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Return a game if Denuvo is added after purchase
I consider buying a game from a publisher who usually uses anti consumer DRM, but doesn't currently for the game in question.

If i buy it now, and the publisher effectively scams me out of my product by adding anti consumer DRM later, can i still refund even if the 14 days or 2 hours of playtime have passed?
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Si-Fi Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:25pm 
Any game that is played outside of the window, there is no possibility of any refund unless you have a valid arguement to present to Steam Support.

Publishers have a reason by implementing DRM technology to protect their IPs from piracy, which can be a little over the cliff but regardless they do not harm you.
Last edited by Si-Fi; Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:28pm
Satoru Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:26pm 
No

If you are outside the refund window your “irrational personal preference” does not factor into an exemption
999999999 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:28pm 
Nope.
Phantom Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:28pm 
Of course not.

The addition of DRM doesn't warrant you a refund.

It's absurd to think that it does.

:yinyangflip:
KaiausderKiste Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:39pm 
Well, by trade law in my country i have a valid reason. If one side changes the terms of a contract you automatically get the right to cancel it no matter what. As you did never agree to the new terms.

Not liking intentional one sided contract changes to my disadvantage is hardly an irrational personal preference, it's borderline fraudulent. And trade law over here agrees with that point generally. I'd really like to buy said game. :/ maybe i'll talk this through with a lawyer.
999999999 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by KaiausderKiste:
Well, by trade law in my country i have a valid reason. If one side changes the terms of a contract you automatically get the right to cancel it no matter what. As you did never agree to the new terms.

Not liking intentional one sided contract changes to my disadvantage is hardly an irrational personal preference, it's borderline fraudulent. And trade law over here agrees with that point generally. I'd really like to buy said game. :/ maybe i'll talk this through with a lawyer.

Read the whole SSA again.
Satoru Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:42pm 
That’s not how that works but hey feel free to delude yourself

But “personal irrational nonsense“ is not a valid reason.

You not liking a contract does not mean it’s asymmetrical or illegal or one sided.

Don’t like it? Too bad.

Just go to GOG and be done with it
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Si-Fi Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by KaiausderKiste:
Well, by trade law in my country i have a valid reason. If one side changes the terms of a contract you automatically get the right to cancel it no matter what. As you did never agree to the new terms.

Not liking intentional one sided contract changes to my disadvantage is hardly an irrational personal preference, it's borderline fraudulent. And trade law over here agrees with that point generally. I'd really like to buy said game. :/ maybe i'll talk this through with a lawyer.
A lawyer won't solve problems. Like if you spent $15 dollars, how much would you sue them for?

It's in effect for a reason, so it won't be abused but its not like abusement of Steam's TOS doesn't happen because it does which is a hard fact.
KaiausderKiste Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:53pm 
i am talking about changes after the fact. I specifically want to buy a game that currently does NOT have Denuvo.
999999999 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by KaiausderKiste:
i am talking about changes after the fact. I specifically want to buy a game that currently does NOT have Denuvo.

Nope.
Si-Fi Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by KaiausderKiste:
i am talking about changes after the fact. I specifically want to buy a game that currently does NOT have Denuvo.
Wouldn't it be a suggestion to raise those concerns with the publisher or contest in a manner of speaking?

I would say no as well.
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