Downloading Causing Slow PC Performance

[KripTed]

When downloading on Steam. It causes slow performance on the desktop and PC. This is on Windows 11. It also causes music that is being played to skip and stutter as well.

[MancSoulja]

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Yeah. Reinstalling didn't do anything. I have no idea why it does this. It's like watching a slide show at times and even typing on the forums while downloading it stutters and skips, lags.

Temps?

[KripTed]

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Yeah. Reinstalling didn't do anything. I have no idea why it does this. It's like watching a slide show at times and even typing on the forums while downloading it stutters and skips, lags.

Temps?

Temps seem fine in MSI Afterburner. 30-50 Celsius max.

[KripTed]

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Nothing is out of the ordinary when checking the performance tab.

What did it show you when you were getting slowdowns. Was your C: drive being maxed out? Were any or all of your CPU cores maxed out?

If neither your SSD nor CPU were being maxed out when you're getting slowdowns, that would be disconcerting.

So I checked again.

While downloading is happening with Open Hardware Monitor.

CPU Cores 9-12 reach 100%.

[Satoru]

Steam downloads are heavy CPU and disk IO intensive

Meaning you have to look at Peformance Monitor and check if your CPU or Disk % utilixzation is saturated

It looks like your Efficiency core limited

[KripTed]

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Steam downloads are heavy CPU and disk IO intensive

Meaning you have to look at Peformance Monitor and check if your CPU or Disk % utilixzation is saturated

It seems the E cores are getting up to 100%.

It never did this before though on the old UI. So I don’t understand.

[Satoru]

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Steam downloads are heavy CPU and disk IO intensive

Meaning you have to look at Peformance Monitor and check if your CPU or Disk % utilixzation is saturated

It seems the E cores are getting up to 100%.

Note its a bit odd because even if steam is obliterating your efficiency cores, there are still the other cores available to do normal tasks. Meaning somehow all your programs are trying to use efficiency cores?

[KripTed]

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It seems the E cores are getting up to 100%.

Note its a bit odd because even if steam is obliterating your efficiency cores, there are still the other cores available to do normal tasks. Meaning somehow all your programs are trying to use efficiency cores?

It seems that the only cores being utilized when downloading were 9-12 which are the E cores.

[KripTed]

This is what's happening for the most part.

https://i.imgur.com/TuIxzTy.png

[Satoru]

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Note its a bit odd because even if steam is obliterating your efficiency cores, there are still the other cores available to do normal tasks. Meaning somehow all your programs are trying to use efficiency cores?

It seems that the only cores being utilized when downloading were 9-12 which are the E cores.

Which is fine, as I undertand it does that so the 'normal' cores can be used for gaming which are more performance based, while the lower performing ecores can be used for other tasks

The issue is more you're saying that when downloading that the entire system performance tanks. Even if steam downlaods were saturating all 4 e-cores. you still have 8 other perfomance cores that 'should' be used for other things

[KripTed]

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It seems that the only cores being utilized when downloading were 9-12 which are the E cores.

Which is fine, as I undertand it does that so the 'normal' cores can be used for gaming which are more performance based, while the lower performing ecores can be used for other tasks

The issue is more you're saying that when downloading that the entire system performance tanks. Even if steam downlaods were saturating all 4 e-cores. you still have 8 other perfomance cores that 'should' be used for other things

Yes. But this only happens on Steam. Only when downloading on Steam.

The entire system takes a dip for a split second or so. Almost as if it stutters. Even typing on the forums it will hitch. Using slide down panel options will lag like a slideshow and when doing things with the taskbar such as minimising and reopening the taskbar programs. Using Task manager also hitches and skips.

[KripTed]

I just disabled all E cores in my BIOS.

The issue is no longer present when downloading.

So I think Steam has an issue/bug utilising E cores and P cores when downloading.

[Iceira]

Try ccleaner cleaner junk files and check windows registation, not sure if its been mantions , but it seem to sturggle with performance , and also look like a OC pc that aient working as it should,
music that stutter aien't good, that has many side effect it's like interference then things get skipped or lack of resource then such behavier,

Do you know what you are saying, according to intel page E cores is intel turbo
and have been well tested over many years, maybe you lack the power or it this is your Brand board or brand name pc with its chipset driver, or it dont get the power it need try full performance

intel turbo has been use by laptop owner for so many years, cant even remember then it was iontroduced to laptop.

and thats why you need board supportm because if you are right in that, then all here i bet will scrates there heads,

only laptop i know for such throttle in cpu cycle and to my knowledge that dont mean anything i dont build pc, i just faulth finding on them, all of them in the past has been lack of power on laptop then it need its juice to perform. ( i mean you can only hope its that or they can find a mistake in it's software with it,


i have seen DL software with it, read and double check its for your system.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

Overview Information for Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000007359/processors/intel-core-processors.html
This is not going to be easy with all them diffrent Intel® Turbo Boost Technology version and what match your system


its normal work with windows, but not accoring to you. ( this is why i think you might want to ask board support.

you can try the intel app and see if they can fix your drivers also, but normal i will trust own board more. ( but lately its seen before all thirdpart hardware is better support at own hardware page. )
things is not so simple anymore.

[KripTed]

Postat inițial de Iceira W10:

Try ccleaner cleaner junk files and check windows registation, not sure if its been mantions , but it seem to sturggle with performance , and also look like a OC pc that aient working as it should,
music that stutter aien't good, that has many side effect it's like interference then things get skipped or lack of resource then such behavier,

Do you know what you are saying, according to intel page E cores is intel turbo
and have been well tested over many years, maybe you lack the power or it this is your Brand board or brand name pc with its chipset driver, or it dont get the power it need try full performance

intel turbo has been use by laptop owner for so many years, cant even remember then it was iontroduced to laptop.

and thats why you need board supportm because if you are right in that, then all here i bet will scrates there heads,

only laptop i know for such throttle in cpu cycle and to my knowledge that dont mean anything i dont build pc, i just faulth finding on them, all of them in the past has been lack of power on laptop then it need its juice to perform. ( i mean you can only hope its that or they can find a mistake in it's software with it,


i have seen DL software with it, read and double check its for your system.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

Overview Information for Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000007359/processors/intel-core-processors.html
This is not going to be easy with all them diffrent Intel® Turbo Boost Technology version and what match your system


its normal work with windows, but not accoring to you. ( this is why i think you might want to ask board support.

you can try the intel app and see if they can fix your drivers also, but normal i will trust own board more. ( but lately its seen before all thirdpart hardware is better support at own hardware page. )
things is not so simple anymore.

The problem is with E cores and how it's being utilised with Steam.

Thanks for the suggestions. I have solved this problem by disabling E cores in the BIOS.

No other platform and or program is causing any other degraded performance. It could be a BIOS issue since there was a recent BIOS update. I have posted on the MSI forums and the Intel forums on Reddit as well.

This is either a Steam, Windows or a BIOS issue. Considering the issue wasn't present before Steam's newest UI update, everyday Windows Updates and BIOS updates.

One of them is the culprit. Since it's only doing it with Steam. I assume it's strictly Steam's fault and how it's utilising E and P cores. No other program and everyday tasks are effected.

[Iceira]

yeah exatly as you should let board support deal with it, but do let them read what i said, because so many of them dont see Full performance issue on a desktop and they are right , i learn that from laptop, where intel boost kick in and crash to desktop 10+ years ago, and all work then i use full performance on the laptop. so its complicated as hell, then you dont think power scematic can do such. i can also say like this aient it support job to figure no matter what power scematic is. lol ( work both ways )

and 10+ years ago ppl did not know what the hell is going on and google could not find sand in sahara. ( not google problem ) but you know what i mean looking for something no other have notice yet.

[KripTed]

Postat inițial de Iceira W10:

yeah exatly as you should let board support deal with it, but do let them read what i said, because so many of them dont see Full performance issue on a desktop and they are right , i learn that from laptop, where intel boost kick in and crash to desktop 10+ years ago, and all work then i use full performance on the laptop. so its complaicated as hell, then you dotnb think power scematic can do such. i can also say like this aient it support job to figure no matter what power scematic is. lol ( work both ways )

Well I made the information present on several platforms, Intel, MSI and Steam. Maybe one of them can look into it. I never had an issue before, it just recently started. I never had any issues with Intel Turbo Boost either. Every other task and function is performing as it's suppose to, except downloading on Steam with E cores enabled. I personally think it's a bug somewhere in Steam's newest UI or a BIOS update since their recent update was to support next gen CPU.