New to PC, need help understanding my specs

[BigHarryLoad]

So I bought this laptop, Asus Q504UA, and Im having a lot of trouble getting games to run over 20fps. The laptop is Windows 10, Processor is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz 2.4GHz, 12.0GB installed RAM, 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor. All of that information came from the system settings. Im not trying to run anything crazy like GTA5 or Rainbow Six Seige, just simple stuff like Stryder or Saints Row 3. Any help would be great because Im totally lost.

[DirtyFishy]

You bought a laptop, that was your first mistake.

[BigHarryLoad]

I was looking for real help, bud

[Ozz]

pc > laptop

[DirtyFishy]

Vinny_the_Squid eredeti hozzászólása:

I was looking for real help, bud

That is real help.

[Logiar]

Graphic
Integrated Intel HD Graphics

There is your problem. If you want to do any kind of gaming you need a PC with a dedicated GPU. What you've bought is a laptop for office type work. You may be able to run older games on it, but it is by no means a laptop designed for gaming.

[Linerax]

You bought a non-gaming laptop. If you are going for ASUS, you need to look at the ROG(Republic of Gamers) series. You just bought a touch screen laptop/tablet for everyday use. When checking for specs look for NVIDIA 860M, 970M, 980M, etc. as a listed GPU because that means the GPU is a dedicated gaming graphics card. In a nutshell: the higher the 3 digit number, the better your gameplay will be - laptop wise. You want a laptop that comes with a NVIDIA 960M or higher. Do not expect low price, a 960M costs at least 1 000 USD or around that price, 970M costing more, and 980M costing waaay more, etc. However the price will go down soon enough because NVIDIA plans to release a new line of laptop GPUs: 1060M, 1070M, and 1080M respectively.

For future use: if you are unsure how the game will play on a gaming laptop(once you find one you like), type in the game and "Game Debate" into Google. From there, you should see the game and game debate as the first link. On the game debate website, scroll down until you see boxes. Input your laptop's specs(do not forget to click Yes in the box that is labeled Laptop). Hit Proceed and the page will refresh asking how big your RAM is. Input your RAM then hit Check Specs. You will get a results page: telling you what component is bottle-necking your gameplay, how many FPS you can expect, etc.

Ex: Game Debate's GTA V page
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1308&game=Grand%20Theft%20Auto%20V

Results page after inputting my specs:
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=1308&game=Grand+Theft+Auto+V&p_make=Intel&p_deriv=Core+i7-4720HQ+4-Core+2.6GHz&gc_make=Nvidia&gc_deriv=GeForce+GTX+970M+3GB&ram=16&checkSubmit=#systemrequirements

My laptop:
https://www.amazon.com/G751JT-WH71-WX-17-Inch-GeForce-Version/dp/B015QZVAF2?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJ3Q4LN6QNIL5JXVA&tag=hk044lc-20&linkCode=sp1&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B015QZVAF2

[Vaemer-Riit]

Linerax eredeti hozzászólása:

When checking for specs look for NVIDIA 860M, 970M, 980M, etc. as a listed GPU because that means the GPU is a dedicated gaming graphics card. In a nutshell: the higher the 3 digit number, the better your gameplay will be - laptop wise.

Not quite, the nVidia naming schema is as follows:

1st 1-2 numbers: Generation (If I remember correctly, Currently on 10)
2nd 2 numbers: Rating (For gaming you want something no weaker then the 50-60 range and the 80-90 range is normally the best of the generation)

Just reading the 3-4 numbers and buying the largest one could cause you to end up with a weaker card then if you knew the naming convention.

For example

These two cards from a few generations ago:

GTX 745 is a 7th generation card at the low end of the performance spectrum
GTX 680 is a 6th generation card at the high end of the performance spectrum

If you just went by the numbers the 745 might look like the better card as 745 is larger than 680 but according to benchmarks the 680 is about twice as powerful as the 745.

[Vaemer-Riit]

Gremlin.Bitten eredeti hozzászólása:

@ Vaemer-Rift: So (please correct me if I'm wrong), in trying to understand the naming convention nVIDIA employs, then is GTX 970 9th generation high-end, and GTX 1080 tenth generation higher-end, then?

A rose by any other name would not smell as sweet.

Yep

[BigHarryLoad]

Thanks so much everyone! I guess I should have noted that I bought the laptop mainly for college and was told that it could handle "light gaming" haha

[BigHarryLoad]

Yea thanks man, I'll probably buy the bare minimum desktop set up for my dorm haha

[Mivo]

Vinny_the_Squid eredeti hozzászólása:

Yea thanks man, I'll probably buy the bare minimum desktop set up for my dorm haha

In a situation like this, I'd consider a console. It'll overall cost you less and you won't have to worry about specs for all games of the same generation. It's not PC gaming, but if you want to play top PC title (Fallout 4, Witcher 3, DOOM, etc.) you need more than a bare minimum desktop, which is a bit wasteful when you do your college work on your laptop anyway. A console may also be easier to resell later on.

[Astraea Kisaragi]

Yet you guys are forgetting that the same processors and graphics are much weaker in the M (mobile version) as in their desktop version.
I have seen enough cases where i3 desktop CPU has beaten out the crap from i5 laptop processors. The Geforce 750M is 3x weaker as the GTX 750 Ti... shall I continue?

From 500 USD I put up a better desktop as a 1000 USD gaming laptop. The 1st post is the most true from all, your biggest mistake was the chose a laptop in 1st place. I know many people who buy them to stay "mobile" yet they have it on the same desk for years.

[Cathulhu]

Gremlin.Bitten eredeti hozzászólása:

Vinny -the-Squid:
For most not-requiring-big-hairy-balls PCs, when it comes to your average video game, most of your specs are OK. The problem is your [default] ASUS/Intel integrated graphics card. The hardware you have is fine for most unsophisticated gaming applications, and although ASUS is a name to be reckoned with in game hardware, sad to say, you did not buy one of ASUS' gaming rigs.

How is a 7.5Watt TDP Dualcore CPU "ok"?

[Likkik]

alalal

[ReBoot]

Let me chime in: The hardware in the original post is weak sauce. Sure, it may be great for doing work stuff but for games...
Also, its a ripoff. 12 GB RAM sounds great until you realize that the CPU isn't fast enough for high workloads that would actually benefit from that much RAM.