Steam downloading slow on fast drive/fast network + restarting download

[Big_Bad_E]

Currently I am trying to download an update for Rainbow Six Siege.

Steam is downloading it at ~12 MB/s, 14.5 MB/s peak.
My C drive (which is where it is being downloaded onto) only has windows and Rainbow Six Siege.

I have a Samsung 860 SSD, which has a read/write of around 300 MB/s.
My network is ~80 MB/s up ~80 MB/s down, Google Fiber with wifi connection (weird setup).
I cleared the download cache, set the server to be the one nearest to me (USA server), set the priority to be highest.
When looking at Task Manager it reports my Disk is at ~8% and Network is ~8%, but the Performance tab seems weird atleast to me.
Here are some screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/R4rqCxr

The download has also restarted ~3 times, I just cleared the download cache and tried again so hopefully it will work.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Your drive isnt going to work as hard as it can when downloading a game.

Your internet connection will work as fast as the steam server allows and usually wont max out, especially over wifi.
As for your drive, it'll only work as much as each individual data file needs

Benchmarks are more likely to max out your SSD's Read/Write than downloading a game will, its just how things work.

a CPU can also limit things somewhat as well
Very high download speeds can tax the CPU a bit, so depending on the CPU a bottleneck could happen.

[UTFapolloMarine]

could be to many processes via task manager

[_I_]

could be cpu or hdd limiting it

steam downloads in steps
1. allocate space on disk (hdd)
2. populate files (download)
3. unpack (cpu/hdd)
4. move to steamapps (hdd)

[vadim]

@OP: I bet, you don't distinguish megabits and megabytes.

[just.kamk /idle]

OPs values are all over the place, IMHO.

From his screenshot:

The Ethernet tab (My setup is ethernet connected to a Google Home thing, which is receiving a wifi signal because my wifi card is trash).

I kinda got a feeling this is the bottleneck.

Btw.: potential percentage with wifi signals in task manager, or other tools, are usually crap. Net bandwith is a huge difference regarding wireless.

[B-o-B]

Ye Ethernet values are fixed usually, yours is registering the actual connected speed of that WiFi, which if measured wrong can be a quarter of what you actually get, generally speaking.

Tried this ye?

How do I diagnose and report network problems?
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8861-QOHN-2234

Troubleshooting Network Connectivity
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493&l=

You could also check your Router isn't near any large TVs or sources of large magnetic or electrical appliances. Never hurts to move something to test.

[Talby]

If you are downloading at 12MB/s that is 96mbps and 14.5MB/s is 116 mbps - you’re getting your full connection speed and then some. All is well...

[Big_Bad_E]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Your drive isnt going to work as hard as it can when downloading a game.

Your internet connection will work as fast as the steam server allows and usually wont max out, especially over wifi.
As for your drive, it'll only work as much as each individual data file needs

Benchmarks are more likely to max out your SSD's Read/Write than downloading a game will, its just how things work.

a CPU can also limit things somewhat as well
Very high download speeds can tax the CPU a bit, so depending on the CPU a bottleneck could happen.

CPU is AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Quad-Core, can definitely handle it.

I don't know what a benchmark is, pleasa eclarify and I will check.

Why would it max out, the average Steam download speed is ~40 MB/s

Originally posted by POUusnavy:

could be to many processes via task manager

Stopped all extra tasks, including background tasks like AMD user experience, no dice.

Originally posted by _I_:

could be cpu or hdd limiting it

steam downloads in steps
1. allocate space on disk (hdd)
2. populate files (download)
3. unpack (cpu/hdd)
4. move to steamapps (hdd)

Steam is installed in on D drive (slow), but the download is set to C drive so I doubt that will limit it. CPU is good enough for it.

Originally posted by vadim:

@OP: I bet, you don't distinguish megabits and megabytes.

megabits = 1 million bits
megabytes = 1 million bytes (byte = 8 bits)

And don't tell me to delete System32/reset my ip, I'm not an idiot.

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Originally posted by kamk /idle:

OPs values are all over the place, IMHO.

From his screenshot:

The Ethernet tab (My setup is ethernet connected to a Google Home thing, which is receiving a wifi signal because my wifi card is trash).

I kinda got a feeling this is the bottleneck.

Btw.: potential percentage with wifi signals in task manager, or other tools, are usually crap. Net bandwith is a huge difference regarding wireless.

Internet speed tests don't show any bottlenecks, and other downloads have reached 40 MB/s.

I know Task Manager is inconsistant (Yeah 99% sure my C drive is being used) but I think it decently shows that my drive isn't bottlenecking. Same with my internet, atleast from what I've seen.
I'm 99% sure this is a Steam problem and not a network problem.

Originally posted by b☣bz:

Ye Ethernet values are fixed usually, yours is registering the actual connected speed of that WiFi, which if measured wrong can be a quarter of what you actually get, generally speaking.

Tried this ye?

How do I diagnose and report network problems?
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8861-QOHN-2234

Troubleshooting Network Connectivity
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493&l=

You could also check your Router isn't near any large TVs or sources of large magnetic or electrical appliances. Never hurts to move something to test.

It is a Google Home network receiver connected to my PC through internet (Was getting them all over my house so just put one near my PC cause the internet card is trash and use my phone/PC mostly in my PC room), it is not blocked by any electronics.

https://imgur.com/a/IbpcxD3

Speedtest on speedtest.net vs speedtest on google.
I have no idea why speedtest.net is reporting such high values, it has never done that for me.

Looking through the articles they seem to be for lack of a connection, not for slow connections.

Thanks for the help all (except vadim), I am running Malwarebytes on the off chance I have some weird virus.

[[☥] - CJ -]

246Mbps is 30MB/s effective speed whereas 80Mbps is 10MB/s
So is it possible you are just confusing yourself?

Steam will only download at speeds that the server you are downloading from is capable of and any bandwidth limitations it may or may not have.

I have Gigabit and Steam is never remotely close to reaching those max possible download speeds.

I think you are expecting more from what you have when what you are getting is actually normal

[Talby]

So the problem is steam downloads are very slow, sometimes that is normal.

I have FIOS gig and have seen steam max out my connection at 115MB/s. Also see it crawling at times as slow as 10MB/s. It depends on when / what / where that's the nature of cloud you are at their mercy and many other factors as well.

I would say keep an eye on it, for me it's usually very fast over 50MB/s but I am near DC plenty of bandwidth in my area. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Big_Bad_E]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

246Mbps is 30MB/s effective speed whereas 80Mbps is 10MB/s
So is it possible you are just confusing yourself?

Steam will only download at speeds that the server you are downloading from is capable of and any bandwidth limitations it may or may not have.

I have Gigabit and Steam is never remotely close to reaching those max possible download speeds.

I think you are expecting more from what you have when what you are getting is actually normal

The download restarted for the 4th time just now.

Did not notice it was in Mbps, but still there is a large difference between 30 Mbps and 15 Mbps, that cuts my long download time in half.

Currently my download shows "83.5/83.5 GB" but the progress bar restarted and the estimated time is 7 days.

Originally posted by Talby:

So the problem is steam downloads are very slow, sometimes that is normal.

I have FIOS gig and have seen steam max out my connection at 115MB/s. Also see it crawling at times as slow as 10MB/s. It depends on when / what / where that's the nature of cloud you are at their mercy and many other factors as well.

I would say keep an eye on it, for me it's usually very fast over 50MB/s but I am near DC plenty of bandwidth in my area. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

The main problem is the download restart and estimated 7 day time.

now the estimation is at 8-10 hours, fluctuating but staying around there, but there is no disk/network usage reported by Steam, but Task Manager reports Disk usage. I think it is just doing some file operations but I thought that was included in the initial progress bar

[[☥] - CJ -]

Try changing the download location, the server could be having issues.
And make sure nothing else is using your connection

[Big_Bad_E]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Try changing the download location, the server could be having issues.
And make sure nothing else is using your connection

Tried changing it twice, I think I am just stuck with like 15 MB/s.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Guess its server limited then, try later tonight, could be a peak hours problem.

[bruno.riosevangelista]

My internet is ok, and the download si still vey slow.