Input delay only in games on steam

[SinonAsaida]

I can't be the only one who has had or is having this issue. I have even tried a fresh boot, nothing seems to fix it.

ONLY IN GAMES LAUNCHED THROUGH STEAM, i get massive input delay from primarily my keyboard, i haven't noticed an issue with my mouse. Keys will act like they aren't being pressed, remain pressed longer then they were, release early, or just be overall delayed by seconds when pressed.

This happens on both my desktop and my laptop and again, only on games launched through steam. any game i launch through any other platform or from their standalone client i do not have this issue with. It's gotten to the point that i'm now here to see if anyone else has had the issue and resolved it and what they did, or if just anyone else has any kind of ideas on getting it fixed.

[Iceira]

Steam dont have mouse and keyboard option, so thats your system or its USB unit from to reinstall USB controller driver and its software to its unit.

dont forget replug all usb unit, so it can autoconfigurated itself with whatever software it already know and its driver.


all this is Brand board support or brand pc name suport and its own Brand mouse or keyboard Brand problem.

i dont work for steam its a user forum.

ps.
and it dont make it better then you said 2 pc , sounds like a game server issue in other end in top of this out of sync maybe, so even network to whatsever game server you talking about could be the issue.

point is, 2 pc is seen as odds for both can have same issue is slim, i think you need to take it up with that game or its network to it, and that means from your endpoint to maybe a game server issue , ( that dont repond as it should or your network to it doing it. )

check netcard drivers and own router and for bad packet ( cable. software update all goes here, 2 pc fat chance both can make same mistake. unless you are use same driver same mouse and keyboard.

[SinonAsaida]

see i would be inclined to believe it's something outside of steam, if i hadn't already stated, games launched through other platforms and games launched from their own client DON'T have this issue.

Example, BDO played through the client has 0 issues, no problems, no nothing, BDO launched through steam, input delay problems.

this being the case, and before someone jumps in and claims "specs"

Desktop is custom built
I9-10850k
64gb ddr4 3200
GTX 1060 *i know, couldn't justify a 3x price 30 series when i built it and now i'm waiting for a 40 series*
1tb m.2 primary drive (os and main games)
8tb hdd with a 32gb m.2 optane cache (other games)

Laptop is an asus scar 15 G533QS
Ryzen 9 5900HX
32gb ddr4 3200
RTX 3080
1tb m.2

all drivers are current and up to date.

This problem occurs in single player games, online games, anything. Prime example of a single player game is ship graveyard, just played it tonight on my laptop and the issue occurred to the point it was basically unplayable. this happens with any keyboard or mouse that i use, any combination, and again, only happens when games are launched through steam. even made the switch from corsair to logitech, same problem and again, only happens when games are launched through steam.

[Iceira]

Try test with steam small mode, or reduce steam option in large mode.

clear webcache maybe.

Try Contact steam support, maybe the client got a issue not investigate or have other impact issue with it.

but technicaly that still that Brand keyboard issue with missing keystokes and im sure they want to know why it happend.

thats why i wrote it, im not so sure steam support will comment on it. they want a smoking gun, 100 steam user or more that complain as you did.


ps.
and with 2 pc, that hard to argue with you then you have a valid point. and that why i said in many post use other pc to ruleout 1 pc point of view. process of elimination.

and you confirm other game not only 1.

so do try ((( VIEW )) small mode as test, to reduce steam client to just a game launcher

[Iceira]

Do know the diffrence in None steam game and what is a steam game
launched through steam. ( this is seen before ) and maybe thats the problem here.

ask steam support, im not sure they can do anything about None steam game but that dont mean other things might be wrong with that option or choise in how to start a none steam game though steam client.

example even i dont play hardcore diablo3 though other client. then it lag, maybe its this you have notice.

[SinonAsaida]

Tried launching in small mode, no difference, problem still persists. i even tried disabling the steam overlay incase that was somehow messing with something, no change.

when i mentioned the BDO issue, they have 2 separate launchers, the "steam version" and their client. The "steam version" experiences the issue, the client version does not. the only difference i'm aware of, is 1 goes through your steam account and has to be launched via steam, 1 uses a web profile and doesn't launch through steam, the game itself is exactly the same.

i also don't believe it's a "brand" issue as far as keyboard goes, i've tried corsair, now logitech, some no name off brand, and even a Madcatz keyboard i have, all with their actual drivers and with basic windows drivers, all experience the issue.

i will try to send a message to steam support, but we'll see what they say.

[Iceira]

Keyboard missing typing start there, then its keyboard devs job to take it to other place.
and as i said then its 2 pc, then they have a issue with maybe that game devs with that game to test such, is not simple and why you should included them.

this is not what you think is right, iits from keyboard lack of input or scamble to whatever they figure out. ( try see its as you start from there. not in the other end then you have no clue what cause this. )

i have even seen OC pc screw up and or with faulth PSU cause issue with pc micro lag or lost its refresh process, its simple not normal to even suggest every user have done such,
maybe you need hand on technician with all them things you dont mention here.

as i said to many possibilities to even suggest what if this and that.
you might be bertter off in that game own forum, and hope another user know exatly what cause you can do same mistake on 2 pc, as you see even i can use that valid point that is not possible. and that is saying same time you have a vaild case, until someone know exatly what cause this.

[Iceira]

Point is 2 pc with 2 OS in top of this , game devs,steam, Brand keyboard ( or Brand pc support ) not even sure this is a network issue then it happend in single player game )

no other in the world has or can help you with support on whatever Brand you have to its keyboard and mouse.

if you say single player then it cant be BDO issue ,
so there is only Brand keyboard, and pc itself, and steam support left

as i said i use process of elimination.

ps.
sure i can say user might have external interference issue or things we cant see here.

can you write down then it happend , ( more a intervale issue , with something system is doing or things next tech dude might think could be a clue. )

minute, hour and date , so logs in your system can be checked,
the system could have resource issue you might not know, backup and other things we dont think on here.


gl with it.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

By delay you mean like action input delay, or typing in a chat delay in game?

Did you by chance mess with controller mapping, and used keyboard for input on controller?

Are you using any 3rd party anti virus that for whatever reason gone ape and doing deep scanning on things you launch via Steam?

Do you have any 3rd part app trying to hook into the game, or trying to apply it own overlay?

[SinonAsaida]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用：

By delay you mean like action input delay, or typing in a chat delay in game?

Did you by chance mess with controller mapping, and used keyboard for input on controller?

Are you using any 3rd party anti virus that for whatever reason gone ape and doing deep scanning on things you launch via Steam?

Do you have any 3rd part app trying to hook into the game, or trying to apply it own overlay?

yes, when i say input delay, it was as if my keys were not responding the way they should, either being delayed, remaining pressed longer then they should etc.

i thought of double checking the overlay stuff again, and i think i found the solution in the most obscure spot, you kind of hit the nail on the head, tho it wasn't anything involving actual anti virus protection. I had already thought it might be like Nvidias overlay or xbox overlay causing the issue so those had already been disabled. Turns out however, my AV program has a "game boost mode" that is enabled by default for some odd reason, turned it off and i just spent the better part of the last hour playing ship graveyard to make sure it didn't sprout up again, to my surprise. yet it only seemed to affect games launched via steam, not any other platform or games launched via their own client, which i find to be even more odd.

So for anyone else that happens upon this with a similar issue, check your AV program, i personally use avira, but it seems more and more companies are trying to "tap" into the gaming world with some of the most obscure things, and they have no business even being there in the first place. Don't ask me why i even thought to look there, but i'm glad i did.

either way, it seems to be fixed now, i even made the change with the game active knowing the problem was happening, and it went away as soon as i turned that feature off.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Sometime reason why app only affect one app than other is either they got lazy, and assume everyone just uses that one app, or never really cared about other apps.

I assume they just target Steam only, and nothing else which may explain why nothing else is affected that outside of steam.

[Iceira]

No antivirus app target only a company , so you can forget that, that mean steam can take that company to court and pretty much end kill them as company, so you can forget that, more a interference issue that effect its process , take it up with own AV support, because we other dont have that AV app,

and OP should take notice of other things we cant see here. and take a note in process of elimianation, that user have same app run both places i bet.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Iceira W10 の投稿を引用：

No antivirus app target only a company , so you canb forget that, that mean steam can take that company to court and pretty much end kill them as company, so you can forget that, more a interference issue that effect its process , take it up with own AV support, because we other dont have that AV app,

and OP should take notice of other things we cant see here. and take a note in process of elimianation, that user have same app run both places i bet.

You're right, I worded pretty badly, it not target in a sense to go out of their way to harm, or to be for only but either an oversight, or never bother to put effort how app worked, such as game mode aim to target to move thing like calling, or function correctly that try block those things that consider to be bloat, or unnecessary.

So if Steam has calling registry to push resources usage the game performance app or anti virus may block because doesn't want app to use said resource, which cause said problems, as trying to do it job is to give all resources dedicated to something, often I find most game performance apps don't really do the job, or not well at all, as often they benefit systems that barely capable of running games, or just too low end, or old of a system where OS, and other apps are hogging to much resources that game needs in that sense.

[Iceira]

and still thx for the help anyway Dr shadows, and you know how it is then if helper say user make mistake but, then do we not do that. ( part of learning and what cause this. )

and this is a user forum, missing so many information and require sometimes access and know what is going on at remote pc. ( and we dont have that here as steam users, and might not want to, because then we all have to do that. )

[Florinjkee]

I have the same issue, only steam games , pubg, cs go, feel delay movement, no time to React when they shooting

[TehArbinator]

SinonAsaida の投稿を引用：

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用：

By delay you mean like action input delay, or typing in a chat delay in game?

Did you by chance mess with controller mapping, and used keyboard for input on controller?

Are you using any 3rd party anti virus that for whatever reason gone ape and doing deep scanning on things you launch via Steam?

Do you have any 3rd part app trying to hook into the game, or trying to apply it own overlay?

yes, when i say input delay, it was as if my keys were not responding the way they should, either being delayed, remaining pressed longer then they should etc.

i thought of double checking the overlay stuff again, and i think i found the solution in the most obscure spot, you kind of hit the nail on the head, tho it wasn't anything involving actual anti virus protection. I had already thought it might be like Nvidias overlay or xbox overlay causing the issue so those had already been disabled. Turns out however, my AV program has a "game boost mode" that is enabled by default for some odd reason, turned it off and i just spent the better part of the last hour playing ship graveyard to make sure it didn't sprout up again, to my surprise. yet it only seemed to affect games launched via steam, not any other platform or games launched via their own client, which i find to be even more odd.

So for anyone else that happens upon this with a similar issue, check your AV program, i personally use avira, but it seems more and more companies are trying to "tap" into the gaming world with some of the most obscure things, and they have no business even being there in the first place. Don't ask me why i even thought to look there, but i'm glad i did.

either way, it seems to be fixed now, i even made the change with the game active knowing the problem was happening, and it went away as soon as i turned that feature off.

I had the exact same issue and it was solved completely by turning off the Game Optimizer on my AV program, specifically Norton. It's a night and day difference and I can actually play games on Steam normally now. Thank you so much for mentioning that, I had tried literally everything else and nothing had solved the issue until now.