Tempered glass panel getting hot

[Peroxide Flowers]

So I built my first PC the other week and noticed that the tempered glass panel gets a little extra spicy to the touch, so I've removed it for the time being. Now, I'm a woman and as any man in a relationship with one knows, we have our showers hotter than the pits of hell, so it concerns me that the glass is giving the shower temp a run for its money.

Build as follows:
Ryzen 5 3600 (using stock cooler)
ASRock b550 extreme4 ATX mobo
Asus 1660 ti
Cougar MX-331 mesh-g case
I don't remember what the wattage of the psu is but it's between 600w and 700w.
There is RGB on one case fan and on the case, if that has to do with anything.

At present I have only two case fans (rear and top-rear, 120mm), so I presume (read: hoping) it has to do with that as the circulation doesn't seem THAT great. I can stick two more on the front, which I'm guessing would be gravy but I would have to do some wire re-jigging to get a third one in at the top-front. That said I don't know if that third one would be worth it as half the fan will be directly above the CD drive, with about a 1cm clearance. Case is a bit tight for liquid cooling.

What do you guys suggest?

[Muppet among Puppets]

You want more air in from front, than removed from the back.

Two fans in the rear only is bad.

The case seems to support 2x120mm at the front.
My guess with 2 at front and one in the back you should have way better cooling than now.
The top rear one probably is not needed. You can test that for yourself.

[Supafly]

if you only have 2 fans make 1 intake and the other exhaust. Heat naturally rises so the rear and top should be exhaust and the front and bottom as intakes.Even if you have 1 of those fans as intake it's position for intake isn't good.

for 2 fans go with

1 x Exhaust at rear
1 x Intake at front

for 3 fans go with

1 x Exhaust at rear
2 x Intake at front

If you're pushing more air in there will be more air pressure pushing the heat out. The rear as exhaust will do that but the pressure will mean air is also pushed out of any small gaps in the case thus improving cooling.

[nullable]

How hot is the glass actually getting? How hot do you think it should be getting? Why do you believe that?

Is the system actually having thermal issues?

Or are you stuck on the idea the glass ought to be cool in the absence of any other problems?

[Guydodge]

im guessing you have a stock air cooler blowing directly at the glass panel i would consider getting a better https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H25DYM3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this will blow the air to rear of case.and consider some good paste
https://www.amazon.com/Compound-Heatsink-Processor-Performance-Interface/dp/B08S3H36XC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=mx+paste&qid=1611154193&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE5RlFTWVpQUVlROVomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1NzIyMjExT1FUSFpQN1RINFo3JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNTg5NjIzVjYxMllBOVZRVVdMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==if its actually getting the glass hot you have cpu/gpu cooling issues. and 2 front fans intake,2 top fans out,1 rear fan out.should cool it down substantially.

[Talby]

Try setting the cpu fan speed in the BIOS, either one of the more aggressive settings or custom via the FAN-Tastic tuning (mine hits 100% @ 70C)

same for GPU, I prefer a custom fan curve in MSI Afterburner

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mine hits 100%@70C also, just to be consistent with the cpu setting - logic here is to keep the components more cool at the expense of fan noise, which in turn should keep the case temps as low as possible since more heat will be expelled with the case fans, once you get all your fans setup will be optimal

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by Guydodge:

im guessing you have a stock air cooler blowing directly at the glass panel i would consider getting a better https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H25DYM3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this will blow the air to rear of case.and consider some good paste
https://www.amazon.com/Compound-Heatsink-Processor-Performance-Interface/dp/B08S3H36XC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=mx+paste&qid=1611154193&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE5RlFTWVpQUVlROVomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1NzIyMjExT1FUSFpQN1RINFo3JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNTg5NjIzVjYxMllBOVZRVVdMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==if its actually getting the glass hot you have cpu/gpu cooling issues. and 2 front fans intake,2 top fans out,1 rear fan out.should cool it down substantially.

This CPU cooler wont fit, 159mm high heatsink and case has room for 155mm high heatsink, need to keep this in mind when choosing CPU cooler for this.
Would recommend using something like Noctua NH-U9S chromax.black instead with 125mm heatsink.
Tower cooler would push hot air back to the case vented by back fan instead of pushing it towards glass panel like stock cooler.
Two 120mm intake fans for front panel.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

How hot is the glass actually getting? How hot do you think it should be getting? Why do you believe that?

With right airflow, the air wont ever be more than warm.

If any part on the side already gets hot, that means the air is even hotter.

But we do not even go to discover that principle, because 2 rear fans already show there is no airflow.

[Joke]

* Make sure the top fan is blowing _out_ from the case. I have a suspicion it's mounted the wrong way, so if that's the case just flip it over.
(There is a dust filter over the top fan openings, which might give the impression that air should come in there. You want the hot air going out, so remove the filter.)

* Consider adding a second fan at the top, but if you decide to keep using just one then block the other opening.

IMO 2 or 3 fans blowing out from the case should be enough. 65W CPU + 120W GPU is not a lot of heat to vent.

(My old PC with a i7 3770K (77W) + AMD R9 290 (225W) ran fine with only two fans (1 top and 1 back. I was trying to make a silent PC, so had as few fans as possible)

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Joke:

* Make sure the top fan is blowing _out_ from the case. I have a suspicion it's mounted the wrong way, so if that's the case just flip it over.
(There is a dust filter over the top fan openings, which might give the impression that air should come in there. You want the hot air going out, so remove the filter.)

* Consider adding a second fan at the top, but if you decide to keep using just one then block the other opening.

IMO 2 or 3 fans blowing out from the case should be enough. 65W CPU + 120W GPU is not a lot of heat to vent.

(My old PC with a i7 3770K (77W) + AMD R9 290 (225W) ran fine with only two fans (1 top and 1 back. I was trying to make a silent PC, so had as few fans as possible)

A fan that blows out only affects a small area.
You do not create airflow in a square with one fan blowing out.

[invision2212]

the ryzen 5 3600 stock cooler isnt very good. i just build a pc using that stock cooler and the CPU temp hit 85c after 5min. i then removed it and used a cooler master 212 evo i had and the temps dropped to 70c.

getting front air intakes will help cool your pc a lot. but i would also look into getting a new cpu cooler as well.

[C Λ И K Λ T]

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[Peroxide Flowers]

Thank you for the speedy assistance.

I'll start off with the two intakes at the front. Would it be an idea to have both the rear fans as output, instead of just the top one?

If I'm still not happy with the temp, I'll look at upgrading the CPU cooler.

This case does need more RGB, so this seems to be a perfect excuse.

With the panel off, CPU temp was constantly fluctuating (as expected with increased airflow) between 44 and 77, averaging in the low to mid 50s. I've put it back on so I can test both CPU and case temps after a game on Saturday.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Peroxide Flowers:

Would it be an idea to have both the rear fans as output, instead of just the top one?

No wonder your case heated up.
One fan kept the heat in, the other lowered the pressure to make sure it can not escape in other places.

One side out, one side in = air flow through the case

[[☥] - CJ -]

Rear should be kept as exhaust
Top could be changed to intake if needed

But you definitely need front intake fans.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Top could be changed to intake if needed

Why would you put an intake on top to fight against the physic that moves warm air up?

The goal of air cooling is to move warm air away. Not blowing it around or back.