SALVVTORE Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:02pm
Years of DOWNLOADING ISSUES
Hi, so since I have become a PC gamer I have had issues with downloading games on steam.
Being new to PC gaming about 3-4 years ago I thought it was my Internet causes issues with downloading new games on steam..

Well after multiple moves, and now different games on different launchers not to mention 1GB internet speed both up and download....

I have undoubtedly came to the conclusion... that the issue is indeed.... STEAM.


So for years.. my games when downloading have not only spiked from top of what speeds I am supposed to download at... 30MB/s - 50 MB/s depending on my internet at the time..

but also.. and more frequently... go down to 5mb/s all the way to kb/s and 0 mb/s

it frequently stops downloading and starts continuously.

For example...

Hit download...

47MB/s .... 2 seconds later... 23Mb/s .... 2 seconds later.... 0Mb/s....

7 Seconds later... Random Mb/s then 0mb/s then random then 0mb/s for 5 seconds to 10...

it varies....

when it does download ....consistently... which is barely ever... it is on dial-up... speeds.





I have google'd this issue and went through all steps.... on multiple pages...

to no help...

changed download regions, clear cache.. every time...
nothing..

Went to YouTube... followed video's..... basically doing the same steps...

and telling me the obvious... ones as well...

Reset your modem... router... restart PC... validate steam... etc etc..


nothing has been helping....

I download games on Epic Games Launcher... NO PROBLEMS. downloads at High rate of speeds no stops...


I download on BattleState Games Launchers... NO PROBLEMS....

Origins... no problems...

Battle Eye... No problems...

Microsoft store... no problems... and ... its Microsoft store.......



Steam.... the amazing all around loved hub for PC gamers...

Problems..

Games that i should be downloading in minutes with 1 GB download speeds...

take me hours and hours.



I don't Know what to do anymore..

I now tend to buy as many games off Steam as I can at this point in time.


I hope someone can help.


Thanks for caring enough to read, I appreciate your time and help.

Thank you!
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Mad Scientist Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:10pm 
Service speed does not mean you can attain and sustain that speed.
Downloads are limited by mainboard, cpu, hdd/ssd/nvme speeds. Look at the graph when downloading via steam, chances are it'll download part (a chunk), and then the disk usage goes up. Keep in mind these chunks are compressed to make a smaller download, and the CPU is used to unpack the chunks into their full size.

Now if you have a good CPU and are downloading to an SSD or NVME drive, the speeds can usually sustain the entire time if the CPU is not weak. You're looking for what part is hitting 100% when it fails to sustain the download speed.

In the future, please don't blame Steam or any one company for the lack of understanding the download/install systems and your systems limitations.
Last edited by Mad Scientist; Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:18pm
SALVVTORE Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:20pm 
Such a pompous response.

I Have a I7 7700k with 16 gigs of ram, a 1070 and SSD and HDD

I have one game on my SSD and all others games on my 8 TB HD

Every other launcher... and game I download is able to Sustain High speeds with minimal stoppage, if any, with games bigger then the ones Im downloading on steam.

I can download Candy Crush on steam and still have the same issue
Last edited by SALVVTORE; Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:24pm
Mad Scientist Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
Such a pompous response.
Not liking the response doesn't make it pompous; it's mostly factually correct people lack the hardware to deal with compressed packages a majority of the time, especially with the given download speed(s).

Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
I Have a I7 7700k with 16 gigs of ram, a 1070 and SSD and HDD
GPU has no bearing on the subject. 7700k isn't that great for high speed download vs compression compared to modern CPUs and Workstation CPUs. This is likely your bottleneck.

Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
I have one game on my SSD and all others games on my 8 TB HD
That'll do it, CPU and HDD combination. You can't complain of issues with compressed packages and wanting to sustain the download/install speed, if you're not willing to have the hardware to continually handle such demands.

Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
Every other launcher... and game I download is able to Sustain High speeds with minimal stoppage if any with games bigger then the ones Im downloading on steam.
Those ones don't usually compress their packages to make the download smaller


SALVVTORE Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:29pm 
I have had the same issue when I was downloading games onto my SSD which I only ever have one game on my SSD, Whichever game that may be at the time.

So your telling me the Issue I am having is because my hardware is insufficient to handle this compression.. Yet when compared to the other people I know with sub-par PC's compared to my own with even worse CPU's and HDD that download the same games with no Stoppages and High speeds are somehow better hardware then my own?
Last edited by SALVVTORE; Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:30pm
Mad Scientist Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
I have had the same issue when I was downloading games onto my SSD which I only ever have one game on my SSD, Whichever game that may be at the time.

So your telling me the Issue I am having is because my hardware is insufficient to handle this compression.. Yet when compared to the other people I know with sub-par PC's compared to my own with even worse CPU's and HDD that download the same games with no Stoppages and High speeds are somehow better hardware then my own?
I extremely doubt the issue is the same when downloading to an SSD, it will vary - else the CPU is again - the source of the bottleneck. One fast part does not mean the system will run at the fastest parts speed, it will operate at the limiting part, and there are contributing factors to that parts performance.

If people with "sub-par PCs" are downloading faster than you, then you're clearly doing something wrong. If you're using an A/V, whitelist steam entirely to remove the chance of it scanning every single file downloading and decompressing or temporarily close it and see if it replicates.

Issue is on your end, not Steams end.
SALVVTORE Sep 27, 2021 @ 4:37pm 
I shut down the only anti-virus I have which is Windows. Ive Disabled it on every front, Restarted my PC and it is the same issue. And yes I have the same issue even when downloading to my SSD.
Botovetskiy Sep 27, 2021 @ 5:12pm 
Deinfitely Ubisoft if it's text pertaining to a particular game, the rep either misunderstood you or just didn't want to deal with it.
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Iceira Sep 27, 2021 @ 7:00pm 
This is one of them things many forget.

Example download speed conversions
Advertised Connection Speed Est. Max Steam Download Speed
3 megabits/second 384 KB/S
5 megabits/second 640 KB/S
15 megabits/second 1.9 MB/S
20 megabits/second 2.5 MB/S
30 megabits/second 3.75 MB/S
50 megabits/second 6.25 MB/S


How to switch Steam's download information from bytes to bits
Go to Steam > Settings > Downloads tab
On the Downloads tab check the Display download rates in bits per second box

from steam guide sectons
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then speedtest google it ( do you get what you paid for. ( and sense you dont complain over other DL zone then you do. ( this dont ruleout own isp route into steam can still be congested. again dont sounds like that.

rest is your pc that cant unpack and write data fast enough so speed drops.

steam DL manager is one thing, see windows Resource manager for disk usage if 100% then it wont DL before its down writing.

and do have enough free space anything lesser then 250gb on a 50gb DL with unpack ratio 1 to 5 can be seen as to little room, ( its funny noone complain then disk was new and empty ) you need a faulthy disk or cable or controller for that. )

do not have red color bar on disk view in the my computer in windows OS ( thats the 10% warning or disk near full show and tell
, problem is small disk dont like 10% of a 125 or 250gb wont fix a 50gb DL issue thats a 2TB disk drive thats 200gb alot better leftovers free room.

and just so you get it, soon noone will reply or help you if you dont have 1TB or 500gb free that is soon seen as user own problem.

reply will be anything lesser then 500gb free on 100gb DL thats your problem.
can you see the math here 1 to 5 unpack ration still hold.

there is even games that dont match storage game requirements ( or content has been update from devs or user , or collection that dont calc all the things right, again not a steam issue, that user dont have enough free space.

you can find 1000 of post with this even Laptop user with more slowness in top of this.

ps.
there is alot of tech or experience gamers info here learn over several years, simple not so easy to explan.

in a few years maybe 4 years only, from now that free space might be 1TB or you have a issue.

then 1 games is 100gb, free space goes away very fast. ( seen plenty of them ) new game title has expand in install size, you dont need to be shelock homles for that part. ( and you still need free room for update and even on OS disk for document save game or where ever it dump user data.

so all this is your problem, and soon noone will help or explan it. 500gb is nothing today
Last edited by Iceira; Sep 27, 2021 @ 7:21pm
WarBucks Sep 27, 2021 @ 9:09pm 




Originally posted by Hella Dubbz:
Hi, so since I have become a PC gamer I have had issues with downloading games on steam.
Being new to PC gaming about 3-4 years ago I thought it was my Internet causes issues with downloading new games on steam..

Well after multiple moves, and now different games on different launchers not to mention 1GB internet speed both up and download....

I have undoubtedly came to the conclusion... that the issue is indeed.... STEAM.


So for years.. my games when downloading have not only spiked from top of what speeds I am supposed to download at... 30MB/s - 50 MB/s depending on my internet at the time..

but also.. and more frequently... go down to 5mb/s all the way to kb/s and 0 mb/s

it frequently stops downloading and starts continuously.

For example...

Hit download...

47MB/s .... 2 seconds later... 23Mb/s .... 2 seconds later.... 0Mb/s....

7 Seconds later... Random Mb/s then 0mb/s then random then 0mb/s for 5 seconds to 10...

it varies....

when it does download ....consistently... which is barely ever... it is on dial-up... speeds.





I have google'd this issue and went through all steps.... on multiple pages...

to no help...

changed download regions, clear cache.. every time...
nothing..

Went to YouTube... followed video's..... basically doing the same steps...

and telling me the obvious... ones as well...

Reset your modem... router... restart PC... validate steam... etc etc..


nothing has been helping....

I download games on Epic Games Launcher... NO PROBLEMS. downloads at High rate of speeds no stops...


I download on BattleState Games Launchers... NO PROBLEMS....

Origins... no problems...

Battle Eye... No problems...

Microsoft store... no problems... and ... its Microsoft store.......



Steam.... the amazing all around loved hub for PC gamers...

Problems..

Games that i should be downloading in minutes with 1 GB download speeds...

take me hours and hours.



I don't Know what to do anymore..

I now tend to buy as many games off Steam as I can at this point in time.


I hope someone can help.


Thanks for caring enough to read, I appreciate your time and help.

Thank you!


The first thing I would look at is your routers QOS settings. In a nutshell l, it may be tagging steam downloads as ftp and giving them low priority after 30 seconds. I would test with the QOS setting completely off.

Have you tried saying screw it and just reinstalling windows from like a USB stick. Im talking format the entire OS drive then at least you know it isnt some other software. Not to mention windows 10s updates in 2019 really messed up the whole localappdata folder permissions extemely bad. Which is where steam also puts files.
Last edited by WarBucks; Sep 27, 2021 @ 9:10pm
Nx Machina Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:02pm 
I have the same speed on ALL PC clients when just downloading games.

I have variations on ALL PC clients when it comes to patching games.

Note: I have some of the same games on Steam as GOG Galaxy and they download and install with no issues and within the same timeframe.
Last edited by Nx Machina; Sep 28, 2021 @ 5:13am
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Sep 27, 2021 @ 11:09pm 
Things you can check into, and see if can sort out the issue. As others have pointed speed isn't an issue for Steam, be it in truth can depend on the person base on where they're at, the network infrastructure in your area lead to server, and so on.

- If using VPN, may cause issues.

- If using custom DNS service depending which one may cause issues.

- If using 3rd party software to manage incoming, and out going traffic, or even 3rd party anti virus affecting apps behavior may cause issues.

- If using custom firewall, and blocking thing could affect performance.

- Flushing your network might fix things, open command promt as admin, and give this a try, then restart PC and test, do things in order.

netsh winsock reset
netsh int ip reset

If not working still try these in order, then restart, and test.

ipconfig /release
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /renew


Also reboot modem & router by simply unpluging power cable to them for a minute, then replug power cable.

Things you can try, is changing download region, you can try Canada - Toronto see if that improve anything for you. If you were using DNS service, either try another one, or turn back to default.


For information of understanding, the differences of MBps, and Mbps.

MBps = Megabyte per second
MBps = Megabit per second
1 MBps = 8 Mbps
8 Mbps = 1 MBps
HendrikNaToR Aug 11, 2022 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by HellaDubbz:
Hi, so since I have become a PC gamer I have had issues with downloading games on steam.
Being new to PC gaming about 3-4 years ago I thought it was my Internet causes issues with downloading new games on steam..

Well after multiple moves, and now different games on different launchers not to mention 1GB internet speed both up and download....

I have undoubtedly came to the conclusion... that the issue is indeed.... STEAM.


So for years.. my games when downloading have not only spiked from top of what speeds I am supposed to download at... 30MB/s - 50 MB/s depending on my internet at the time..

but also.. and more frequently... go down to 5mb/s all the way to kb/s and 0 mb/s

it frequently stops downloading and starts continuously.

For example...

Hit download...

47MB/s .... 2 seconds later... 23Mb/s .... 2 seconds later.... 0Mb/s....

7 Seconds later... Random Mb/s then 0mb/s then random then 0mb/s for 5 seconds to 10...

it varies....

when it does download ....consistently... which is barely ever... it is on dial-up... speeds.





I have google'd this issue and went through all steps.... on multiple pages...

to no help...

changed download regions, clear cache.. every time...
nothing..

Went to YouTube... followed video's..... basically doing the same steps...

and telling me the obvious... ones as well...

Reset your modem... router... restart PC... validate steam... etc etc..


nothing has been helping....

I download games on Epic Games Launcher... NO PROBLEMS. downloads at High rate of speeds no stops...


I download on BattleState Games Launchers... NO PROBLEMS....

Origins... no problems...

Battle Eye... No problems...

Microsoft store... no problems... and ... its Microsoft store.......



Steam.... the amazing all around loved hub for PC gamers...

Problems..

Games that i should be downloading in minutes with 1 GB download speeds...

take me hours and hours.



I don't Know what to do anymore..

I now tend to buy as many games off Steam as I can at this point in time.


I hope someone can help.


Thanks for caring enough to read, I appreciate your time and help.

Thank you!


Did you ever manage to fix this issue, i have the exact problem right now?
Iceira Aug 11, 2022 @ 7:07pm 
Use windows Resource manager if disk is 100% busy that why you cant keep up write income network packet and pc cant handle it fast enough to unpack scan and write it. ( disk Drive is the bottleneck. but a better pc with faster Driver writing speed )

harddisk still slowest media in our pc.
Last edited by Iceira; Aug 11, 2022 @ 7:08pm
HendrikNaToR Aug 12, 2022 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
Use windows Resource manager if disk is 100% busy that why you cant keep up write income network packet and pc cant handle it fast enough to unpack scan and write it. ( disk Drive is the bottleneck. but a better pc with faster Driver writing speed )

harddisk still slowest media in our pc.

I have a brand new Western digital NVMe, also the download speed was perfect for a while and then just one day it started being inconsistent and dropping to 0mbs constantly.
nullable Aug 12, 2022 @ 9:05am 
Millions of people can download without issues.

Your ISP can be having an issue. They could be throttling Steam. You could have some recent configuration change on your system that has some impact. There's a lot of variables, so while the symptoms may be similar the cause is different and there may not be a one solution that fixes it.

You kinda need to figure out what the root cause is, and then address it.

If you could try downloading on a different connection and had no issue there, for example, that would kinda point to your ISP. If you had a friend try their system on your connection and they suddenly had an issue that would also point to your ISP. If they didn't have an issue, it might point to your system.

Regardless narrowing things down makes solving the problem easier.
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