Anyone ever tried to hook a Switch Pro Controller up to your PC with DS4W/BetterJoy?

[Kakarot]

So the problem i'm having is i'm trying to hook my wife's Switch Pro Controllers up on her PC but for some reason one of the Pro Controllers is just not registering in DS4W or Steam, I can still use it with some games that don't require SteamInput or Switch Controller Support to be enabled (I tested in "The Binding Of Issac") but the Steam Controller settings themselves say no Input Devices are being detected even tried BetterJoy, and the other one says its connected but not even showing up in my device manger or working in any way, shape or form.

I can get the first one to register in BetterJoy if I add the controller by selecting the "Add Controllers" option but then it freaks out and says there is 4 controllers connected and then disconnects all and reconnects all multiple times until I close the program, even hiding the extra controllers in "HidHide" didnt work (which is what fixed my DS4Windows).

Tried un-pairing both multiple times as well as uninstalling the drivers and letting them reinstall. Neither would show up on http://gamepad-tester.com/ either except for the first one and ONLY if it was plugged directly into the PC.

I don't know if this is relevant to the problem but the connecting lights/player count LEDs on the bottom of both controllers never stopped flashing. Also neither of the controllers actually say "Nintendo Switch Controller" or "Wireless Controller", they both say "Lic Pro Controller".

I don't know what else to try or whats even wrong as it seems to me that one controller isn't even fully connecting to the PC and the other one is but not registering in any Input Mapping Programs with only mild support for simple DirectInput compatible games.

Any help would be appreciated as my wife is very depressed that she cant play any of her games currently. Some context before someone says to just "not use a Switch Controller", her Xbox Controller finally kicked the bucket and we don't have the money to just go buy a new one and as we have a real Nintendo Switch I figured it would be a fast fix, seeing as I have Switch Joy-Cons hooked up to my PC and the Joy-Cons worked with her PC in the past but I guess Pro Controllers are more finicky.

Thank you in advance for any advice, if I don't respond quickly i'm sorry, I have kids and sleep at weird times on top of that lol.

[tintingaroo]

Still looking for the thread but I remember reading one user found they had to connect via USB and then put the controller into pairing mode (or had controller in pairing mode then connected to PC via USB), see if that makes any difference for the one that doesn't connect. I don't have a Switch so don't know how things work, but is it off? Could that controller still be paired to the Switch and that be the reason it's not operating as the other is?

The pairing lights cycle on my 3rd Party Pro Controller when it's just paired as a bluetooth HID/ DInput device. If Steam is running or its connected to DS4W it has a solid light.

Is Switch Pro Controller Support enabled in DS4W? (Settings > Device Options)

[Kakarot]

Oprindeligt skrevet af tintingaroo:

Still looking for the thread but I remember reading one user found they had to connect via USB and then put the controller into pairing mode (or had controller in pairing mode then connected to PC via USB), see if that makes any difference for the one that doesn't connect. I don't have a Switch so don't know how things work, but is it off? Could that controller still be paired to the Switch and that be the reason it's not operating as the other is?

The pairing lights cycle on my 3rd Party Pro Controller when it's just paired as a bluetooth HID/ DInput device. If Steam is running or its connected to DS4W it has a solid light.

I made sure to un-pair both controllers before attempting to sync them to the PC, however I will try putting it into pairing mode and then plugging it as it sounds just ghetto enough to work lol Ill report back, I doubt it will change anything but we might learn something new.

I have also just found out also that my controllers are actually a third-party PowerA Enhanced Pro Controller. The thing is though it should still work with DS4W and BetterJoy cause they specifically say they support third-party gamepads (such as PowerA), also whats weird is that the other controller isnt registering at all after claiming to be connected as if the PC cant recognize its software or something.

Controller #1: https://www.gamestop.com/gaming-accessories/controllers/nintendo-switch/products/powera-enhanced-wireless-controller-for-nintendo-switch-pokemon-pikachu-black-gold/11105993.html

[tintingaroo]

Found the thread - two things that had worked for them with Steam:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/2/1609400247645172794/#c1640927981800493562

https://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/2/1609400247645172794/?ctp=2#c3092275748072738660

Might only apply for Nintendo Pro Controllers tbough

[Kakarot]

Oprindeligt skrevet af tintingaroo:

Found the thread - two things that had worked for them with Steam:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/2/1609400247645172794/#c1640927981800493562

https://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/2/1609400247645172794/?ctp=2#c3092275748072738660

Might only apply for Nintendo Pro Controllers tbough

The plugging in while pairing method didnt do anything, also neither of those threads would work for me because even with the controller plugged in, I noticed it would disappear and reappear from the paired devices list when plugged in directly as if it was being rejected or something. To be honest I think this is a lost cause, apparently third-party Pro Controllers on PC sometimes work sometimes dont according to another thread I was reading. I think it might have something to do with the fact the third-party controllers dont recive the Official Switch Controller Firmware updates as they arent actually running on official software. Not sure though, any thoughts?

[tintingaroo]

I feel they should work at least with Steam since Valve specifially added support for the PowerA Switch controllers.

For the disconnect/reconnect, test with all input mapper's closed or with only one input mapper running and taking charge of the controller.

I've been re-reading and I keep feeling that the first controller is working as it should but the issue is it's not being detected, when it should be detected at least by Steam...

[Kakarot]

Oprindeligt skrevet af tintingaroo:

I feel they should work at least with Steam since Valve specifially added support for the PowerA Switch controllers.

For the disconnect/reconnect, test with all input mapper's closed or with only one input mapper running and taking charge of the controller.

I've been re-reading and I keep feeling that the first controller is working as it should but the issue is it's not being detected, when it should be detected at least by Steam...

Yeah I agree and as for the second controller I dont know what the hell is wrong there. Also I tested with Steam-Only and once again with DS4W-Only and then once more with BetterJoy only. The controller just isnt being registered as a controller or something, it should be auto detected by any of these programs so the fact the only one works kinda and only when I manually add it to BetterJoy and even then have no inputs registering is weird. I wish there was a way to just reset the controllers themselves like change the ID of them or something im wondering if just these specific controllers drivers are failing. I had another person tell me PowerA Controllers only half the time work on PC so maybe thats actually true. If it is theres a lot of false advertising I feel like and its kinda bs to be honest. If you want my opinion, and this is kinda a long-shot but I believe the controller isnt being recognized as a controller but rather as an unknown input device, even though it says "NST Wireless Controller", I think the PC is getting its Device ID mixed up somehow.

[tintingaroo]

For the first controller over BT, I've been thinking since it works as dinput you could try x360ce to translate to xinput.

There was another I tried to help with their PowerA Switch controller, and iirc, they had a similar issue: the controller they initially used belonged to their friend but it worked fine on their system. They bought the same controller but it wasn't getting detected as a gamepad or something. Checked if drivers were the same, tried updating firmware but no luck.

What does Windows' Game Controller configurator show for them (info again on how to access it: press Windows key & R, type joy.cpl, OK. To test buttons select the controller > Properties)?
Do both of them show or does the second controller not get listed? That would go with the idea of it not being recognised as a gamepad I think.

[Kakarot]

Oprindeligt skrevet af tintingaroo:

For the first controller over BT, I've been thinking since it works as dinput you could try x360ce to translate to xinput.

There was another I tried to help with their PowerA Switch controller, and iirc, they had a similar issue: the controller they initially used belonged to their friend but it worked fine on their system. They bought the same controller but it wasn't getting detected as a gamepad or something. Checked if drivers were the same, tried updating firmware but no luck.

What does Windows' Game Controller configurator show for them (info again on how to access it: press Windows key & R, type joy.cpl, OK. To test buttons select the controller > Properties)?
Do both of them show or does the second controller not get listed? That would go with the idea of it not being recognised as a gamepad.

Your on the right track, the second one does not show up but the first one does, strangely it doesnt show up as it does in device manager, it instead shows up as "HID" and then a random string of numbers and letters. Which goes with what I said earlier as well about the controllers ID being funky or something. This is getting weird man why cant PowerA just use Official Software xD

[jacobrocket173]

there is now an option in the steam controller settings that says "enable steam input for switch pro controllers" and its disabled by default, if you turn it on itll detect switch pro controllers and youll be able to play games on steam with it