Lucky Jan 10, 2023 @ 7:38am
STEAM ANTI GAME SHARING ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE (APPS).
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Brian9824 Jan 10, 2023 @ 7:47am 
None of what you wrote is remotely accurate with how steam operates, and the error you posted is a game specific error with nothing at all to do with steam - https://steamcommunity.com/app/808910/discussions/0/1742232339933014623/
Bonus! Jan 10, 2023 @ 8:32am 
It shouldn't be allowed for someone to type this much garbage at once.
Originally posted by lucky:
When my Steam games get disabled they won't work at all until I completely wipe my hard disk, using an extremely thorough formatting utility, like the software you get that writes 0's & 1's until all the data is written over (without using the name here). (I have a short cut though, and this example is just to illustrate the level of formatting that must be done, or the hours of Windows reinstallation will be wasted and worthless.)

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The only additional comment about that I can make, is that when I was playing a retro game, it went wrong after I disconnected the hard drive where the games were saved, and the retro game as well as another game were DISABLED until I formatted the hard drive, and started over.
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Sidenote:
If you need to format with "write over the whole drive with 0 and 1",
to remove something from being loaded into a new windows installation,
you have a serious virus on that computer.
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Anyway about your steam problem,
you should install your games on an internal hard drive, but most importantly, do not disconnect a drive with a game on it. It can happen that steam will not see it again, until you fix it. If you started steam without that drive, or when you disconnect it while steam runs.
But not with writing 0 and 1 all over the drive. And you dont need to "streamline such a format and windows installation".

Instead of describing your problem by WHEN it happens, you made up names and "features" to explain to us how our steam does not work, while it does?
Callahan420 Jan 11, 2023 @ 1:23am 
I use 2 different PC's and a Steam deck with none of the problems listed above. I also only browse the store and forums on a web browser and only use the client to launch games. No problem with steam authenticator while doing so.
HikariLight Jan 11, 2023 @ 3:52am 
Sounds like 'Fatal User Error'.
OP did something they shouldn't have and it broke things.
Just because something doesn't work does not mean the system is at fault, sometimes it is the user's fault.
MagicMight Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:28am 
If this word vomit was a trolling attempt then well done, though I think you overdid it because none will have read past the 1/4th mark of your post.

If you actually believe what you are writing. Forget this post and the discussion here. Just get a friend who is competent with PCs to show you the ropes. Because half the things you are spouting make no sense at all.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Jan 11, 2023 @ 5:37am 
OMG these false info & red flag from OP. Here wall of text reply.

Originally posted by lucky:
I've been looking into why my Steam games go wrong from time to time, which results in my Steam games stopping working, and where no recourse short of a total 0's & 1's FORMAT, and clean Windows Operating System installation can fix my Steam installation!

When my Steam games get disabled they won't work at all until I completely wipe my hard disk, using an extremely thorough formatting utility, like the software you get that writes 0's & 1's until all the data is written over (without using the name here). (I have a short cut though, and this example is just to illustrate the level of formatting that must be done, or the hours of Windows reinstallation will be wasted and worthless.)
If a game is corrupted you can use verify game files, or if you did something to the game to cause game not to work, then should look into what you did, if you use mods, again you should review what mod did you installed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMff-gLbb0

Originally posted by lucky:
There are various ways that your Steam games amd installation (download) can become damaged. Only the other day I was using VRChat when someone kindly nuked me out of the program with a virus. Nothing would work after that, and I had to resort to yet another 0's & 1's format. I then did another clean Windows Operating System installation, and everything then worked again.
If something is deleting, or corrupting your files, either you have a virus, your anti virus is doing something dumb by deleting files it shouldn't be deleting, or you have a failing drive, or did something to cause this problem.

So if you're installing mods you have no understanding what it does, which there is malicious files that does happen with VRChat grant permission to those with malicious intent, and most of it was revoked by official side of things, so if you went out of your way to install things, you're responsible for what happens. You can hear about the huge backlash when VRChat made major changes to their game when they broke a ton of mods.

Now if there is a new exploit you report it to VRChat devs, or it VRchat community, this is the steam forum, not VRchat.

Originally posted by lucky:
So I've been looking at why this happens? I don't think I can attach screen shots here. But what happens is, I kept getting pop-ups from Steam which seemed to damage my computer. They seemed to be related to the Steam installation (download) itself; and not some rogue program you get from clicking on something like, ‘I ACCEPT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE!’.
You can use imgur, or upload as steam artwork. Also Steam isn't trying to do anything to you it's 3rd party software, but AGAIN if you did something, install stuff you have no understanding what it about you need to be responsible for your own action. Steam, or anyone can't babysit you, nor will they take responsibility for things you have done out of your own way.

Originally posted by lucky:
One of the pop ups is labeled ‘STEAM CLIENT SERVICE’. This is shortly followed by another pop up labeled ‘RDROID_GNOME RELEASE BUILD’. Shortly after the pop-ups appear, the start screens on some of my games go yellow, and some of my Steam games stopped working (permanently). There is nothing you can do. Using Windows recovery or deleting any files will not make any difference. You have to do a FULL FORMAT & WINDOWS INSTALLATION; nothing else works.
Seem like game related issue, but I don't know your story truely let alone what you really done on your PC. So if you're doing something you shouldn't be doing, it time to stop doing the thing that causing you the problem. If you know exact thing that causing issue only you ask in that said community for answers if anyone had same issue. But this scream to me you did something so I don't know what to tell you.


Originally posted by lucky:
So why does this happen? Many of you will know that Steam has an enforcement program to stop GAME SHARING; even where this is on the same household network, but on a different computer.
Family sharing is used to share library, but can't allow more than one party member to use someone else library at same time, and you can't launch games that shared library with, that means if someone share library with you, you can't launch their games if you gone offline mode, you can only launch your own games in offline mode.

A) Bob play bob games, and Jim play jim games, there no issue.
B) Bob play jim games, and jim launch jim games, what happens bob get kick out of jim game with a 5 minutes warning before kicked.
C) Bob play bob games, and jim try to launch bob games while bob is playing, jim get a notification that bob is playing, and can't launch.

Hence the point only one person can play from a shared library.

If you refund a game, or game key you claim was revoked, of course you lose access to the game, you don't get to keep it, so unless you don't want to lose access to the game, don't refund the game, nor buy game keys from scammers online.

Games that rely on internet access, you may not be able to play because it rely on internet access to connect to online server, hence don't go offline for that said game that need access to a server to work.

Originally posted by lucky:
What I believe happens is that some kind of enforcement software detects and stops the alleged game sharing (albeit in the same household, that spent lots of money on Steam games). The Steam (Guard) or enforcement then DISABLES the offending computers game(s); but does not provide any REMEDIAL RECOURSE ACTION, to enable to user to continue using their Steam game(s), having been successfully WARNED NOT TO SHARE THEIR GAMES (except in FAMILY VIEW)!
False, because if you haven't notice there people who spend into thousands to tens of thousands of dollars, and not once that even happen if you haven't notice which no one is affected because they spent too much to play the games they already bought.

So either you were family sharing, and lost access, you refunded, and tried to play it for free, or etc...

Originally posted by lucky:
The trouble with this is that the STEAM ENFORECEMENT SOFTWARE (pop-up apps) damage your STEAM GAMES & STEAM INSTALLATION to such an extent, there is nothing you can do except format your hard disk again, and start over. It may be that only one or two games are affected. Nevertheless, a full format and Windows installation is the only way I have been able to fix my affected Steam game(s) (and or installation).
No, what it seem like you're trying to demand free access to games that you didn't pay for, and that won't happen, and no it not doing what you're claim it not damaging anything if you have notice that not happening to anyone OUT OF MILLIONS OF USERS. As all your claim seem BS so far.

Originally posted by lucky:
The enforcement software has a harsh extrajudicial overview that seems to act with impunity regarding Steam's paying customer’s right to fair-use of the games software they purchased. Indeed, the offender(s) may have intended to set up their FAMILY VIEW properly (in SETTINGS) so as not to set off the Steam Guard. On the other hand, they may well have simply set off the Steam guard from the many other reasons it seems to activate and damage people's accounts without a good reason; albeit by the arbitrary (or random) nature of Steam’s enforcement software.
Now you're making crap up, Steam is not stopping anyone from playing their games, because they spent to much as you claimed, that not even how that works.

If you play with family view, and set it up to stop you from doing things that your own fault, hence that it is AKA parental control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_controls

Originally posted by lucky:
There doesn't seem to be any intended time limit to the penalty issued by Steam's enforcement process. On the contrary, it seems that Steam's ANTI-GAME-SHARING enforcement program is acting with impunity, and operating out of the scope of Steam's management. Indeed, customers who complain to Steam's SUPPORT about their games or Steam installation being in a DISABLED state are just shrugged off with no explanation, because the people in Steam SUPPORT don't appear to have any knowledge or training regarding Steam's ANTI-GAME-SHARING enforcement program.
I explain how family sharing worked look above about bob, and jim example.

Originally posted by lucky:
I have no further information on this yet? I am hoping the discussion forums here will help me better present this problem to Steam. The only additional comment about that I can make, is that when I was playing a retro game, it went wrong after I disconnected the hard drive where the games were saved, and the retro game as well as another game were DISABLED until I formatted the hard drive, and started over. The point here, is that we know that Steam's anti game sharing enforcement program is not the only reason that Steam games and the Steam installation (download) are being corrupted.
if you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing that something you need to realize that by keep doing the same problem doesn't magically fix it whatever you're trying to do, and so far you're not really honest here what you been doing, so I doubt what you say is a Steam problem that you have to reformat your PC.

Originally posted by lucky:
In this case it was not so much as Steam's enforcement software has DISABLED my games or Steam installation; but it is more to do with the higher security of Windows 11 that converts my filing system to XML and all sorts of high security stuff. It's not that Steam's enforcement software hasn't inadvertently damaged my games, because IT HAS, AND ON MANY OCCASIONS! But we also know there are many other ways to corrupt the games or the Steam installation (download).
Yeah, sorry I don't think this is a Windows 11 problem either or else everyone on W11 be having the problem, so there seem to be more to the story you're not telling here.

Originally posted by lucky:
What I am trying to say is; due to the way the Steam installation (download) is offered to the public; when Windows 11 converts the Steam download to XML, THERE IS NO WAY TO MEND THE INSTALLATION, SHORT OF A FULL FORMAT & WINDOWS INSTALLATION!
Bud you're the only person out of the whole user base for Windows 11 that claiming this mate that 28% of the whole user base using W11, the other % is for other OS such as linux, W10, W8, and so on. So again there seem to be more to the story you're not telling here. For all I know you may have corrupted install of the OS, or you did something to cause the problem.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Originally posted by lucky:
In short, the Steam download cannot be fixed, recovered, deleted and re-downloaded in order to make it fully functional again; because the files that remain on your computer after you e.g. delete the installation, prevent it from recovery, even with a brand new download. (This may also be partly caused by the users own Windows Operating system, although this is not a reason why a brand new Steam installation should not work!). The only way to get DISABLED games going again is to completely wipe the hard drive.
Yeah something clearly tell me you're doing something, you're not telling the whole picture here.

Originally posted by lucky:
But this is even more unacceptable when Steam's ANTI-GAME-SHARING enforcement program is PERMANENTLY DISABLING GAMES FOR ALLEGED ANTI GAME SHARING whilst acting with impunity regarding the presence of this technology.
Sorry unless you refund game, game got revoked for stolen key, family share revoked, or trying to use it in offline mode, or etc....

Originally posted by lucky:
This is preventing untold numbers of Steam customers from enjoying their purchases. Indeed they may well walk away from Steam, and will never use Steam again until they realize the anomaly which has damaged their game(s); and indeed, they format their hard drive with 0's & 1's etc.
Bud you're only person making these claims that I ever seen, when people have problems their issue is WAY OFF from your story that you're making claims.

- You claim if you spent too much you lose access.
- You claim it Steam system damaging your game, and OS.
- You claim Windows 11 breaking Steam.

Your story is not holding up well, let alone being honest what you're telling here, and you admit that something happen via VRChat, and for that to happen means you did unofficial things to your game, hence the exploit that was patched in the past which requires using certain mods that were blocked for those reasons.
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Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Jan 11, 2023 @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by lucky:
Going forward, Steam users are supposed to be able to legally use their games software on several computers on their HOME NETWORK using something Steam call FAMILY VIEW.
WRONG family view is parental control, that what it is.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6B1A-66BE-E911-3D98

Originally posted by lucky:
You may like to quickly browse your own SETTINGS up in the top left of your STEAM INSTALLATION (program), not the browser login. There it details Steam's FAMILY VIEW.
Again if you done something to cause yourself problems that your own fault.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6B1A-66BE-E911-3D98


Originally posted by lucky:
I tried to use FAMILY VIEW and it just made matters worse. Not only was I completely confused as to what computer (of two I use) was in FAMILY VIEW. I then could not get out of FAMILY VIEW. This then set off the STEAM GUARD on my dedicated gaming computer.
You setup family view with code...
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6B1A-66BE-E911-3D98


Originally posted by lucky:
Overall FAMILY VIEW is not yet an answer to ANTI GAME SHARING. In my view it badly needs developing, or indeed scrapping in favour of using your own games freely on your own network. In my view FAMILY VIEW is too difficult to set up, and just led to my game(s) being DISABLED by the Steam Guard, or whatever it's called.
Well clearly you didn't even look up what it about to begin with.


Originally posted by lucky:
Indeed, what is all the fuss about with people SHARING LEGALLY PURCHASED GAMES in the same household and therefore on the same network. The said household has legally purchased their games from Steam. I therefore find it incredulous that the aforesaid household is having their legally purchased games DISABLED by Steam's anti game sharing enforcement program.
You bought a subscription license, not IP rights.
https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/?snr=100601_44_44

I suggest read the terms before buying, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, GoG, EGS, Steam, etc all sell you subscription license, not ownership of IP. To explain better you are entitle to having access AS LONG you have the subscription license tied to account you own that it.

Originally posted by lucky:
This is ludicrous, and when in my view, users need to be able to use WHAT ARE THEIR OWN GAMES, on another computer for reasons I already detailed, like, they mostly use a dedicated games computer; but sometimes use another computer as well, albeit for a variety of reasons which might include: a less private computer for family use, and so on....
Steam can be installed on another PC without issue, they're not stopping you, the issue is if you did something to cause yourself problems that a you problem, not Steam problem, that like blaming car manufacturer for causing the problem, despite the fact you replace parts in it that cause problems that were not meant for your car, but hey let keep pointing fingers, and not admit to own faults that may likely have cause it in the 1st place.

Originally posted by lucky:
(I ASK STEAM) - Steam, please stop penalizing your paying customers, by DISABLING our games with your anti game sharing enforcement programs. We paid for the games, so we should be able to play them on any computer on the same network, albeit with our customer login. Steam, if you please, FAMILY VIEW doesn't work, it's too rigid for ordinary people, and too difficult to set up.
Steam not gonna allow you free ride to pirating games, so good try with wall of text.

Originally posted by lucky:
I am very much disappointed with my long term use of the STEAM INSTALLATION (program). I have had to FORMAT & RE-INSTALL WINDOWS so many times I am now becoming exasperated. The only good thing that has come of this for me, is that I have somewhat streamlined the formatting and Windows setup process to a much less painful process, and I only use Steam on one dedicated computer including the Steam-browser (or internet view). This will hopefully stop some of the conflicts with Steam’s enforcement software!
Steam isn't going to remove thing you demand, figure out what you did wrong, and go from there, because no one else having problem as you claimed.

Originally posted by lucky:
I wondered if any of you in DISCUSSION COMMUNITY have had similar problems. I know it's difficult to describe what is happening and what you should do about problems with your STEAM GAMES & INSTALLATIONS. But please be reassured, DISABLED GAMES & DAMAGED STEAM INSTALLATIONS are commonplace problems. Indeed, as I was reading in another thread, damage is often caused by VIRUSES sent by wise guys on certain games like VRChat.
Yeah it call stop installing mods that not supported by VRchat, if you want to take the risk for RCE "remote code execution" that on you, they block most mods that were known to cause RCE.

Originally posted by lucky:
Surely Steam is knowledgeable about the vulnerabilities in their ANTI GAME SHARING ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM SOFTWARE (apps), especially where SHARING offences are committed on the same household network? Furthermore, Steam must stop disabling their customer’s games into a permanent disabled state! YOU ARE DOING MUCH MORE DAMAGE THAN YOU REALISE! THE DAMAGE IS OFTEN UNDIAGNOSABLE AND UNDESCRIBABLE TO USERS!
Steam isn't going to be able to help you with problems you cause to yourself mate.

Originally posted by lucky:
So, why is Steam having us all on about this? Oh yes, you can go into the STEAM DISCUSSION and talk about these problems; Steam knowing full well there are inherent problems with the Steam enforcement program software which is disabling peoples STEAM GAMES & INSTALLATIONS, and then just leaving us STEAM PAYING CUSTOMERS to wallow in our own mess; a mess we are supposed to have made for ourselves, but is being done with impunity by Steam's anti game sharing enforcement program!
Steam discuission is what it is, but doesn't mean Steam will fix your problems that you cause to yourself, and like I said if you cause the problem, maybe realize you shouldn't be doing something you're not suppose to be doing.

Originally posted by lucky:
So there it is! In my opinion the awful monster of DISABLED STEAM GAMES & DAMAGED STEAM INSALLATIONS may all too often be caused by Steam's own ANTI GAME SHARING ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM SOFTWARE (APPS).
Not gonna happen bud.

Originally posted by lucky:
The enforcement software may also be getting albeit COPIED by the wise guys who send unsuspecting Steam-customers VIRUS’ that stops peoples games and computers from working.
Steam is not gonna help you if you gone out of your way because you installed mods that were blocked by VRchat themseleves. Stop doing dumb things, Steam isn't your babysitter.

Originally posted by lucky:
Therefore Steam is not only using ROGUE ANTI GAME SHARING ENFORCEMENT SOFTWARE with impunity, but they are providing the hacking community with the tools they need to damage other Steam-customers experiences, somewhat permanently!
You're not getting free piracy access.

Originally posted by lucky:
N.B. If you have this problem, it may also help you to avoid logging into Steam from a browser on another computer, due to the likelihood of setting off the Steam (Guard), if that’s what it's called? Please use one dedicated computer and network connection for Steam gaming, as well as Steam community discussions (logins).
Cool beans but next time make story that actually more believable next time.

Originally posted by lucky:
Please reply about your DISABLED STEAM GAMES & DAMAGED INSTALLATIONS etc.....
If you're new to Steam forums welcome, else you would've seen various posts, and solutions.
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