Pending funds from selling items in community market.

[Ch0baNN]

This is like the 1000000th time I sell something a little bit lower price than the others so I can get FAST money to buy something else but noooo now I have to wait for TWO DAYS STEAM TWO DAYS SO I CAN GET MY MONEY because of this stupid system I'm tired of this . Oh I have a skin in CS:GO that I can sell and buy something in another game. No no no no you have to wait for TWO DAYS :))))))))))))). My question is when the f*** are you gonna fix this. I don't want to be held by some stupid system that doesn't even function properly.

[HakuKaiju]

I and many others feel your pain friend. There needs to be a change regarding this system. At least a change that makes it so it only affects those OVER-CHARGING for items on the market, not UNDER-CHARGING.

[nullable]

The system isn't to prevent overcharging or undercharging.

And it's not like scammers and such are overcharging for items. If they can evade the system by charging way less, they'll do that.

The problem does seem to be people trying to use the market solely to fund their Steam accounts. And if you're relying on instantaneous transactions, yeah that might be an inconvenience. Moving forward you're gonna have to plan ahead or use alternate FOPs for things you want to by immediately.

[Soldado21]

I got 4 planned sells to buy a game whose discount ends tomorrow. 3/4 were made sucefully but the last one is pending. Now I have to wait 1-2 days, and will probably miss this game sale. Men I love my luck

[Ch0baNN]

Originally posted by Soldado21:

I got 4 planned sells to buy a game whose discount ends tomorrow. 3/4 were made sucefully but the last one is pending. Now I have to wait 1-2 days, and will probably miss this game sale. Men I love my luck

exactly my friend I had to ask a friend to buy me a game yesterday that's why I'm making this post haha

[Ch0baNN]

Originally posted by nullable:

The system isn't to prevent overcharging or undercharging.

And it's not like scammers and such are overcharging for items. If they can evade the system by charging way less, they'll do that.

The problem does seem to be people trying to use the market solely to fund their Steam accounts. And if you're relying on instantaneous transactions, yeah that might be an inconvenience. Moving forward you're gonna have to plan ahead or use alternate FOPs for things you want to by immediately.

And where exactly is the problem with wanting to fund our steam accounts?????????????

[nullable]

Well see your original post. If your expectations is you can fund your Steam account as fast as you sell items, and you depend on all market transactions to be instant and they no longer always are, and that's the only way you fund your Steam account, that's a problem, right?

I'm not saying you're wrong to do that, I'm just saying that there's now a problem with that specific use case.

It's much less of an issue for people who don't rely solely or primarily on the speed of market transactions to fund their account.

Valve may not be inclined to change the system because a minority demographic finds it inconvenient. But I don't know, the system has changed a bunch over the years so adjustments may end up solving some of it. Changing what causes a transaction to be flagged may loosen somewhat. But I expect the pending system will probably remain, so it's bound to be an occasional pain point.

[HakuKaiju]

Originally posted by nullable:

Well see your original post. If your expectations is you can fund your Steam account as fast as you sell items, and you depend on all market transactions to be instant and they no longer always are, and that's the only way you fund your Steam account, that's a problem, right?

I'm not saying you're wrong to do that, I'm just saying that there's now a problem with that specific use case.

It's much less of an issue for people who don't rely solely or primarily on the speed of market transactions to fund their account.

Valve may not be inclined to change the system because a minority demographic finds it inconvenient. But I don't know, the system has changed a bunch over the years so adjustments may end up solving some of it. Changing what causes a transaction to be flagged may loosen somewhat. But I expect the pending system will probably remain, so it's bound to be an occasional pain point.

Your right about it being a pain point. I think personally though, that if this is how the system should be, they should go full boar so to speak, and have it apply to every purchase from the Steam Market, regardless of amount. Why not?

It could arguably lead to better moderation as a whole, and maybe discourage scammers from the market in greater quantities. As long as Steam makes a public announcement about it, I see no harm. I mean shoot, in my case, I've sold items at the "intended price" and still got my funds pended, so it practically already exists. I just want Steam and Valve to come clean about this system.

[BleedStack]

Same here, everything I sell is pending, its very fresh issue, hope they will fix it.

[Ch0baNN]

Originally posted by HakuKaiju:

Originally posted by nullable:

Well see your original post. If your expectations is you can fund your Steam account as fast as you sell items, and you depend on all market transactions to be instant and they no longer always are, and that's the only way you fund your Steam account, that's a problem, right?

I'm not saying you're wrong to do that, I'm just saying that there's now a problem with that specific use case.

It's much less of an issue for people who don't rely solely or primarily on the speed of market transactions to fund their account.

Valve may not be inclined to change the system because a minority demographic finds it inconvenient. But I don't know, the system has changed a bunch over the years so adjustments may end up solving some of it. Changing what causes a transaction to be flagged may loosen somewhat. But I expect the pending system will probably remain, so it's bound to be an occasional pain point.

Your right about it being a pain point. I think personally though, that if this is how the system should be, they should go full boar so to speak, and have it apply to every purchase from the Steam Market, regardless of amount. Why not?

It could arguably lead to better moderation as a whole, and maybe discourage scammers from the market in greater quantities. As long as Steam makes a public announcement about it, I see no harm. I mean shoot, in my case, I've sold items at the "intended price" and still got my funds pended, so it practically already exists. I just want Steam and Valve to come clean about this system.

Yes exactly what you said. At least if it's gonna happen go clean about it. That way I will know not to do it if I want instant money to buy something else. It's such a fcking pain man xdxdxd when you miss a promotion or something because of this.

[Ch0baNN]

Originally posted by nullable:

Well see your original post. If your expectations is you can fund your Steam account as fast as you sell items, and you depend on all market transactions to be instant and they no longer always are, and that's the only way you fund your Steam account, that's a problem, right?

I'm not saying you're wrong to do that, I'm just saying that there's now a problem with that specific use case.

It's much less of an issue for people who don't rely solely or primarily on the speed of market transactions to fund their account.

Valve may not be inclined to change the system because a minority demographic finds it inconvenient. But I don't know, the system has changed a bunch over the years so adjustments may end up solving some of it. Changing what causes a transaction to be flagged may loosen somewhat. But I expect the pending system will probably remain, so it's bound to be an occasional pain point.

What I'm asking is how is it a problem for Valve? Obviously it's a problem for me lol.

[nullable]

Originally posted by HakuKaiju:

Your right about it being a pain point. I think personally though, that if this is how the system should be, they should go full boar so to speak, and have it apply to every purchase from the Steam Market, regardless of amount. Why not? It could arguably lead to better moderation as a whole, and maybe discourage scammers from the market in greater quantities.

Valve has a better understanding of the issues and made an informed decision that not every transaction needs to be delayed. Clearly you have opinions, how exactly do your opinions measure up to Valve's expertise?

Being upset and having feelings might not put you on even footing, just saying.

Originally posted by HakuKaiju:

As long as Steam makes a public announcement about it, I see no harm. I mean shoot, in my case, I've sold items at the "intended price" and still got my funds pended, so it practically already exists. I just want Steam and Valve to come clean about this system.

They're not hiding anything. Users often wail that they weren't informed on their terms. Users don't often read news and updates notes until they're affected either. Someone will always pretend their ignorance amounts to a conspiracy.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Ch0baNN:

What I'm asking is how is it a problem for Valve? Obviously it's a problem for me lol.

Unhappy customers can be a problem. Sometimes it's unavoidable though. Valve probably knew your demographic would have opinions about it. And either you're worth so little as customers or you make up a small enough group they've decided to weather the uproar. However it's always possible for them to make a mistake and go to far on one thing. Sometimes you can never quite predict the scale of a reaction.

[heavenlyblacksheep]

Originally posted by Soldado21:

I got 4 planned sells to buy a game whose discount ends tomorrow. 3/4 were made sucefully but the last one is pending. Now I have to wait 1-2 days, and will probably miss this game sale. Men I love my luck

if you send in a ticket, they actually have an option that lets you try to repurchase a game you wanted with a discount, if you missed it by some technicality related to steam.

[Mike]

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