market 15-day hold is instant?

[Shuaizu]

I think I broke something? When I go to list items on the market, they all say "This listing will be held for 15 days", but everything I listed (trading cards) sold instantly.. so am I missing something here?

[Phantom]

Certain items below $1 USD no longer require confirmation and will be instantly listed.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/8/1732089092450286491/

[Tev]

Originally posted by Robin3sk:

Certain items below $1 USD no longer require confirmation and will be instantly listed.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/8/1732089092450286491/

:yinyangflip:

So, even the hold period is taken off?

Because that's not mentioned anywhere in that article.

Not to doubt, but asking as I've used 2FA since forever and haven't much paid attention to the forums as of late.

EDIT

Although, it would make sense if hold period is included in that rule since its only purpose is to defend users without mobile 2FA, and when confirmation doesn't take place to begin with, then there's no practical benefit in having separate hardware based 2FA.

[Shuaizu]

Well how come it still says the listing will be held for 15 days?

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Teutep:

Originally posted by Robin3sk:

Certain items below $1 USD no longer require confirmation and will be instantly listed.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/8/1732089092450286491/

So, even the hold period is taken off?

Because that's not mentioned anywhere in that article.

Not to doubt, but asking as I've used 2FA since forever and haven't much paid attention to the forums as of late.

I might've misread the OP since this topic is raised many times - regarding instant listings without confirmation.

But, no, if you're not using the authenticator, holds shouldn't be removed.

In actuality, i haven't tested this though, and it could be this way.

Originally posted by Mochi ✿:

Well how come it still says the listing will be held for 15 days?

First of all, have you even been using the mobile authenticator?

If yes, then for how long?

[Tev]

If I were OP, I'd try listing something worthless at a considerably higher listing price than $1 USD, confirm it and see if it gets held. Try $2 USD for example.

If so, then we more or less have the answer.

[Shuaizu]

I don't think anybody understands what holds and confirms mean. No matter what, everything goes to the market. But if something is on hold, nobody can or will buy it until the hold is up. But it says the item will be held on EVERYTHING I try to list, even though they all sell instantly.

[Tev]

Originally posted by Mochi ✿:

I don't think anybody understands what holds and confirms mean. No matter what, everything goes to the market. But if something is on hold, nobody can or will buy it until the hold is up. But it says the item will be held on EVERYTHING I try to list, even though they all sell instantly.

We do.

Trading cards are under $1 USD and thus they don't get confirmations anymore when leaving the inventory. That much is covered in the article Robin3sk mentioned.

I said that it doesn't get held most likely due to the fact that when there's no confirmation to take place, there's no dependency on 2FA either.

The text itself could be in error, as this change took place a month ago, and we all know how slow Valve can be when it comes to fixing certain things.

[Shuaizu]

Confirmations are not in this situation, though. I'm talking about holds. Anyway, I'd rather have a moderator explain this to me instead. I wont read user comments. ty.

[Tev]

And please read what I literally just said.

And try what I suggested instead of talking over us.

Originally posted by Mochi ✿:

I wont read user comments. ty.

Makes me wonder why post on the user forums then.

A moderator doesn't magically know better than everyone else, and don't expect Valve to come to your thread to explain things for you.

But if you want to act stuck up, so be it.

Before:
Victim downloads and executes the RAT -> Thief has access to victim's PC -> Thief puts up the item as a listing.

• Option a) Thief can access victim's e-mail, confirm the listing. The listing is held for 15 days, because the confirmation is done on a platform the thief can more easily access on the compromised device. Some people are so crazy they leave their credentials or sessions up.
  
  The 15 days is leeway for the victim to notice what has happened and undo the damages.
  
  
• Option b) The thief can't access victim's mobile 2FA as it's on a wholly separate piece of hardware. Thus they can't confirm the listing. Therefore listings are immediate as the risk of compromise is close to null.

Conclusion: When there's no confirmation; there's no difference between the two forms of authentications; there's no need for a separating measure like a hold.

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by Mochi ✿:

Confirmations are not in this situation, though. I'm talking about holds. Anyway, I'd rather have a moderator explain this to me instead. I wont read user comments. ty.

Then don't post in a user forum. Moderators hold no special powers for trading and market restrcitions so it doesn't make a difference who gives the correct advice. Don't act so up yourself aganst users with tens of thousands of posts in these forums who are more than experienced to provide simple advice in basic English.