Gpu & Cpu Usage Issue

[Charlie P]

Ive been having performance issues with my pc on pretty much all games, mainly stutter/lag/screen tear/frame drops. I wasn't able to figure out why for a long time and its driving me crazy. Ive messed around with every setting possible and nothing helps. The more research I did brought me to gpu usage and cpu usage which I use msi afterburner to monitor. While playing the game "Squad" I noticed my gpu usage was around 70-80% and my cpu usage was usually around 20-30%. Im not sure, but could this be my issue? I read that gpu usage while gaming should be at 90-100% does anyone know why this is the case and what I can do to fix it? Sorry Ive been asking alot of questions lately, but im trying to figure this out.

[7IПFΉ_]

1. Only Recently?
2. Check Drivers
3. Overheating?
4. System Spec please?

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

1. Only Recently?
2. Check Drivers
3. Overheating?
4. System Spec please?

No this isnt recent. This has pretty much been the case since ive had it. Specs: Nvidia Rtx 3060(12gb) Gpu, Intel I7- 10700F Cpu, 16gb Ram. I bought this pre built from new egg.

[7IПFΉ_]

1.These pre builds are usually sold with bad PSUs, Have you checked it?
2.Did you OC your GPU or just using MSiA for monitoring?
3.Did you compare your PC benchmarks to similar PCs?
4.What is the utilisation on Desktop without running an app?
5.Did you compare Task manager to MSIA's utilisation to confirm readout?
6.Did you install the correct and latest drivers from their respective manufacturers?
7.Is it just Squad that is behaving this way?
Note: GPU utilisation depends on many things like graphics preset and RTX features being used.

Answer these and I'll get back to you.

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

1.These pre builds are usually sold with bad PSUs, Have you checked it?
2.Did you OC your GPU or just using MSiA for monitoring?
3.Did you compare your PC benchmarks to similar PCs?
4.What is the utilisation on Desktop without running an app?
5.Did you compare Task manager to MSIA's utilisation to confirm readout?
6.Did you install the correct and latest drivers from their respective manufacturers?
7.Is it just Squad that is behaving this way?
Note: GPU utilisation depends on many things like graphics preset and RTX features being used.

Answer these and I'll get back to you.

1. I don’t have any signs of a bad power supply really. No blue screen, no issues turning on, no extra noises etc.
2. I didn’t OC using msi, I’m worried about doing that because I don’t want to mess anything up, but maybe OC would give me better performance.
3. Not really sure what to do for this. I used userbenchmark before but it won’t let me use it. This was my last result https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/67081004
4.Without running a game or anything my cpu was 0-4%(mostly 0) and my memory usage was around 19-24%(mostly 19) in task manager.
5. No the utilization didn’t appear to be the same. When I had the game open at the menu msi gpu usage said 75% cpu usage 7% and on task manager memory said 42% and cpu 10-20%
6. Yes I have the latest nvidia driver. I even uninstalled/reinstalled.
7. It’s not just squad. This annoying stutter, lag, spike, whatever you want to call it happens one way or another with every game. It’s not a constant stutter, it comes and goes. I’ve tried lowering all settings, resolution, texture, shadows, particles, AA on/off, DLSS on/off, vysnc on/off(vysnc off causes my screen to tear) etc. It’s never fully smooth at 60 fps no matter what I do.

Note: for number 5 I mentioned memory instead of gpu in task manager. Gpu and Cpu appear to be similar in task manager and msi stats.

[7IПFΉ_]

CPU sounds optimal and no cause for concern. I can't completely rule out the RAM.
Questions:
1. What is the Wattage on the PSU? (it should be ≥600W)
2. When you unboxed your PC when it arrived did it come with foam or padding inside of the PC?
3. Loose connectors could cause disconnects and unusual behaviour.(Power and MOBO connections)
4. Maybe the GPU is thermal throttling to compensate for over heating. Check the temp readout but these could be faulty as well, take ambient room temps in account.
5. Did you cap the frame rate at 60fps or is the monitor running at 60Hz this could have a substantial impact on utilisation.
6. Is the video game running from HDD or an SSD?
7. Does your computer crash frequently/unstable while using it outside of games, with basic windows tasks?
8. Is Windows 11/10 updated?

Tips:
If you have the experience, try RAM slot 2&4 or 1&3.
Most connectors make a click sound if properly connected.
Damaged pins on the PCIe lanes GPU & MOBO could cause these.
Check out a game play video if the stuttering occurred at these exact places in the game of a different PC.

Opinion:
1.Stuttering doesn't mean something is wrong with your PC. Video games aren't well optimised to run on PCs these days.(If it crashes frequently, BSOD, artefacts or distorted sounds appear I would redeem the warranty.)
2. I deliberately limit my FPS to reduce heat output and utilisation for my system.
3. If something sounds, smells, looks strange around your PC, I would investigate.

I'll get back to you if you answer the questions.

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

CPU sounds optimal and no cause for concern. I can't completely rule out the RAM.
Questions:
1. What is the Wattage on the PSU? (it should be ≥600W)
2. When you unboxed your PC when it arrived did it come with foam or padding inside of the PC?
3. Loose connectors could cause disconnects and unusual behaviour.(Power and MOBO connections)
4. Maybe the GPU is thermal throttling to compensate for over heating. Check the temp readout but these could be faulty as well, take ambient room temps in account.
5. Did you cap the frame rate at 60fps or is the monitor running at 60Hz this could have a substantial impact on utilisation.
6. Is the video game running from HDD or an SSD?
7. Does your computer crash frequently/unstable while using it outside of games, with basic windows tasks?
8. Is Windows 11/10 updated?

Tips:
If you have the experience, try RAM slot 2&4 or 1&3.
Most connectors make a click sound if properly connected.
Damaged pins on the PCIe lanes GPU & MOBO could cause these.
Check out a game play video if the stuttering occurred at these exact places in the game of a different PC.

Opinion:
1.Stuttering doesn't mean something is wrong with your PC. Video games aren't well optimised to run on PCs these days.(If it crashes frequently, BSOD, artefacts or distorted sounds appear I would redeem the warranty.)
2. I deliberately limit my FPS to reduce heat output and utilisation for my system.
3. If something sounds, smells, looks strange around your PC, I would investigate.

I'll get back to you if you answer the questions.
:steamsunny:

1. My PSU is 600W
2. Pc came with some sort of foam or padding to hold it in place, yes.
3. Not really sure how to do that stuff, so I don’t really want to touch it, however everything looks plugged in.
4. I use msi afterburner and temps seem to run normal. Nothing ever hits 90+ or rarely even 85.
5. This is a 60hz tv screen him using at the moment unfortunately. But yes, I cap fps and tried uncapping. Also vysnc on or off.
6. Running from SSD
7. My computer never really crashes outside of gaming or while gaming.
8. Yes, windows 10 is updated.
My Ram slots are in 2&4 right now, maybe I’ll try 1&3. But this was a prebuild so I’m sure they put it there for a reason.

Sorry for the late response, hopefully you can get back to me.

[7IПFΉ_]

1. Nothing wrong with playing at 60hz and 60fps lock.
2. If you experience screen tearing turn on VSync, with VSync on and still experience screen tearing try triple buffering. Most monitors support FreeSync and GSync these days, Just turn GSync on in NVIDIA control panel, doesn't matter which one you have. VSync or Tbuffering is not needed and obsolete.
3. I hope you removed that foam padding
4. Don't overclock if you don't exactly know what you are doing. (Default settings is recommended)

Conclusion:
I don't think anything is wrong with your PC, software these days could cause all sorts of unusual behaviour and lower utilisation is a good thing if you are getting the fps/latency/temps you wanted within reason. System security is always a factor as well. Keep monitoring and check for leaks often if you have a liquid AIO loop and pump. This was fun, let me know if anything happens and enjoy the new "rig".

;)

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

1. Nothing wrong with playing at 60hz and 60fps lock.
2. If you experience screen tearing turn on VSync, with VSync on and still experience screen tearing try triple buffering. Most monitors support FreeSync and GSync these days, Just turn GSync on in NVIDIA control panel, doesn't matter which one you have. VSync or Tbuffering is not needed and obsolete.
3. I hope you removed that foam padding
4. Don't overclock if you don't exactly know what you are doing. (Default settings is recommended)

Conclusion:
I don't think anything is wrong with your PC, software these days could cause all sorts of unusual behaviour and lower utilisation is a good thing if you are getting the fps/latency/temps you wanted within reason. System security is always a factor as well. Keep monitoring and check for leaks often if you have a liquid AIO loop and pump. This was fun, let me know if anything happens and enjoy the new "rig".

;)

First of all, thank you for your help. But my point is that I cant get a smooth 60 fps experience lol no matter what setting or resolution I set. So either theres something wrong with the pc or im doing something wrong or because im using a tv and not a gaming monitor. I wish someone could actually see my screen to see what im talking about because I dont think anyone will know what I mean without seeing it.

[7IПFΉ_]

By smooth do you mean 60fps frame rate or it doesn't look smooth on the TV.
You know how to monitor the frame rate right?
If you mean it doesn't look smooth, try opting for a different HDMI cable or maybe a DP cable?
Did you enable VSync beacuse most TVs doesn't support GSync or FreeSync?

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

By smooth do you mean 60fps frame rate or it doesn't look smooth on the TV.
You know how to monitor the frame rate right?
If you mean it doesn't look smooth, try opting for a different HDMI cable or maybe a DP cable?
Did you enable VSync beacuse most TVs doesn't support GSync or FreeSync?

Yes my frametimes always spike on the graph in msi afterburner. The image is fine, but when those spikes happen it stutters and its really annoying to the point I dont want to play. Ive used vsync, My tv doesnt have gysnc. Thats more for screen tear anyway.

[7IПFΉ_]

Can you confirm that it's not your network that causes the stutters in this game?
Is it WIFI, Fibre, ADSL..
Test your upload and download speed.
Does this occur in offline games?

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

Can you confirm that it's not your network that causes the stutters in this game?
Is it WIFI, Fibre, ADSL..
Test your upload and download speed.
Does this occur in offline games?

Im connected by lan not wifi. When I tested the internet it says I have 94.46 mbps for upload and 94.74 for download and 10 ping. Idk if thats good or not.

[7IПFΉ_]

Network speed is not the problem.

[7IПFΉ_]

1. Open dxdiag, does it state that there is a problem and do the information appear to be correct.
2. Check if GPU driver is enabled and its not the Intel IGPU running in device manager.
3. Any hidden/unknown devices in device manager?
4. Run windows memory diagnostic.

If this does not provide insight, There may not be a lot of options left

[Charlie P]

引用自 7INFH_：

1. Open dxdiag, does it state that there is a problem and do the information appear to be correct.
2. Check if GPU driver is enabled and its not the Intel IGPU running in device manager.
3. Any hidden/unknown devices in device manager?
4. Run windows memory diagnostic.

If this does not provide insight, There may not be a lot of options left

1. Everything seems correct and all of them say no problems.
2.When I go into device manager and select display adapters, my gpu is the only thing there and it’s enabled.
3.Not sure about some stuff, but for the most part it seems normal.
4. Ran the diagnostic and there were no issues.