Disc write errors with Samsung 980Pro

[tonysowndressing]

Setup:
AMD 5600
Asus Dark Hero
EVGA 3080 FTW3
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1tb (windows installed on this) PCIe GEN3
Samsung 980 Pro 2tb (steam library) PCIe GEN4, nothing else on drive

I am constantly getting disc write errors when trying to run STEAM games off of the 980. I can play the newly installed game for about 15-20 mins the assets in the game stop loading and the game crashes.
After the crash I am unable to read/write from/to the 980. I tested this with txt, mp4, png files. I need to restart windows and format the drive after the disc write errors in order to use the 980 again.

Still fails when:
tried running as admin
opening directory security to full control
tried downloading to 970 then move game to 980
download directly to 980
verify integrity (never works before or after crash)
reinstalled steam
swapped the 980 Pro out for the exact same

Knowns:
Fresh windows install
Drivers up to date
Windows up to date
Rebar enabled (actually never tried with this disabled)
Everything worked on 970 evo (windows install) / 970 evo plus (steam library)

Any suggestions welcome.

Only thing i can think is that there is an issue with steam being on a PCIe gen3 nvme and the library on a PCIe gen4 nvme

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Hmm, can't say what wrong as I can only guess.

What games are having issue?

Could try verify game filss.

Do you happen to use any 3rd party software that manage your file, and permissions for you?

Is your motherboard Bios up to date, it possible might have micro code issue where later bios update would fix it.

Could try this using CrystalDiskInfo to check health of the nvme, and then do speed test on the nvme using CrystalMark to just confirm nothing wrong with it.

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису |<- Iceira ->|:

Windows defender is default on, and you dont ruleout its off.

Try safe boot mode.

I will try safe mode.
Any idea why the steam library works fine on a PCIe gen3 nvme with now other change in setup?
again the disc write errors only happen when gen4 nvme is used

[my new friend]

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

Цитата допису |<- Iceira ->|:

Windows defender is default on, and you dont ruleout its off.

Try safe boot mode.

I will try safe mode.
Any idea why the steam library works fine on a PCIe gen3 nvme with now other change in setup?
again the disc write errors only happen when gen4 nvme is used

What motherboard?

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

What games are having issue?

All games crash within 20 mins. New World lasts the longest, loads and plays but no textures loaded

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Could try verify game filss.

Did already. i put that in the "Still fails when:"

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Do you happen to use any 3rd party software that manage your file, and permissions for you?

No

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Is your motherboard Bios up to date, it possible might have micro code issue where later bios update would fix it.

Yes, as well as all drivers

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Could try this using CrystalDiskInfo to check health of the nvme, and then do speed test on the nvme using CrystalMark to just confirm nothing wrong with it.

used Samsung magician and Asus bios. Did full scans and no failures

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису my new friend:

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

I will try safe mode.
Any idea why the steam library works fine on a PCIe gen3 nvme with now other change in setup?
again the disc write errors only happen when gen4 nvme is used

What motherboard?

in original post. Asus Dark Hero

[rawWwRrr]

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

Цитата допису rawWwRrr:

Go back to what works:

Perhaps where you are getting the 980s from have a bad batch of them.

So my friend has the same 980 Pro but has windows installed on it and its running PCIe gen3

Hardware is weird sometimes. I went through a few packs of RAM years ago where it seems two of the four in the pack were always bad. I finally asked the retailer to grab a pack from a different batch and all four worked like they should.

Try a different Gen4 drive. The Samsungs are more name than performance, now. At the 980 Pro price point, check out Sabrent's Rocket 4 Plus.

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису rawWwRrr:

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

So my friend has the same 980 Pro but has windows installed on it and its running PCIe gen3

Hardware is weird sometimes. I went through a few packs of RAM years ago where it seems two of the four in the pack were always bad. I finally asked the retailer to grab a pack from a different batch and all four worked like they should.

Try a different Gen4 drive. The Samsungs are more name than performance, now. At the 980 Pro price point, check out Sabrent's Rocket 4 Plus.

Yea i might have to try something else since this is the second 980 Pro. just dont understand why the issues is with gen4 PCIe

[Phoenix]

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

Yea i might have to try something else since this is the second 980 Pro. just dont understand why the issues is with gen4 PCIe

Nothing so far points to PCIe being the issue. It might as well be that this particular SSD/controller has issue with your hardware config. Googling points to other people epxeriencing the same issue with Samsung SSDs. Ma advice would be to try a different SSD with a different controller from a different manufacturer.

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису Phoenix:

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

Yea i might have to try something else since this is the second 980 Pro. just dont understand why the issues is with gen4 PCIe

Nothing so far points to PCIe being the issue. It might as well be that this particular SSD/controller has issue with your hardware config. Googling points to other people epxeriencing the same issue with Samsung SSDs. Ma advice would be to try a different SSD with a different controller from a different manufacturer.

Tried out a sabrent rocket plus 2tb. Same behavior.

[Iceira]

Try take it up with mortherboard support or brand support name pc, maybe they have a bug somewhere.

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису |<- Iceira ->|:

Try take it up with mortherboard support or brand support name pc, maybe they have a bug somewhere.

trying now. but its asus.
I am going to try rolling back the BIOS. that is the only other change I did recently

[tonysowndressing]

just tried BIOS 3401, 3702, 3801. same behavior exists

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Do you happen to have another PC, if so can you try that NVME in that other PC? If don't have another PC, try the 2nd m.2 slot, it may not be pcie 4.0, but want to test something to see if get same issue in 2nd m.2 slot, if been using it in 2nd slot, then try 1st slot then, it just to check the slot really, and this is just throwing a ball in the dark but something to just get a possible idea if you get any results from it.

[tonysowndressing]

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Do you happen to have another PC, if so can you try that NVME in that other PC? If don't have another PC, try the 2nd m.2 slot, it may not be pcie 4.0, but want to test something to see if get same issue in 2nd m.2 slot, if been using it in 2nd slot, then try 1st slot then, it just to check the slot really, and this is just throwing a ball in the dark but something to just get a possible idea if you get any results from it.

both m.2 are populated already. m.2_1 has the 980 Pro or Sabrent Rocket Plus for testing, m.2_2 has 970 evo plus with windows installed.

Both slots are PCIe 4. Old config was 970 Evo and 970 Evo Plus and worked fine

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Цитата допису tonysowndressing:

Цитата допису Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Do you happen to have another PC, if so can you try that NVME in that other PC? If don't have another PC, try the 2nd m.2 slot, it may not be pcie 4.0, but want to test something to see if get same issue in 2nd m.2 slot, if been using it in 2nd slot, then try 1st slot then, it just to check the slot really, and this is just throwing a ball in the dark but something to just get a possible idea if you get any results from it.

both m.2 are populated already. m.2_1 has the 980 Pro or Sabrent Rocket Plus for testing, m.2_2 has 970 evo plus with windows installed.

Both slots are PCIe 4. Old config was 970 Evo and 970 Evo Plus and worked fine

Then best I can suggest is get refund on it, or if have another pc to test it in that be great, I really have no idea why this is an issue for you really.

The only thing I can think of is formating the 980, you want to use tool that made to zero out everything on your ssd basically Secure Erase. When people do quick format, or half-ass formtating tools they just mark your data with * telling this area good to overwrite on, and you don't want that, you want all the 1's turn into 0, which is not possible to recover any data because that what Secure Erase is about turning all 1's to 0.

This is the best I can think of, otherwise have to deal with Asus about this issue if this is a PCIe 4.0 problem.