vpn and steam

[CAPTMEATSACK]

I've noticed that I can't really get any speed while connected to a virtual private network. Turn it off and boom speed returned. Is this something steam does on pourpos or is it the vpn? Or just some kinda setting I'm missing

[KING-TYPO]

im just looking for WHY steam is so slow. and its only in this last month it happened. its been fine for me the past 3 years. my point is online security should be allowed for ANY platform or game..its bad enough we have giant companies they harvests your data and sells it with you the victim having a chance to opt out or get a CUT of that large amount of cash it generates.

[ReBoot]

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but seriously i dont really discount the things that are possible or may even seem impossible.

If you so insist, sure, go ahead. I'd rather stick to what actually can happen in reality, given how all the technology involved works, but if you want to believe in, well, whatever, your religion is your own private decision.

[KING-TYPO]

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KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

but seriously i dont really discount the things that are possible or may even seem impossible.

If you so insist, sure, go ahead. I'd rather stick to what actually can happen in reality, given how all the technology involved works, but if you want to believe in, well, whatever, your religion is your own private decision.

well to be clear im NOT saying my vpn will protect my info that is already on steam. and im not saying that my vpn will protect me if im NOT connected to steam with my vpn on.. just wanted to make that clear.. lol

[KING-TYPO]

so how do we know steam or valve has ever been hacked? is steam/valve obigated to tell the public if they ahve been compramised?

[ReBoot]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

so how do we know steam or valve has ever been hacked? is steam/valve obigated to tell the public if they ahve been compramised?

Read gaming news. Last time something like this happened in 2015, it was all over the place. Heise and RockPaperShotgun I know from the top of my head, but practically every gaming site has reported.

[KING-TYPO]

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KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

so how do we know steam or valve has ever been hacked? is steam/valve obigated to tell the public if they ahve been compramised?

Read gaming news. Last time something like this happened in 2015, it was all over the place. Heise and RockPaperShotgun I know from the top of my head, but practically every gaming site has reported.

ok thanks.. on the bright side after talking with you i solved the connection slowdown.. so thank you for suggestion to talk to the VPN provider.. the problem was the new nordlynx protocol! after changing to UDP protocol my speed was back to normal.. for anyone having this slowdown issues this is how i went from 2kb/sec back up to 13mps/sec. i have reported the problem to nord VPN so they can look into how to fix the issue .. thank you Rebot!

[ReBoot]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

ReBoot の投稿を引用：

Read gaming news. Last time something like this happened in 2015, it was all over the place. Heise and RockPaperShotgun I know from the top of my head, but practically every gaming site has reported.

ok thanks.. on the bright side after talking with you i solved the connection slowdown.. so thank you for suggestion to talk to the VPN provider.. the problem was the new nordlynx protocol! after changing to UDP protocol my speed was back to normal.. for anyone having this slowdown issues this is how i went from 2kb/sec back up to 13mps/sec. i have reported the problem to nord VPN so they can look into how to fix the issue .. thank you Rebot!

So it IS NordVPN after all? The reason why I very much dislike this particular company are their sponsored ads on countless YT channels. Dem adds being, technically true, a fine example of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ marketing, selling gullible people stuff they don't need. Want a video explaining that in detail, debunking the NordVPN myths?

[KING-TYPO]

ReBoot の投稿を引用：

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

ok thanks.. on the bright side after talking with you i solved the connection slowdown.. so thank you for suggestion to talk to the VPN provider.. the problem was the new nordlynx protocol! after changing to UDP protocol my speed was back to normal.. for anyone having this slowdown issues this is how i went from 2kb/sec back up to 13mps/sec. i have reported the problem to nord VPN so they can look into how to fix the issue .. thank you Rebot!

So it IS NordVPN after all? The reason why I very much dislike this particular company are their sponsored ads on countless YT channels. Dem adds being, technically true, a fine example of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ marketing, selling gullible people stuff they don't need. Want a video explaining that in detail, debunking the NordVPN myths?

sure send away lol you can Pm me if you want or you can list it here.

[ReBoot]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

ReBoot の投稿を引用：

So it IS NordVPN after all? The reason why I very much dislike this particular company are their sponsored ads on countless YT channels. Dem adds being, technically true, a fine example of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ marketing, selling gullible people stuff they don't need. Want a video explaining that in detail, debunking the NordVPN myths?

sure send away lol you can Pm me if you want or you can list it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY
Tom Scott is great at explainig things, if you're the kind of learner needing to tell you something. I'm the guy to read up on that stuff on Wikipedia and then drawing conclusions myself, but if that's not your learning type, if you need someone to hold you a lecture, Tom Scott certainly is a good source.

[KING-TYPO]

to be clear nord came up with a new protocol called nordlynx. and it was find until this month when everything slowed down. so changing from the new protocol to UDP/TPC ip fixed the problem with steam.

[KING-TYPO]

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sure send away lol you can Pm me if you want or you can list it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY
Tom Scott is great at explainig things, if you're the kind of learner needing to tell you something. I'm the guy to read up on that stuff on Wikipedia and then drawing conclusions myself, but if that's not your learning type, if you need someone to hold you a lecture, Tom Scott certainly is a good source.

ok thanks take it easy! happy holidays to you and your family! may God bless you!

[ReBoot]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

to be clear nord came up with a new protocol called nordlynx. and it was find until this month when everything slowed down. so changing from the new protocol to UDP/TPC ip fixed the problem with steam.

To be clear, from what you've been saying on this thread, you don't need a VPN. It may provide you a warm, fuzzy feeling of increased security, but that warm fuzzy feeling doesn't translate into actual security. So you may just as well kiss NordVPN good bye and forget about their new protocol.

[Mad Scientist]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

how do we know steam has never been hacked? or origin or gog?

1. No need to necro from 2016
2. The country Steam is in, like many 1st world countries, require informing the users/public/authorities of any major breach.
3. General VPN speed doesn't guarantee they wont throttle connections to/from certain places. Download speed potential and reality are different; the slowest part involved in the process can slow down the speed, else;throttle from the vpn provider.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

are we not allowed to be secure and HAVE GOOD speeds?

Instead of like every uninformed user, stop asking Valve and start asking the service you're using as a different connection.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

who knows if anyone is SPYING or HACKING through a platform like steam, gog, origin?

This is the problem with VPN stuff, they cater to those that unrealistically believe someones watching them. If someone was to hack you, they would be more likely to target you for using a vpn than not due to you wanting to hide what you're doing which likely means there's something more valuable. Using a VPN doesn't mean you're unhackable.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

hiding stuff in packets or some other way or even connecting to your computer through some game?? there is something SINISTER about not being able to stay protected at the same time.

Enough with the tin foil hat stuff, this is Steam, not google/facebook/twitter; those places track everything you do whenever possible. Steam just sells video games.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

im just looking for WHY steam is so slow.

It's not, Steam doesn't throttle. You can select a less busy server but if it follows and your hardware is good enough to handle the speeds; then you're being throttled from the VPN provider itself, or some other ISP involved between your VPN and Steam, recognizing a VPN, and throttling it.

Steam does not throttle downloads

Only other parties do.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

and its only in this last month it happened. its been fine for me the past 3 years.

Has nothing to do with Valve.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

..its bad enough we have giant companies they harvests your data and sells it with you the victim having a chance to opt out or get a CUT of that large amount of cash it generates.

Has nothing to do with Valve.
Valve also has the Optional Hardware Survey so Developers know how they can cater their game, in terms of average/popular hardware. Completely OPTIONAL.

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

to be clear nord came up with a new protocol called nordlynx. and it was find until this month when everything slowed down. so changing from the new protocol to UDP/TPC ip fixed the problem with steam.

Most VPNs track everywhere you go and everything you download.
This is of course, because a fair amount of people tend to do shady things with VPNs, so unlike your normal connection, using DuckDuckGo as your browser with a PiHole or adblocking, and simply not using data collecting services like google/facebook/twitter; the traffic itself on many places can outright be monitored by the VPN or banned/prevented from connecting or fully utilizing the connection on the site(s). Notice how those data collecting places dont seem to like VPNs or other non 1st party (ISP Customer) connections? They often lock, limit access, or ask you to login if they detect traffic from a place trying to conceal who it is.

[Washell]

KING-TYPO の投稿を引用：

it seems like all the games and companies are punishing you for wanting to protect your computer/data from hacking or THEFT.

In the early days of internet and especially (public) wifi, a VPN did indeed protect you from hacking and theft. But these days, everything is encrypted by default and throwing a VPN on top of it accomplishes nothing but unnecessary overhead. They are blatantly lying in their ads.

The worst thing is that (in plenty of countries) rather than your government regulated and watchdogged ISP seeing all your data, you're now letting a private party who may be in whatever unregulated country see whatever is left to see, like what sites you like to visit.

Lastly, VPN's move your data through their servers, so any bandwidth you use shows up on their bill. Throttling data heavy services like Steam helps their bottom line. Another thing a (government regulated) ISP isn't allowed to do in many countries.