Lag & shuttering

[Dr Deadsoul69]

Getting lag & shuttering in every game after disabling vsync & windows full screen optimisation. The frame rates are going higher than refresh rate but the games are shuttering terribly. Like 80 fps is dropping to 10 fps for 1 seconds & it is happening simultaneously. But if I turn on vsync or full screen optimisation then shuttering is disappearing but the fps is low with high input lag.

[Waryth]

This is what you call screen tearing if your FPS exceeds your refresh rate without V-Sync ON/ENABLED. Your monitor can't keep up with the amount of FPS that your graphics card can produce.

V-Sync (Vertical Synchronization) in every game settings let's your graphics card produce lesser FPS to matches your monitor's refresh rate (usually 60 Hz in most standard monitors) so you won't get frame tearing.

This means that if you have 60 Hz monitor, you'll get 60 FPS capped at most if when you have V-Sync enabled and you'll get smooth motion at the cost of higher response time/input lag.

Its because more FPS = more motion which means lower response time/input lag.

You either have it ON or OFF based on my explanation given above or learning more technical info to improve your gameplay.

NVIDIA/AMD Graphics Card has their own sync for better performance, not sure about Intel so you don't have this privilege when using Intel. (Adaptive V-Sync and Enhance Sync) You might wanna look them up by yourself.

The solution is either buy a higher refresh rate monitor 144 Hz is the recommended one used by many or try to overclock your monitor to a higher refresh rate if you can't afford one yet and set an FPS cap.

Let's say you have 60 Hz Monitor, overclock it to 60+ Hz let's say..75 Hz then cap your FPS at 70, 71, 72, or 73. You'll need a third party program to do this and this might cause damage to your monitor as its not sold as 75 Hz and straining it to that will most likely lower its lifespan.

How I resolve this issue:

I have an AMD Graphics Card and a 75 Hz Monitor so I can run with at least 75 FPS at max, anything beyond that is going to give me screen tearing.

AMD has a thing called Enhanced Sync which automatically turns V-Sync OFF whenever it reaches higher FPS and will remove screen tearing. There's a downside to it, certain games may appear like frame skipping as it dumps excess frames. It works on some games mostly FPS and it doesn't work on third person games.

[Dr Deadsoul69]

I set my frames to 58 fps from max frame rate option in Nvidia control panel. But the issue is still same.

[Iceira]

if the monitor can go there, then its not monitor fault its hes graphic card that cant keep up.

monitor in resolution/hz if they cant do it, it will turn black and maybe even burnout, ( this happend in dos age age then driver and settings was maybe not that great and did not follow standard )

i bet it this you ment. but somehow you switch it.

do not forget Monitor is a output unit just like a printer, it recive its data it was build for, it will always be the transmitter that doing it

or this
Your monitor can keep up with the amount of FPS that your graphics card can produce.
but the graphic card cant.

just google brand monitor spec what it was build for.

you can also say Monitor is dump unit. ( it cant do things it was not build for ) so op could be right. if its somehow possible to break specification then you need to contact brand monitor manufactory, but i real doubt it that this is the case.

trust me on this if you put monitor in things it cant do, you have huge chance to harm it.
and this is why i said , look more like a gfx card issue.

but everything is valid enough what Waryth say.

[Iceira]

you can also say gfxcard overload, what monitor can handle and thats why you need v-sync on
and again monitor is outdate. ( and dont forget some games dont like things above 60hz game engine is build to this only. )

again it matter what monitor spec is.

and did you even check Monitor brand support page for driver update, if they even made one, or just use windows default drivers.

[Dr Deadsoul69]

I am using a laptop. And all drivers comes in a single cd. But still I check all driver update manually from device manager. I last encountered this problem on November 2019 after disabling vsync & windows full screen optimisation for the first time in Rainbow Six Siege & in csgo from both GeForce control panel & from in-game settings. I tried many things but ultimately I got 2 suggestions from internet
1. Installing Microsoft visual c++
2. Increasing explorer.exe priority to high & any one svchost priority to above normal.
But somehow idk that problem was resolved. But now after 2 months the problem appeared again. And it is not resolving by any how. I checked that vc_redist is installed correctly. And increasing priority is also not working.

[Cathulhu]

Never ever rely on the device manager for driver updates.
Download and install the latest drivers from the website of the manufacturer.

[Iceira]

Dr Debal の投稿を引用：

I am using a laptop. And all drivers comes in a single cd. But still I check all driver update manually from device manager. I last encountered this problem on November 2019 after disabling vsync & windows full screen optimisation for the first time in Rainbow Six Siege & in csgo from both GeForce control panel & from in-game settings. I tried many things but ultimately I got 2 suggestions from internet
1. Installing Microsoft visual c++
2. Increasing explorer.exe priority to high & any one svchost priority to above normal.
But somehow idk that problem was resolved. But now after 2 months the problem appeared again. And it is not resolving by any how. I checked that vc_redist is installed correctly. And increasing priority is also not working.

ohh boy , a laptop, this is a diffrent matter now.

check start menu , most have auto update app that fix all drivers and bios. if not goto
that laptop brand support site and use auto update tool app there.

and ofc. you are using Full Performance , if you play in Balance mode then you have reduce system resources.

and what ever monitor settings is resolution/hz you keep them and i bet you will always have vsync on i doubt a laptop screen will never have 144hz require to much power. so forget it.

and never play 3D games without powercord and watchout for with and without powercord setting edit in what performnce you are using.

and i doubt even if you have extra monitor attach it will solve the laptop issue then its build for max power saveing , its actual everything what a desktop is not, then it was ment to be a remote device that try save power.

and that is why you suffer in FPS, and wrong user settings and option laptop is not build for.

do not use and app that bypass what is recommend by own brand.
( dont forget this has been seen on desktop pc, point is if screen do burnout then laptop lost its point , its not that simple to get new screen, and expensive, its not like desktop where we can add new monitor. )

[Iceira]

ohh another issue who said you are using right primary Graphic card , this is seen before with Intel and nvidia and intel onboard is primary. if you cant change this in nvidia controll panel or bios, then contact Brand support

some games ask system and dont have own settings. intergrated intel Graphics card can both be a combi or dual today. and sometimes cant be turn off , and dont need to but you can still use wrong card to run game. if laptop has a FULL bloods 3D card like AMD or Nvidia card.

[Dr Deadsoul69]

I went to Asus website to check newer driver update but all drivers are from 2016 to 2015 after downloading everything it is saying that I have already newer version installed.
I am using ultimate performance power plan. And I play games with power cord plugged in.

[Iceira]

Dr Debal の投稿を引用：

I went to Asus website to check newer driver update but all drivers are from 2016 to 2015 after downloading everything it is saying that I have already newer version installed.
I am using ultimate performance power plan. And I play games with power cord plugged in.

ok , then check what is primary card then ? ( and do you even have a nvidia or amd or intel only )

noone here knows the laptop asus model you have or what game you try to run and do you even have game requirement.

[Dr Deadsoul69]

I have one Nvidia GeForce 930m 2gb & one Intel HD 5500 2gb. I have tried Rainbow Six Siege, Csgo & pubg lite. All games are giving me the same problem. Fps are above 60, even csgo has above 100. But games are shuttering / giving micro lag... After 1 hour of playing the shuttering is terrible even unplayable.

[Iceira]

Dr Debal の投稿を引用：

I have one Nvidia GeForce 930m 2gb & one Intel HD 5500 2gb. I have tried Rainbow Six Siege, Csgo & pubg lite. All games are giving me the same problem. Fps are above 60, even csgo has above 100. But games are shuttering / giving micro lag... After 1 hour of playing the shuttering is terrible even unplayable.

vsync on, and do reinstall gfx driver with advance option and make clean install then checkbox is there. ( this is almost know as windows core update issue, more gamers has notice this, but proof it i can not, its like core update and then drivers dont work as intended.

ps.
also try safe boot mode to test if you have other app that interference with games.

try iobit driver booster, ( i dont give a ratts butt about asus anymore, they dont update all the thirdpart drivers that is in our laptop, its like they focus on old stability driver and not optimize with newest anymore. do know the diffrence here or consequence of it.

problem is new optimized driver has seem to fix issue, problem is most laptop brand or mortherboard driver dont care about optimized drivers any more.
not saying this is it, but why run slow optimized driver that reduce performance.
learn that free app and learn to rollback drivers in it , its not always newest driver that work best, but it should be , but other things can cause why it dont work better.

[Iceira]

Dr Debal の投稿を引用：

I have one Nvidia GeForce 930m 2gb & one Intel HD 5500 2gb. I have tried Rainbow Six Siege, Csgo & pubg lite. All games are giving me the same problem. Fps are above 60, even csgo has above 100. But games are shuttering / giving micro lag... After 1 hour of playing the shuttering is terrible even unplayable.

how much ram, and could it be a harddisk issue and pc use swapfile, and then you start to get this microlag, ( not all laptop harddisk is as fast as many think, try make a copy test ) see mb/s or get harddisk test app ) maybe even goto that Brand support page.

and yet it could still be swapfile issue . if 8gb ram then lock swapfile to 4 or 8gb so it dont waste time on resize it, ( depend on other game requirements and ram ofc. )
if you have 16 ( turn it off or make 4gb or lesser 1024mb lock or same size as its harddisk cache size so it swap faster, some say turn it off actual make system slower. ( not sure if there is a diskdefragmenting app that can move this file to faster area on slave disk ( SSD disk dont have this issue )

and maybe this is the iss none SSD disk that is not fastest might want to defrag so game data is made as perls on a string , ( this is actual old tech knowledge, but with SSD today noone defrag harddisk anymore )

[Dr Deadsoul69]

Sounds like a time taking task. Ok I am doing it... Let's see if it helps or not. But my Nvidia GeForce driver is upto date I think it is 442 something. Because new 1000 max frame rate option is there. Ok I am going to do everything...

[Iceira]

Dr Debal の投稿を引用：

Sounds like a time taking task. Ok I am doing it... Let's see if it helps or not. But my Nvidia GeForce driver is upto date I think it is 442 something. Because new 1000 max frame rate option is there. Ok I am going to do everything...

do not OC, other then intel boost tech already doing it. ( you do not want to make things more unstable and actual might casue this yourself ( laptop could be seen as max OC, thats why intel boost was made. ) high boost in a short time, then needed