ok. 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:26
Trade Ban Appeal
Hi there,

I was trade banned permanently in 2015, and while I take full responsibility for my mistake, I have some reasons that I believe should mitigate the severity of the penalty. Firstly, the scam method that I was accused of involved extremely lowball offers for Counter-Strike GO items, often accompanied by messages like "accept trade and choose item from account x". Secondly, the only reason I created those trade offers was to respond in kind to identical lowball offers that I had received. Essentially, if a bot created a lowball trade offer for me, I would respond with a new trade offer with the same content. I made these trade offers purely as a form of edgy humor and frustration with the constant barrage of lowball offers.

Unfortunately, I currently do not have a way to contact Steam Support, as the support page does not lead me to a form where I can create tickets. Therefore, I am hoping to receive some guidance or assistance on how I can appeal the trade ban and potentially have it lifted. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time.
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Maria 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:29 
Frankly i dont know much about trade ban. But you can try your luck here:

Edit:
Found this :SakuraiEmi_ordinary: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961168214
最後修改者:Maria; 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:21
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:41 
There not much can do, you're free to make a ticket asking support to lift trade ban, but it very unlikely, and sincve it been almost decade it kind of iffy if they even bother at this point. Best of luck.

Also to add, support can see all trades, chat history, and etc that was done on the account if you give them any made up story they know because they have access to everything you did on Steam, hence why can't lie to them whom you trade with, what you said, and so on if all of it was recorded via Steam. Now it's likely they might not kept the data anymore for things over certain period of time, example like EU GDPR, which basically means this put you in a bad spot if support can't review old things for your case, which make it even more worse for you to lifting the ban, so any story you give, may just be consider as nothing to them as they have no way to confirm anything you claim if data removed, again in this case it been nearly 10 years since you been trade banned.

引用自 Maria
Frankly i dont know much about trade ban. But you can try your luck here:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpAccountDataQuestion

Edit:
Found this :SakuraiEmi_ordinary: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961168214
OP read guide for point 3 to 3.2 that for trade ban, that only thing that applies to you.
最後修改者:Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:47
Nx Machina 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:50 
引用自 ok.
Hi there,

I was trade banned permanently in 2015, and while I take full responsibility for my mistake, I have some reasons that I believe should mitigate the severity of the penalty. Firstly, the scam method that I was accused of involved extremely lowball offers for Counter-Strike GO items, often accompanied by messages like "accept trade and choose item from account x".

You admitted scamming others. Trade ban applied correctly.
Crazy Tiger 2023 年 4 月 12 日 上午 5:59 
There is no need to contact Support, your trade ban cannot be appealed and won't be removed. It's permanent and will remain so.

Yes, I'm blunt but that's because there is no point in giving you false hope.
ok. 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 3:58 
I want to thank everyone for their replies. While I agree with your opinions, I would like to clarify a few points.

引用自 Nx Machina
引用自 ok.
Hi there,

I was trade banned permanently in 2015, and while I take full responsibility for my mistake, I have some reasons that I believe should mitigate the severity of the penalty. Firstly, the scam method that I was accused of involved extremely lowball offers for Counter-Strike GO items, often accompanied by messages like "accept trade and choose item from account x".

You admitted scamming others. Trade ban applied correctly.

I take full responsibility for my mistake of making lowball offers in Counter-Strike GO trades. However, I want to make it clear that I never actually scammed anyone. I simply wrote messages within trade offers that could be seen as suspicious. While I accept the punishment for the attempt, I have never scammed anyone.

I agree with the opinion that the trade ban has been applied correctly, but I believe the severity of the penalty is extreme given the context of my actions.
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
There not much can do, you're free to make a ticket asking support to lift trade ban, but it very unlikely, and sincve it been almost decade it kind of iffy if they even bother at this point. Best of luck.

Also to add, support can see all trades, chat history, and etc that was done on the account if you give them any made up story they know because they have access to everything you did on Steam, hence why can't lie to them whom you trade with, what you said, and so on if all of it was recorded via Steam. Now it's likely they might not kept the data anymore for things over certain period of time, example like EU GDPR, which basically means this put you in a bad spot if support can't review old things for your case, which make it even more worse for you to lifting the ban, so any story you give, may just be consider as nothing to them as they have no way to confirm anything you claim if data removed, again in this case it been nearly 10 years since you been trade banned.

引用自 Maria
Frankly i dont know much about trade ban. But you can try your luck here:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpAccountDataQuestion

Edit:
Found this :SakuraiEmi_ordinary: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961168214
OP read guide for point 3 to 3.2 that for trade ban, that only thing that applies to you.

I am aware that it may be difficult to lift the ban after almost a decade, and that Steam support has access to all trades and chat history. I previously made a ticket shortly after the ban was applied, but was unsuccessful in arguing my case.

Thank you for the advice and guidance provided by the community members. I will consider making a support ticket using the link provided by Maria. I understand that Steam support may not have access to old data due to data retention policies, but I am willing to provide any evidence or information that may support my case.

Thank you again for your responses.
ok. 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:01 
In case you are wondering, I use ChatGPT to rewrite my English texts that have errors and improve them to proper English.
Cathulhu 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:02 
Your trade ban is permanent. Appealing is futile.
Even the attempt at scamming is punishable. Spamming lowball offers looking for fools to accept them is exactly what scammers do.
最後修改者:Cathulhu; 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:03
J4MESOX4D 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:06 
Permanent bans are permanent and time is not a factor for it to be removed. If Support started overturning bans of this nature years down the line then tens of thousands of scammers would make a return and not only that, be able to sell their inventories for financial gain which may have been obtained through malicious means.

Support have on record everything and this is retained just like how every piece of data from day one on your account is also. You admitted to scamming essentially so I'm not sure what information or evidence you can provide for any consideration of another fruitless appeal.
ok. 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:29 
As I mentioned earlier, while my responses were meant to be humorous, I understand that my behavior was inappropriate and accept some form of punishment. However, I believe that a permanent ban is too severe for my actions. My trade history can attest that my responses were only to scam offers I received, and I do not think that warrants a permanent ban. Furthermore, I do not think that my trade history was reviewed by a support member when I opened my first ticket.

I want to emphasize that my lowball offers were extremely exaggerated and should have been obviously received as a joke. I do not believe that my actions were malicious or intended to scam others. With that being said, I have opened a new support ticket in which I hope that my trade history will be reviewed by a support member.
Cathulhu 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:30 
Well, no one's laughting.
Nx Machina 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:53 
引用自 ok.
I take full responsibility for my mistake of making lowball offers in Counter-Strike GO trades. However, I want to make it clear that I never actually scammed anyone. I simply wrote messages within trade offers that could be seen as suspicious. While I accept the punishment for the attempt, I have never scammed anyone.

Except.

引用自 ok.
Hi there,
Firstly, the scam method that I was accused of involved extremely lowball offers for Counter-Strike GO items, often accompanied by messages like "accept trade and choose item from account x".

Extremely lowball offers + accept trade and choose item from account x. = scam.

引用自 ok.
I agree with the opinion that the trade ban has been applied correctly, but I believe the severity of the penalty is extreme given the context of my actions.

Support disagreed hence the severe penalty.
最後修改者:Nx Machina; 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:53
J4MESOX4D 2023 年 4 月 17 日 上午 5:51 
引用自 ok.
I want to emphasize that my lowball offers were extremely exaggerated and should have been obviously received as a joke. I do not believe that my actions were malicious or intended to scam others. With that being said, I have opened a new support ticket in which I hope that my trade history will be reviewed by a support member.
I fail to see how anything like that can be interpreted as a joke especially the people being harassed. You were spamming blank trade offers which require multiple clicks in the hope of catching someone off-guard. Lowballing spam was a huge problem on the platform back then so Support would've investigated complaints against your account and then taken the appropriate action. You also went on step further than the basic lowball offer by adding an element of deception to it so it was clearly a considered action done in a mass way to at least find one victim.
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