α E-MAN-cipation Ω (已封禁) 2014 年 8 月 14 日 上午 10:38
steamwebhelper.exe
does this have to run, it eats up quite a bit of ram there :rshocked:
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Simas Turbo 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:41 
These processes are cncer, honestly, steamerrorreport and steamwebhelper.
I mean correct me if iam wrong but steam doesnt even ask if we want to send reports, just sends them...
Bad 💀 Motha 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:07 
The multiple instances mean nothing; you are just paranoid.
Prior to this everything ran from a single .exe (not counting when using Steam In-Game Overlay) and it used basically the same amounts of CPU usage and RAM.

So please, get over yourself.

The splitting of the processes should actually allow Steam to run better and more effectively based on what all is going on and what you are doing/using within Steam.

To dumb-down it's size whenever u feel the need, run a RAM compressor to do that, it is all very simple. You can get that small tool by using IObit Toolbox (aka SmartRAM) which is offered via free download, no installer needed, thus it can even be housed on a Flash Drive for mobile/tech usage if need-be. > http://download.cnet.com/IObit-Toolbox/3000-2094_4-75221761.html

If you have something like IObit Advanced SystemCare, then u already have such "Toolbox" included.
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:08
Sannas 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 9:42 
引用自 Bad-Motha
The splitting of the processes should actually allow Steam to run better and more effectively based on what all is going on and what you are doing/using within Steam.

Its not about being paranoid and your quoted statement is yet to be proven anywhere, when multiple instances were introduced on chrome it gave me all sorts of performance headaches and still is, its why I've reverted back mainly to firefox, its more stable. I only open chrome now to test my web development.

I understand the point of an instance for this or that but just running steam in the background with friends list open needs 3 calls for webhelper? That was my question and I'm trying to establish a reasonable response, so I understand the purpose of this. To say steam overlay is one call thats fine, but why does an instance of steamwebhelper have to be running when overlay isn't called for? One for this, one for that, blah blah blah... If instances of this, that or the other haven't been called for why do I need steamwebhelper instances running for them?

Simply put if your not running an instance of something, running a supporting piece of software for a non running piece of sofware is a waste of resources and more points of potential failure, making it more inefficient and a higher risk of causing instability.
最后由 Sannas 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 9:43
RedLightning 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 10:34 
引用自 Sannas
引用自 Bad-Motha
The splitting of the processes should actually allow Steam to run better and more effectively based on what all is going on and what you are doing/using within Steam.

Its not about being paranoid and your quoted statement is yet to be proven anywhere, when multiple instances were introduced on chrome it gave me all sorts of performance headaches and still is, its why I've reverted back mainly to firefox, its more stable. I only open chrome now to test my web development.

I understand the point of an instance for this or that but just running steam in the background with friends list open needs 3 calls for webhelper? That was my question and I'm trying to establish a reasonable response, so I understand the purpose of this. To say steam overlay is one call thats fine, but why does an instance of steamwebhelper have to be running when overlay isn't called for? One for this, one for that, blah blah blah... If instances of this, that or the other haven't been called for why do I need steamwebhelper instances running for them?

Simply put if your not running an instance of something, running a supporting piece of software for a non running piece of sofware is a waste of resources and more points of potential failure, making it more inefficient and a higher risk of causing instability.

I tried Chrome once .. and was annoyed at the processes.. and the issues.. So I also switched to firefox. Now to see Steam working the same way with performance hits.. something needs to be done.
Blondi 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 11:04 
it used to be worse though, some motnhs ago, when i kinda stoppedp laying dota due to this, i even got 16 processes sometimes, taking up almost a gig of memory.... thats not normal...

those days, everyone called me troll and faker about htis, so i gave up on it, and moved on playing lol for some months.. although i still have 5-7 processes running of it all the time, i dont notice any performance decrease due to it anymore.

but then i have to admit, i watch series an tube movies while playing dota. so you can kinda blame me too for having issues with the slightest decrease in performance, and having a stream, or using flash video and such, isnt good for the framerate at itselve. so yeah. the chance that i notice a decrease in optimization, is muhc higher than for a person thats just playing dota fullscreen and has nothing else running on the background.

but still, this is a thing of the last year. in the past. when there was only one istance running at 200mb perhaps, you neevr saw peopel with a problem like this, and last year. many threads have popped up about this. so yeah, people areo nly noticing the potential of the problems it MIGHT give.
最后由 Blondi 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 30 日 上午 11:04
Silicon Vampire 2015 年 1 月 30 日 下午 12:01 
Every single one of my computers uses less memory for Steam now than it used to. About 60% of what it used to be...

I have a Celeron/512MB/XP laptop that doesn't exhibit any of the symptoms described in these threads.

The ONLY computers I have hand my hands on that did, were misconfigured or infected computers.
Blondi 2015 年 1 月 30 日 下午 12:10 
引用自 Silicon Vampire
The ONLY computers I have hand my hands on that did, were misconfigured or infected computers.


what i mean, people end every other argument wih this, so dont expect people to be openminded here. since there are so many different configurations of hardware and such + OS and such. os yeah. he clearly knows what hes talking baout.

thats why i didnt bother talking baout it anymore. since every other person thinks they know somethign about software, by giving some weird oneliners. and then everyone can feel a IT professional.
最后由 Blondi 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 30 日 下午 12:11
Silicon Vampire 2015 年 1 月 30 日 下午 12:31 
I realize people may not want to hear it but it the truth and all I do is repair computers. about half the people I work for are Steam users and still, I have not seen a box do this without an underlying issue with it.
Sannas 2015 年 1 月 31 日 上午 3:46 
引用自 Silicon Vampire
I realize people may not want to hear it but it the truth and all I do is repair computers. about half the people I work for are Steam users and still, I have not seen a box do this without an underlying issue with it.

I'm sorry not everything fits into your little box of explanations, I have been in the computer industry myself for near on 20 years and I have seen many applications that are poorly configured and hardware. When multiple people are complaining of the same issues it doesn't immediately fit your little box for an answer. And I'm sorry to say just because you fix hardware and possibly run a virus app, ccleaner and maybe a bunch of useful tools it doesn't make you a soft developer.
People discuss these issues with the hope of some rectification, I am happy for your situation running XP and a old Celeron processor with 512 meg of Ram that steam runs 40% less memory intensive than it used to. Have you thought however that the Steam bootstrapper is running at 40% less and the additional webhelpers are pushing it to another 60% making it run at 120% of what it used to, therefor less efficient?
And a virus or poorly conifigured PC doesn't really cut it in regards to webhelper calls, unless of course we all have a virus that directly effects steam and throws random webhelper calls to it, or its morphed itself to appear like a steam call, but the later falls a little flat seeing as when I kill steam strapper all the webhelper calls stop as well.

Thanks however for your feedback to my question I'll think about your response a little more
Blondi 2015 年 1 月 31 日 上午 5:31 
well it could be a windows module that simply screws up at certain hardware configuraitons, like, svchost with some NICadapters.... who knows......

but saying, you should have a virus or a bad configuration, is kinda shortsighted imo too, that it runs doesnt mean that windows is running well with that certain firmaware....

so yeah. putitn it only to you have virus, or bad configuration, cant be said imho...

but thats imho though....

i have to admit, it surely hits me in the wrong places if discussions end up with these kind of remarks, since that would be the same as saying to a poor man whos living on the street, "get a job"
最后由 Blondi 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 31 日 上午 5:32
RedLightning 2015 年 1 月 31 日 上午 9:10 
All I know is that I get the windows wait icon and my processor tacks out whenever it wants to .. and it is because of steam. when this wait icon shows up .. my computer is a bit laggy and causes a bunch of microstutters in some games. .. . NOTHING else on my system suffers this effect without steam running.
最后由 RedLightning 编辑于; 2015 年 1 月 31 日 上午 9:11
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