Windows 7 Users - What are we meant to do?

[AGT_ZURU]

So, with the Announcement of Windows 7 being no longer supported by Steam, and with the other Windows Operating Systems being a complete NO-GO, what do I do?

I am going to have to buy a completely new Computer, as my Hardware is basically classed as being too 'Old' to be compatible (Stable) with other Operating Systems.



With this, what Alternatives are available for someone who's used to using a Windows 7, but where moving to Windows 10, or 11 is just not an option?

I tried looking at getting a completely bare-bones version of Windows 10... This didn't go well at all. I tried Installing a normal Version on a Laptop... As a fresh Install... Long story short, the Laptop had a Date with the Wall.

So, what are the best Options for me?

[Ettanin]

You could migrate to Linux. Steam has Windows game support for many games through Proton.

[[DSD]DukeNukem]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

Ettanin님이 먼저 게시:

You could migrate to Linux. Steam has Windows game support for many games through Proton.

OK, but there are so many incarnations of Linux, which one would be best for the most recognisable experience?

Also note: This would be as a Main Replacement, so would need to be compatible with all Windows Applications that I have.

Sadly most windows software doesn't run on linux. So you will need to find alternative free and open source software that runs on linux, or will have to do a dual boot W7- linux where you use linux to play on steam if games are compatible, and keep W7 for your softwares.
I personnaly resigned, and will make a new pc under W10 by the end of the year, and will need a week to optimize it, remove spyware/bloatware, and bring back as much as I can W7 interface.

[Azure Fang]

You don't need to buy new hardware. Windows 10 has the exact same system requirements and resource footprint as Windows 7. If your PC can run 7, it can run 10.

[KalGimpa]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

DSDDukeNukem님이 먼저 게시:

Sadly most windows software doesn't run on linux. So you will need to find alternative free and open source software that runs on linux, or will have to do a dual boot W7- linux where you use linux to play on steam if games are compatible, and keep W7 for your softwares.
I personnaly resigned, and will make a new pc under W10 by the end of the year, and will need a week to optimize it, remove spyware/bloatware, and bring back as much as I can W7 interface.

I will admit, I found the process very complicated, I'm just too old to be putting up with this S###. The User Interface of Windows 10 is so different, that I can't find any resemblance to be fair. I've actually taken to calling them Microsoft Bindows 10, and Bindows 11 respectively. I've even told Microsoft about this, as it's a real issue.

I tried asking Microsoft for a 'Clean' Version of Windows, but they wouldn't supply one. Not even a Stripped Down version or Alpha Build, or even a Beta Build. Nothing, just their B###S### Version that I just can't work with.

Still looking around, and while there is things like ReactOS, that has its own issues. The search continues.

that is the price we pay for going all in with one company

the people who start them

with the high ideals and all

are not always going to be there and money will always be the winner

i jumped off the ms ship and am using manjaro and mint

linux has come a long ways

play around with a few distros, though

use the info out there to find the one that will work for your needs

[Haruspex]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

I tried Installing a normal Version on a Laptop... As a fresh Install... Long story short, the Laptop had a Date with the Wall.

So, what are the best Options for me?

You should probably talk to somebody about your rage issues.

[KalGimpa]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

Azure Fang님이 먼저 게시:

You don't need to buy new hardware. Windows 10 has the exact same system requirements and resource footprint as Windows 7. If your PC can run 7, it can run 10.

It can't, refused to Install, period.

Harusp3x님이 먼저 게시:

You should probably talk to somebody about your rage issues.

Well, that as may be, though it's been a while since I've thrown anything at a Wall (or Floor). It was more of an issue with the thing doing stuff that it thought it had heard, and thus, the only way to stop it, was to break it. Unfortunately, the Battery can't be easily removed or Ejected in a hurry.

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

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For someone who's a bit set in ones ways, too old to be faffing about, just looking for something I can use easily, and without too many issues. Recommendations?

i mean

it all depends on how much you do know

anything you move to from win 7 is going to be different

there are many that are close to the gui

but there will be things to learn

win 10/11 both have 3rd party programs that will turn the desktop back into a 7 clone

you will not be able to escape the direction they are going

"under the hood"

so to speak,

but that fight was lost long ago

linux is much easier than before

but you will have to learn some new things

[nullable]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

Windows 7 Users - What are we meant to do?

Upgrade. Eventually if your PC is that old where the next version of Windows is not an option (so barely running Windows 7 then?) the writing is on the wall and you'll have to upgrade. Waiting to upgrade until it's some kinda of catastrophe is a self-inflicted injury I'd argue.

And even if it wasn't Steam, it would be something else. Support ends and either you live with jumping through more and more hoops on an obsolete system or you bite the bullet and upgrade. And if upgrade means a whole new system so be it.

Someone running a 14 year old system just isn't a prime demographic for modern services.

[Nx Machina]

Speaking as someone who originally installed Windows 10 x64 over Windows 7 x64 install on a system with a Phenom II 955 Black Edition, Radeon HD5870, 8GB Ram and HDD's only, i can state every game from the Win 7 era ran on that PC with zero issues.

[Haruspex]

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

i mean

it all depends on how much you do know

anything you move to from win 7 is going to be different

there are many that are close to the gui

but there will be things to learn

win 10/11 both have 3rd party programs that will turn the desktop back into a 7 clone

you will not be able to escape the direction they are going

"under the hood"

so to speak,

but that fight was lost long ago

linux is much easier than before

but you will have to learn some new things

Your weird use of line breaks in place of punctuation is off putting, but if one can get past that there is wisdom in those words.

[Longy999]

My man, where did you get £7000 plus labour for a modern pc from? The last 2 rigs I built that were up-to-date at the time cost half of that and that was buying premium parts, you can get one way, way cheaper than that

If you're in the market and don't have the know how to build yourself then check out pre-built options from places such as Scan and Overclockers uk

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Longy999님이 먼저 게시:

My man, where did you get £7000 plus labour for a modern pc from? The last 2 rigs I built that were up-to-date at the time cost half of that

If you're in the market and don't have the know how to build yourself then check out pre-built options from places such as Scan and Overclockers uk

You can build your own gaming PC, near top of the line for under $2,500. A budget rig runs around likely a grand. So NO idea where he got 7k.

[KalGimpa]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

Longy999님이 먼저 게시:

My man, where did you get £7000 plus labour for a modern pc from? The last 2 rigs I built that were up-to-date at the time cost half of that

If you're in the market and don't have the know how to build yourself then check out pre-built options from places such as Scan and Overclockers uk

A Pre-Built System simply doesn't meet the requirements of what I'm looking for. Also, I have to be specific about every component that's going into the System.



Estimated Costs being as follows (Currency in GBP)...

Motherboard: £1,200~
Graphics Card: £1,800~
Two Components, that's £3,000 GBP on their own...

I could go on, but you should be able to see the problem from just that to start with...

if you need a £1,200 motherboard

you are using it for business purposes

for that, there are win 10 and 11 variants

if the problem is that you do not have the money to update

that means it is probably time to reinvest into that business

small loans and the like

[Azure Fang]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

if you need a £1,200 motherboard
you are using it for business purposes
for that, there are win 10 and 11 variants
if the problem is that you do not have the money to update
that means it is probably time to reinvest into that business
small loans and the like

Running as an Independent, and the Motherboard isn't classed as being suited as a Work Station Motherboard, as those are actually over £10,000 just for the Motherboard on its own.

Did you add an extra zero there? I have never, in all my years, heard of a consumer motherboard costing $10,000 or pound sterling equivalent.

[nullable]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

The question is, 'Upgrade' to what?

Whatever you want, preferably something from this decade I suppose.

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

I understand that I'm looking at a bill of over £7,000 GBP for a new Build, and that's not even taking the Labour into account. This is something I'm aware of, so the only question that is left is, what do I use as the Replacement?

I'm not in touch with hardware costs in the UK, but £7,000 GBP seems like an exaggeration. I would be skeptical if you HAD to spend that much. What are you shooting for that's driving the costs up that much?

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

Should I wait for Windows 12, and just Hope that they don't F### it up (again), or do I boycott them all together and never look back?

Nothing wrong with Windows 11 in my experience. I typically don't upgrade to the newest version of Windows until it's been out a year, or at least a few months to get over initially growing pains or until drivers for things are widely available.

I mean the same people who hate Windows 11 and that's why you're not considering it are going to hate Windows 12. And if that's the bandwagon you want to be on, you have several months to consider your Linux options. I do see Mint bandied about a lot these days, but if you want someone just to tell you what to do, go get on a Linux forum and ask or just google the top migrating to Linux/Steam guide on google an go with that.

But if your requirement is that all your Windows software works as is, then you're really kinda boxing yourself into Windows. And if you refuse to use a current version of Windows you're kinda boxing yourself out of PC's and PC gaming. Creating an impossible scenario isn't going to get you any sort of solution. it's not going to convince Valve to keep supporting Windows 7 if that's what you secretly hope.

[KalGimpa]

AGT_ZURU님이 먼저 게시:

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

if you need a £1,200 motherboard
you are using it for business purposes
for that, there are win 10 and 11 variants
if the problem is that you do not have the money to update
that means it is probably time to reinvest into that business
small loans and the like

Running as an Independent, and the Motherboard isn't classed as being suited as a Work Station Motherboard, as those are actually over £10,000 just for the Motherboard on its own.



Motherboard that I'm looking at:
Manufacturer: MSI
Chipset: X670E
Model: GODLIKE
Current Price: £1,400 GBP~ (Plus Import Costs)

The Second Option, is the cheaper Version with 6 SATA Ports instead of 8.
Model: ACE
Current Price: IGNORE
Bundle Price WITH CPU: £1,400 GBP~ Limited Time Offer Current



GPU has come down by £200 GBP since I last checked, so that's nice.

i was assuming small business

what board you are looking at does not help by itself

what are you doing with it?

edit:

beyond that

just invest in a separate gaming pc

you can build one for a fraction of the price