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So I am curious if you could link to the £500 GBP~ NVMe SSDs you're looking at I'd be curious to see. Maybe there's some better options. If the issue is you need a large amount of storage space you could run a large HDD for storage that's not extremely disk performance dependent. As long as the OS drive is a SSD that will get you a lot of performance overall. Lots of things will be just fine on a slower HDD, and as a secondary drive the HDD's IO limitations won't be too big of a bottleneck.
There might be some better options for your use cases.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/6wv6Mp/great-amd-gaming-build
I mean you can build a decent mid-range AMD system for less than 1000 GBP
The 1TB Crucial SSD is QLC yes but its still less than 50GBP
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7nXJ7P/crucial-p5-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p5pssd8
If they want TLC , its 60GBP for 1TB
Like I have no idea where they are getting these absurd build costs from
Even if you don't want to build your own system, which I get, ok then the most egregious system even from Alienware with a 4090 is 3500GBP
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktop-computers/alienware-aurora-r15-gaming-desktop/spd/alienware-aurora-r15-amd-desktop/dawr15a02
Get a prebuilt next day free shipping from Overclockers UK with a 4080 for 2600gbp
https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/infinity-139-4080-next-day-pc
Well it would be a nice to have sure. But it's not a requirement. I mean I'm as pro SSD , SATA or NVMe as anyone, I haven't bought a HDD since 2013. Unless your machine strictly depends on the highest disk performance possible a good Gen4 NVMe will work just as well in 99.99% of use cases. And even a midrange Gen4 NVMe would be more than enough for most users.
I mean you do you, if you're determined to spend that money that's fine, I'm not trying to talk you out of it. I was spending hundreds of dollars on SSDs years ago so I get it. I'm just saying a more modest NVMe will serve you just as well, in case you didn't know.
If you claim your system is too old to run Windows 10, surely any low-midrange modern option is going to be a vast improvement? So why all this talk of £1000+ motherboards?
Also as has been mentioned already, Windows 10 has the same requirements as 7 so if it's not installing for you, it's probably not an age issue but something else.
Is it a vital component for gaming?
You could perhaps set up some sort of dual boot with legacy Windows there for when you need to do whatever work it is that requires it.
What component even is this? A component that Windows 10 doesn't recognise wouldn't just cause it to refuse to install, at worst it'd just ignore it.
I haven't had an optical drive in a system since 2018 when I retired my 2013 build. So if it were me, and I really needed a drive in 2023 I'd just get on my favorite parts site, look for blu-ray drives and order by highest rated and get the highest rated one.
As far as I know all internal blu-ray drives are gonna be 5.25 inches due to the size of the discs. Naturally if you find a contrary example, don't buy that one.
I guess that leans into my legacy hardware claim.
To clarify, the playback of 4K blu-ray doesn't work outside of very specific system configurations.
CPU must be Intel 7th to 10th gen.
Display must be plugged into Intel graphics with HDCP 2.2 support. Plugging the screen into Nvidia or AMD will not work.
Windows 10 required.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray ("4K blu-ray")
I mean what are you using the blu-ray drive for? I think you'd only concern yourself with UHD Blu-ray if you wanted to play 4K blu-ray content. I think the support Marble is talking about is video playback of licensed content. Rather than raw support for the optical format as a data backup. Although I'm hardly an expert on the subject having given up on the format ages ago, so you'd want to do some additional research.
If you're burning blu-ray disks that may be less of an issue, just stick with a standard blu-ray drive or something and continue on.
Well sounds like you might be on the hook to get a 4k blu-ray player (like a TV one). Although whether or not there's workarounds or additional hardware that can give you support, or whatever caveats there may take some more research.
Marble may be right on the money. But I also wouldn't necessarily give up hope because one guy claims something without citing sources.
Although I did find this: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000089271/intel-nuc.html but there may be a bit more to it. And it's hardly fully exhausts all options.
You would still be able to play 1080p blu-ray content and a lot of 4k blu-ray discs contain 1080p content also for compatibility, from what I was skimming. 1080p content shouldn't disrupt your workflow that much... at least I could live with it.
I'm not disputing anything, but I'm a trust but verify type of guy, especially when I'm midstream learning about the details of the current state of tech I stopped using ages ago, or haven't used on a modern platform.
if you're using it to do rendering you can't sit there and complain. This is like joining Le Mans and then whining your Eastern German car isn't cutting it. Your existing system doesn't even meet the nonsensical requirements you're throwing out. You can't whine about "I can't upgrade" when you're complaining about not being able to buy a Bugatti because you have a Ford Fiesta
There will be workarounds that involve stripping the DRM out of the disc and converting it, how easy that is for UHD blurays I don't know, but it's been a thing for regular ones for a while now.
In terms of hardware support, it requires SGX CPU instruction sets. If your CPU does not have this, then it won't work. SGX was deprecated on Intel CPU's from 11th gen onwards, there are plenty of news articles on this and most of them also state this basically is the death knell for 4K blu-rays on PC. AMD has never released a CPU with SGX.
The only CPU's that still support SGX are Xeon's, which do not have integrated graphics so are still not a viable solution.