, at least we got SOME info, Steam support gave the rest of us absolutely nothing useful
Legutóbb szerkesztette: WhackadillyWoo; 2024. júl. 26., 16:36
EvilZombie eredeti hozzászólása:
awww just slap steam left and right .... i check with DBS they literally have no issue flag and etc its STEAM themselves

Steam you are losing alot of money

Yeah by all accounts it's steam blacklisting the bank not the bank blacklisting steam. Very weird.
WhackadillyWoo eredeti hozzászólása:
EvilZombie eredeti hozzászólása:
awww just slap steam left and right .... i check with DBS they literally have no issue flag and etc its STEAM themselves

Steam you are losing alot of money

Yeah by all accounts it's steam blacklisting the bank not the bank blacklisting steam. Very weird.
the worst is im been using the same account and same way to pay for steam game for 20 years and steam CS act blur with me knn
WhackadillyWoo eredeti hozzászólása:
EvilZombie eredeti hozzászólása:
awww just slap steam left and right .... i check with DBS they literally have no issue flag and etc its STEAM themselves

Steam you are losing alot of money

Yeah by all accounts it's steam blacklisting the bank not the bank blacklisting steam. Very weird.

Not really i think. Cause a friend of mine uses POSB as well and has 0 issues purchasing things from Steam. Steam seems to be blaming the middle man (payment proccessor) and CLAIMS there's nothing they can do. I asked them to investigate the issue with the "payment proccessor" but they just gave me the computer response of "there's nothing we can do" and close me off.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Marces; 2024. júl. 28., 20:54
Worst thing we could ALL do is email the VALVE staff incharge of Steam Support directly to actually get a response. I did that and all they did was open a ticket for me copy pasted the email in to the ticket. They are basically no help either. You can get their emails at the Valve website.
Issue still exists as of August 20. Using a POSB Mastercard credit card though but the error still persists.

I thought it might be due to the Starhub outage today, but tried with my phone's steam app using mobile data and got the same message.

Which is strange. The last time I bought something from Steam using the same card it went smoothly. Now a few years passed and they don't bother fixing this?
Legutóbb szerkesztette: arutodarling; 2024. aug. 20., 7:54
So uh, I just read this thread(has some useful info) on the Steam subreddit and found this comment...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/s/LQyYziPEg1

There's a lot of misinformation in the comments and I figured I'd chime in as an expert in credit card processing. Steam most likely has fraud filters in place for a wide range of cards. It could be as simple as blocking a BIN range (the first 6 numbers) because they saw a high amount of fraud coming from that issuing bank.

It could be that you or your bank charged back a previous transaction. Your bank can charge back transactions without you knowing if your account is overdrafted or for pretty much any reason. Getting a new card from the same bank account would not avoid this because new cards can be linked to your old card data on the same account.

Any blocks for cards like this would not be able to get lifted by someone at steam support. Fraud filters are typically only accessible by admins of the credit card processing account. I can't say if the issue is specifically your card or an issue with a BIN range, I doubt the support rep has access to that information either, but I can say pretty confidently that you wont be able to get your card unblocked.
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