About Windows 10 Fast Startup option

[Mihai_89]

Hello

So back when i installed W10 i noticed that fast startup option is set by default and my PC boots a lot faster then it would.

But just wanted to ask.

Can fast startup damage or reduce the lifespan of my HDD ?

I'm using a 2TB HDD but it is about 5 years old now.

Would really like to know this because i'm kinda freaking out if this option actually damages or reduces the lifespan of my HDD or if it doesn't.

[ReBoot]

There's no way in the current technology world how that fast boot can do anything to your HDD. If anything, it would improve it's lifetime by reducing overall reads, but that's quite the stretch. Consider it having no causal connection to your HDD (not) dying at all.

[Mihai_89]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ReBoot:

There's no way in the current technology world how that fast boot can do anything to your HDD. If anything, it would improve it's lifetime by reducing overall reads, but that's quite the stretch. Consider it having no causal connection to your HDD (not) dying at all.

Are you sure ?

I mean i was thinking that if fast startup is enabled, it kinda "forces" the HDD to boot faster ? When it's ON then my PC boots in about 9-10 seconds as opposed to about 30 seconds when it's off.

I was thinking because it "forces" the HDD to boot faster it might be decreasing the HDD lifespan by doing this ?

[ReBoot]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ReBoot:

There's no way in the current technology world how that fast boot can do anything to your HDD. If anything, it would improve it's lifetime by reducing overall reads, but that's quite the stretch. Consider it having no causal connection to your HDD (not) dying at all.

Are you sure ?

You seem to be sure that fast boot does indeed damage your HDD. Fine. Do you have objective measurements? HDDs report their health status via SMART which can be read by e.g. SeaTools. Then there's the documentation from Microsoft on how fast boot works. Read it and present a logical scenario how that can damage your HDD. Until now, it seems like you either WANT fast boot to damage the HDD (because why would you not believe me it doesn't otherwise) or there's some conspiracy thinking involved. Both cases, you gotta admit, don't make sense.

[Mihai_89]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ReBoot:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Are you sure ?

You seem to be sure that fast boot does indeed damage your HDD. Fine. Do you have objective measurements? HDDs report their health status via SMART which can be read by e.g. SeaTools. Then there's the documentation from Microsoft on how fast boot works. Read it and present a logical scenario how that can damage your HDD. Until now, it seems like you either WANT fast boot to damage the HDD (because why would you not believe me it doesn't otherwise) or there's some conspiracy thinking involved. Both cases, you gotta admit, don't make sense.

You didn't read my 2nd post fully did you ?

I was only asking, NOT 100% sure if that is the case or not. I was only asking if the HDD is "forced" to boot faster because of this setting.

I didn't say or ask anything about SeaTools or Microsoft. Not really sure why you think i'm saying it's a conspiracy but from your post i would say if anything you think it's a conspiracy because i had a different opinion than yours.

[Brujeira]

Ah no, fast start doesn’t work like that. ReBoot will correct me if I’m wrong on this, but what it does is save important system stuff to the hard drive when it shuts down so that it can be loaded back in on startup. Much faster than starting from scratch, hence fast start.

Have I got that about right? Not thinking clearly - head cold.

[ReBoot]

By the time Windows (or really any OS that isn't hard-burned into the mainboard) boots, the HDD is already initialized by the BIOS. How could Windows even boot if it's boot loader couldn't have been loaded from the HDD?

[Mihai_89]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Brujeira:

Ah no, fast start doesn’t work like that. ReBoot will correct me if I’m wrong on this, but what it does is save important system stuff to the hard drive when it shuts down so that it can be loaded back in on startup. Much faster than starting from scratch, hence fast start.

Have I got that about right? Not thinking clearly - head cold.

Thanks for the info Brujeira and yes i know it does that.

My only concern is when it's using fast startup the PC boots a lot faster. By doing this i did not know if it decreases the HDD's lifespan, by booting faster i mean.

[Brujeira]

A HDD will never go faster than the top speed that it was designed to work at. If it could then the disc inside it could perhaps vibrate or wobble - that would cause instant catastrophic drive failure.

No need to worry about that - fast start is totally safe.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Brujeira:

Ah no, fast start doesn’t work like that. ReBoot will correct me if I’m wrong on this, but what it does is save important system stuff to the hard drive when it shuts down so that it can be loaded back in on startup. Much faster than starting from scratch, hence fast start.

Have I got that about right? Not thinking clearly - head cold.

Thanks for the info Brujeira and yes i know it does that.

My only concern is when it's using fast startup the PC boots a lot faster. By doing this i did not know if it decreases the HDD's lifespan, by booting faster i mean.

Do note fast startup can cause problems.

Here is some good info about fast startup.
https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

[Brujeira]

True enough, I had to disable it on my last Win 8 PC as the keyboard and mouse wouldn’t wake up after a fast start. Crappy Logitech drivers.

[Mihai_89]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 🎅Rockon🎅:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Thanks for the info Brujeira and yes i know it does that.

My only concern is when it's using fast startup the PC boots a lot faster. By doing this i did not know if it decreases the HDD's lifespan, by booting faster i mean.

Do note fast startup can cause problems.

Here is some good info about fast startup.
https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

Rockon, yeah i know that article i read it a few days ago i think, but if i remember right it didn't say anything about HDD lifespans regarding fast startup.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 🎅Rockon🎅:

Do note fast startup can cause problems.

Here is some good info about fast startup.
https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

Rockon, yeah i know that article i read it a few days ago i think, but if i remember right it didn't say anything about HDD lifespans regarding fast startup.

It will not shorten lifespan on your disc, all it does is make a snapshot of the system and save it in the hibenation file, on startup it will use that snap again, that's why it's faster if you are using a HDD on SSD there is not much difference.

As Brujeira say, there can be problems with certain drivers too.

Here is a bit more info.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup

[Mihai_89]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 🎅Rockon🎅:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Rockon, yeah i know that article i read it a few days ago i think, but if i remember right it didn't say anything about HDD lifespans regarding fast startup.

It will not shorten lifespan on your disc, all it does is make a snapshot of the system and save it in the hibenation file, and on startup it will use that snap again, that's why it's faster if you are on a HDD on a SSD there is not much difference.

As Brujeira say, there can be problems with certain drivers too.

Well then i might just leave it on. So far i've had no problems with drivers whatsover.

My only concern was for the 2TB HDD SATA 3 since it's about 5 years old. However i still have an older 250GB SATA 2 that is 12 years old and is still going like a champ.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mihai_89:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 🎅Rockon🎅:

It will not shorten lifespan on your disc, all it does is make a snapshot of the system and save it in the hibenation file, and on startup it will use that snap again, that's why it's faster if you are on a HDD on a SSD there is not much difference.

As Brujeira say, there can be problems with certain drivers too.

Well then i might just leave it on. So far i've had no problems with drivers whatsover.

My only concern was for the 2TB HDD SATA 3 since it's about 5 years old. However i still have an older 250 GB SATA 2 that is 12 years old and is still going like a champ.

If your computer seems to run fine there is no need to disable it, however if you at some point find your computer acting strange, try disabling it and see if it helps.

[Iceira]

well let me rock your boats, you are all wrong, in bios there is option use faster boot its about use 64bit from start before windows os overtake this.

then there are several apps that can modify frequent access file and put them infront of disk ( aka on fastest spind round/minute = higher throughput just like a old LP more data at edge then inside , problem is this dont work on SSD there are no moving part. they can only make a digital cleanup its more fix with spread out files and stuff like that.

so yeah OP you have a point but nothing is 100%true , i recall older disk defragmenting apps actual defrag SSD disk because they have not ID Harddisk correctly and that actual harm disk.
SSD disk only need a cleanup every year but it not a clean up its more a eletronic index master file index. and yes a good ide to delete temp first..

see example iobit defrag app they can see most SSD disk option , i bet other app might do same today, but then SSD was new most app still see as old slave disk and that cost alot of SSD drev i bet.