What are the minimum requirements for a steam review?

[Sevrin]

I thought it was 5 mins playtime but it doesn't seem to be that anymore if it was previously.
I just wanna leave a bad review before I get this game that won't launch refunded.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Sevrin:

I thought it was 5 mins playtime but it doesn't seem to be that anymore if it was previously.
I just wanna leave a bad review before I get this game that won't launch refunded.

You can only review a game you currently own on your account AND have at least 5 minutes of playtime.

Both conditions must be met.

[Sevrin]

10 minutes, I figured it out, it was 10 minutes. I launched the game 1000 times to get a few seconds at a time of playtime so I could leave the negative review (titanfall 2, it doesn't launch because EA's extremely unwelcome DRM is bugged out.)

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Sevrin:

10 minutes, I figured it out, it was 10 minutes. I launched the game 1000 times to get a few seconds at a time of playtime so I could leave the negative review (titanfall 2, it doesn't launch because EA's extremely unwelcome DRM is bugged out.)

It is only 5 minutes. Otherwise, there wouldn't be thousands of reviews with 0.1 hours of playtime in the store.

[Sevrin]

it wouldn't let me at 5 mins, the millisecond I hit 10 it did.
They probably changed it recently. Maybe after the overwatch 2 launch, in an attempt to protect awful companies like blizzard from the consequences of their actions.

[Crazy Tiger]

It's 5 minutes, a friend of mine just made a review after 6 minutes of playing a game.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Sevrin:

it wouldn't let me at 5 mins, the millisecond I hit 10 it did.
They probably changed it recently. Maybe after the overwatch 2 launch, in an attempt to protect awful companies like blizzard from the consequences of their actions.

Nope...

https://steamcommunity.com/id/mc-Hotsauce/recommended/835960/

[Sevrin]

Nope isn't a helpful reply actually. I promise you 100% my experience was that it wouldnt let me at 5 but did at 10. It wouldn't let me at 9, at 8, at 7, at 6. I refreshed, logged in and out. The instant I hit 10 mins I saw the review button pop up. So something else is happening if it's 5 for other people or other games. my experience was clear and extensive in this example. There's another factor at play here.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Sevrin:

it wouldn't let me at 5 mins, the millisecond I hit 10 it did.
They probably changed it recently. Maybe after the overwatch 2 launch, in an attempt to protect awful companies like blizzard from the consequences of their actions.

Nope...

https://steamcommunity.com/id/mc-Hotsauce/recommended/835960/

:summercat2023:

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Sevrin:

Nope isn't a helpful reply actually. I promise you 100% my experience was that it wouldnt let me at 5 but did at 10. It wouldn't let me at 9, at 8, at 7, at 6. I refreshed, logged in and out. The instant I hit 10 mins I saw the review button pop up. So something else is happening if it's 5 for other people or other games. my experience was clear and extensive in this example. There's another factor at play here.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nope...

https://steamcommunity.com/id/mc-Hotsauce/recommended/835960/

Did you go to the store page or library to wait for the review box?

[Sevrin]

library

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Sevrin:

library

That's why. It takes longer for the review box to show up in your library. Go to the store page next time to see it after 5 minutes.

[Χάρης]

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

Forcing people to choose between a refund and a review is heavily enti-consumer.

Besides, why should we need to run the game an arbitrary amount just because some people have issues with it?

If people want to review bomb, they'd idle the game anyway.

[Sevrin]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

A good review system ensures that no reviews are fake, but people can review for any reason they want. If people were creating fake accounts, buying a game, leaving a review, then refunding it and never using the account again, that would be a problem.
Telling when they are or are not allowed to dislike a game is not a good review system. Titanfall 2 earned my bad review despite me not having played it by implementing aggressive DRM that literally prevents me, a paying customer, from even playing the game at all.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

1. One of my favorite games of all time was an indie game with a story lasting about 4 hours. You saying I shouldn't be able to leave a review?
2. SAM exists. I don't know if it still works, but it used to be possible to run multiple instances of a game to rapidly idle playtime. I've seen profiles that had 1000 hours recent playtime in a week.

[Χάρης]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

Forcing people to choose between a refund and a review is heavily enti-consumer.

Besides, why should we need to run the game an arbitrary amount just because some people have issues with it?

If people want to review bomb, they'd idle the game anyway.

Yeah but they know they won't be getting their money back. So it is less likely that they will buy the game again on a different account to review bomb again. Because then it would start to cost them way more. It is not anti-consumer, it is preventing toxicity.

Originally posted by Sevrin:

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

A good review system ensures that no reviews are fake, but people can review for any reason they want. If people were creating fake accounts, buying a game, leaving a review, then refunding it and never using the account again, that would be a problem.
Telling when they are or are not allowed to dislike a game is not a good review system. Titanfall 2 earned my bad review despite me not having played it by implementing aggressive DRM that literally prevents me, a paying customer, from even playing the game at all.

I think this problem exists already (buying on different accounts and refunding).

Originally posted by Reaper:

Originally posted by Χάρης:

It's kinda weird that Steam lets you review a game with 5 mins of gameplay. It actually makes review bombing much easier due to the refund policy.

I'd say increase the gameplay time for reviews to 5 hours.

1. One of my favorite games of all time was an indie game with a story lasting about 4 hours. You saying I shouldn't be able to leave a review?
2. SAM exists. I don't know if it still works, but it used to be possible to run multiple instances of a game to rapidly idle playtime. I've seen profiles that had 1000 hours recent playtime in a week.

Then 3 hours, anything that is above the refund time.