Profanity Censoring

[Thr3e]

How is it that we have no option to control our own viewing of censored(decided by others based on religion mostly) content? It's just silly that there would be a filter when all it does is cost money and infringe on our speech. If you don't want children to swear, then learn to discipline them properly and teach them not to by example. Google Safe Search does it's job perfectly, why not base your filter on a similar system where we have options.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

How is it that we have no option to control our own viewing of censored(decided by others based on religion mostly) content? It's just silly that there would be a filter when all it does is cost money and infringe on our speech. If you don't want children to swear, then learn to discipline them properly and teach them not to by example. Google Safe Search does it's job perfectly, why not base your filter on a similar system where we have options.

Because Valve does not want you to. It also works as a link filter.

There is no 1st amendment rights (or any speech rights) on the Steam forums.

People don't need to swear to convey what they want to say.

[SpunkyJones]

Learn to discuss things like an adult? Also there is no infringement on your speech, values forum, valves rules.

[Phantom]

The filter's integration is to prevent blatant profanity from parsing.

There's absolutely no need to do so on public discussions.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

How is it that we have no option to control our own viewing of censored(decided by others based on religion mostly) content? It's just silly that there would be a filter when all it does is cost money and infringe on our speech. If you don't want children to swear, then learn to discipline them properly and teach them not to by example. Google Safe Search does it's job perfectly, why not base your filter on a similar system where we have options.

Censoring profanity on the forums isn't "based on religion." It's based on acting like a mature adult. Also, using your own argument, if you want to swear then you should be "disciplined properly" or your parents didn't teach you how to act properly. Valve/Steam is not a government. They are not infringing on your "rights." You need to learn what the word "rights" means. Valve has the "right" to censor profanity on *their* forums.

[Thr3e]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

How is it that we have no option to control our own viewing of censored(decided by others based on religion mostly) content? It's just silly that there would be a filter when all it does is cost money and infringe on our speech. If you don't want children to swear, then learn to discipline them properly and teach them not to by example. Google Safe Search does it's job perfectly, why not base your filter on a similar system where we have options.

Because Valve does not want you to. It also works as a link filter.

There is no 1st amendment rights (or any speech rights) on the Steam forums.

People don't need to swear to convey what they want to say.

:qr:

1. Obviously Valve doesn't want you to. The question is why be so suppressive with no option for you own personal choice.

2. I never mentioned any rights, I merely stated that they are affecting our ability to speak freely.

3. Swearing is a personal choice. If you want to say something, you say it. Just the same way you felt the need to state three pointless ramarks that are either way too obvious, or taken out of context, or just plain irrelevant.

I will then restate the question: how the ♥♥♥♥ did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ steam turn into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of rubberized ♥♥♥♥♥-ass-♥♥♥♥♥-ass ♥♥♥♥ community for the most fearful of people?

Pardon my language!

[Thr3e]

I never said rights once, y'all gotta read! oh ya, i forgot to mention that swear words weren't just decided to be censored by religious groups, I figured saying mostly would have been good enough.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Because Valve does not want you to. It also works as a link filter.

There is no 1st amendment rights (or any speech rights) on the Steam forums.

People don't need to swear to convey what they want to say.

1. Obviously Valve doesn't want you to. The question is why be so suppressive with no option for you own personal choice.

2. I never mentioned any rights, I merely stated that they are affecting our ability to speak freely.

3. Swearing is a personal choice. If you want to say something, you say it. Just the same way you felt the need to state three pointless ramarks that are either way too obvious, or taken out of context, or just plain irrelevant.

I will then restate the question: how the ♥♥♥♥ did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ steam turn into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of rubberized ♥♥♥♥♥-ass-♥♥♥♥♥-ass ♥♥♥♥ community for the most fearful of people?

Pardon my language!

1. Because it is their forum.

2. You say, "infringe on our speech," which relates to a right. You don't have that here.

3. Personal choice is the irrelevant part.

It has always been this way.

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

I never said rights once, y'all gotta read! oh ya, i forgot to mention that swear words weren't just decided to be censored by religious groups, I figured saying mostly would have been good enough.

Refer to #2.

[The End.]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

1. Obviously Valve doesn't want you to. The question is why be so suppressive with no option for you own personal choice.

2. I never mentioned any rights, I merely stated that they are affecting our ability to speak freely.

3. Swearing is a personal choice. If you want to say something, you say it.

1: It's against Valve rules to swear, even when the words are censored it's a violation.
2: You have no right to speak freely on a privatly owned platform, Valves house, Valves rules.
3: No, not when you use a privately owned forum, then the owner decides what you can or can't say.

That is why there is no way to turn the filter off, users who like to talk like drunken sailors would see that as a "OK" to use profanity, and normal users would see more and more hearts in posts from immature people.

Civilized people don't need profanity to make a point.

[BossGalaga]

"Infringing on your speech" implies that you think you have a right to be rude and immature on the forums. You do not have a right. Steam is Valve's platform and they have a right to moderate it as they see fit. Yes, swearing is a personal choice and you can choose not to.

Again, you claimed that if people swear then it's because their parents didn't teach them right and they aren't properly disciplined so according to your argument in your first post, your parents sucked at raising you and didn't discipline you properly.

If you want a "community" where you can act like an idiot then there's already one for people like you. It's called Facebook. Enjoy.

[Grogwind]

Steam forums are privately run forums and steam has the right to run and moderate them as they see fit.

You are free not to use them if you don’t like how they are run.

[Winged One]

because it only hinders discussion.. why not converse in a mature manner, rather than cursing like a sailor because you somehow think its "cool"

[Brujeira]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Because Valve does not want you to. It also works as a link filter.

There is no 1st amendment rights (or any speech rights) on the Steam forums.

People don't need to swear to convey what they want to say.

:qr:

1. Obviously Valve doesn't want you to. The question is why be so suppressive with no option for you own personal choice.

2. I never mentioned any rights, I merely stated that they are affecting our ability to speak freely.

3. Swearing is a personal choice. If you want to say something, you say it. Just the same way you felt the need to state three pointless ramarks that are either way too obvious, or taken out of context, or just plain irrelevant.

I will then restate the question: how the ♥♥♥♥ did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ steam turn into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of rubberized ♥♥♥♥♥-ass-♥♥♥♥♥-ass ♥♥♥♥ community for the most fearful of people?

Pardon my language!

1. Because you agreed to it.

2. You agreed to that happening too.

3. You're perfectly free to swear as much as you want as long as you're OK with it getting censored out. Why? Because you said you were OK with it.

The minute you agree to the SSA... yet again, as Valve get you to sign up to it every time you buy absolutely anything, you agree that your interaction with other users should be guided by basic etiquette. And if you don't understand what that means then they even gave you this handy guide on the subject:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Now, you got two choices - keep your word or just keep whining. It doesn't really matter which option you choose, the filter's staying.

[Thr3e]

Originally posted by Brujeira:

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

1. Obviously Valve doesn't want you to. The question is why be so suppressive with no option for you own personal choice.

2. I never mentioned any rights, I merely stated that they are affecting our ability to speak freely.

3. Swearing is a personal choice. If you want to say something, you say it. Just the same way you felt the need to state three pointless ramarks that are either way too obvious, or taken out of context, or just plain irrelevant.

I will then restate the question: how the ♥♥♥♥ did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ steam turn into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of rubberized ♥♥♥♥♥-ass-♥♥♥♥♥-ass ♥♥♥♥ community for the most fearful of people?

Pardon my language!

1. Because you agreed to it.

2. You agreed to that happening too.

3. You're perfectly free to swear as much as you want as long as you're OK with it getting censored out. Why? Because you said you were OK with it.

The minute you agree to the SSA... yet again, as Valve get you to sign up to it every time you buy absolutely anything, you agree that your interaction with other users should be guided by basic etiquette. And if you don't understand what that means then they even gave you this handy guide on the subject:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Now, you got two choices - keep your word or just keep whining. It doesn't really matter which option you choose, the filter's staying.

This is a discussion, not whining. I personally don't swear very much but the whole idea is why no choice? Oh ya, because they said so. Such a dull answer. Also, obvious one again, when you install any app you agree to its terms lol, and obviously there is nothing to do about it. I'm gonna ask again, does anyone have an opinion on why steam would force the filter upon us without giving us the option to turn off the feature?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Use the search function.

[The End.]

Originally posted by DemascusRed:

does anyone have an opinion on why steam would force the filter upon us without giving us the option to turn off the feature?

You got the answer multiple times.
Because it's against the rules to use profanity.
Look for yourself https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810