KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 16분
system crashes randomly when gaming
for a while now my system has been crashing in the middle of gaming. Its crashed on me on games like csgo, pubg, h1z1, BF1 etc. but every game runs at 80+ fps (except for pubg) Just about the only 2 games that i can think of that doesnt crash it are terraria and shellshock live. Ive ran msi afterburner only to watch my gpu temps and they never go above 60 degrees celsius so it makes me thing it might mean i dont have a cpu that powerful enough to run these games? i have a pentium g4560 cpu and if it isnt strong enough to run these games what cpu would you recommend? ive been thinking about an i5 but not sure which one.

thanks a whole bunch in advanced to anyone who reads this and helps out!
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Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 33분 
When the system crashes, what happens? What do you see, what messages do you get?

And have you checked CPU temp? At a glance it sounds like a CPU overheat to me. Pentiums don't run hot, but Intel's stock CPU cooler can be difficult to mount properly. If there's an improper seal between the contact plates it'll overheat the CPU, which will then shut down automatically to prevent damage.
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KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 39분 
Wolfie님이 먼저 게시:
When the system crashes, what happens? What do you see, what messages do you get?

And have you checked CPU temp? At a glance it sounds like a CPU overheat to me. Maybe the cooler isn't mounted properly - Pentiums don't run hot but the Intel stock cooler is difficult to install properly.
The screen usually just turns into one solid color depending on the terrain of the game (if im playing in a desert screen turns brown when crash). It doesnt restart the pc i end up having to force restart or shutdown. No messages show up on screen. Sometimes i get some weird bugged out audio that cuts off after several seconds.

Havent checked my cpu temps yet but will get back to you on that. Just before posting this i went into my tower and made sure the stock cooler was mounted properly and it was and still is.

Could the cooler itself just not be good enough under heavy loads? I usually play on low settings on graphically intense games like Bf1 incase that makes a difference.
Malygos 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 39분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
for a while now my system has been crashing in the middle of gaming. Its crashed on me on games like csgo, pubg, h1z1, BF1 etc. but every game runs at 80+ fps (except for pubg) Just about the only 2 games that i can think of that doesnt crash it are terraria and shellshock live. Ive ran msi afterburner only to watch my gpu temps and they never go above 60 degrees celsius so it makes me thing it might mean i dont have a cpu that powerful enough to run these games? i have a pentium g4560 cpu and if it isnt strong enough to run these games what cpu would you recommend? ive been thinking about an i5 but not sure which one.

thanks a whole bunch in advanced to anyone who reads this and helps out!
You can monitor your cpu with afterburner as well check and see if its 100% usage and what temps you are getting

Edit is your gpu overclocked??
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Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 43분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
The screen usually just turns into one solid color depending on the terrain of the game (if im playing in a desert screen turns brown when crash). It doesnt restart the pc i end up having to force restart or shutdown. No messages show up on screen. Sometimes i get some weird bugged out audio that cuts off after several seconds.

Alright, that's good. We can eliminate one potential problem - the CPU cooler is working just fine.

A CPU overheat crash is instant. The system shuts itself down ASAP to prevent damage, usually the screen just goes black and everything stops. You'd also have howling fans by that point. What you're describing actually sounds more like a software gremlin or possibly a driver. Which is good, means you don't have to replace fried hardware.
KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 44분 
jefedemuchanina님이 먼저 게시:
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
for a while now my system has been crashing in the middle of gaming. Its crashed on me on games like csgo, pubg, h1z1, BF1 etc. but every game runs at 80+ fps (except for pubg) Just about the only 2 games that i can think of that doesnt crash it are terraria and shellshock live. Ive ran msi afterburner only to watch my gpu temps and they never go above 60 degrees celsius so it makes me thing it might mean i dont have a cpu that powerful enough to run these games? i have a pentium g4560 cpu and if it isnt strong enough to run these games what cpu would you recommend? ive been thinking about an i5 but not sure which one.

thanks a whole bunch in advanced to anyone who reads this and helps out!
You can monitor your cpu with afterburner as well check and see if its 100% usage and what temps you are getting

Edit is your gpu overclocked??
ive noticed that my cpu usage goes to near 100% before a crash but ive never check the temp (doing that now though)

no overclocking here btw
Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 45분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
ive noticed that my cpu usage goes to near 100% before a crash but ive never check the temp (doing that now though)

no overclocking here btw

That's normal. CPU usage should be high while gaming on a Pentium, I'd be more worried if it wasn't.

Have you tried updating your Graphics Driver at all?
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KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 45분 
Wolfie님이 먼저 게시:
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
The screen usually just turns into one solid color depending on the terrain of the game (if im playing in a desert screen turns brown when crash). It doesnt restart the pc i end up having to force restart or shutdown. No messages show up on screen. Sometimes i get some weird bugged out audio that cuts off after several seconds.

Alright, that's good. We can eliminate one potential problem - the CPU cooler is working just fine.

A CPU overheat crash is instant. The system shuts itself down ASAP to prevent damage, usually the screen just goes black and everything stops. You'd also have howling fans by that point. What you're describing actually sounds more like a software gremlin or possibly a driver. Which is good, means you don't have to replace fried hardware.
instant as in its as soon as a play the game or as soon as the pc starts up? cus thats not it at all. i can play anywhere from 10 min to several hours and itll just crash out of no where.
Malygos 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 46분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
jefedemuchanina님이 먼저 게시:
You can monitor your cpu with afterburner as well check and see if its 100% usage and what temps you are getting

Edit is your gpu overclocked??
ive noticed that my cpu usage goes to near 100% before a crash but ive never check the temp (doing that now though)

no overclocking here btw
Could be a bad driver then the only time i get crashes like what you described are when i have a bad overclock and have the system hangs and have to restart it. Try a driver reinstall and run a check on your ram
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KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 48분 
Wolfie님이 먼저 게시:
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ive noticed that my cpu usage goes to near 100% before a crash but ive never check the temp (doing that now though)

no overclocking here btw

That's normal. CPU usage should be high while gaming on a Pentium, I'd be more worried if it wasn't.

Have you tried updating your Graphics Driver at all?
drivers are up to date
Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 49분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
instant as in its as soon as a play the game or as soon as the pc starts up? cus thats not it at all. i can play anywhere from 10 min to several hours and itll just crash out of no where.

Yeah... that sounds like software to me, not hardware. Hardware is usually very predictable.

It's definitely not an overheating CPU. For the CPU to overheat enough to automatically shut-down, it'll need a serious cooling problem. The instant you start a game the CPU temp will skyrocket and it'll usually crash within a very short space of time. When it crashes it'll usually just shut down instantly. *fingersnap* system off. Sometimes you'll get a Blue Screen Of Death as well as a shutdown.
Malygos 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 49분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
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That's normal. CPU usage should be high while gaming on a Pentium, I'd be more worried if it wasn't.

Have you tried updating your Graphics Driver at all?
drivers are up to date
Doesnt mean something didnt corrupt while downloading thats why id suggest a wipe and clean install
Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 52분 
jefedemuchanina님이 먼저 게시:
Doesnt mean something didnt corrupt while downloading thats why id suggest a wipe and clean install

It certainly won't do any harm, and it's another thing to cross off the list. Make sure you delete your existing drivers using DDU. It's a free App that any gamer should have.
Malygos 2018년 2월 3일 오후 7시 56분 
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jefedemuchanina님이 먼저 게시:
Doesnt mean something didnt corrupt while downloading thats why id suggest a wipe and clean install

It certainly won't do any harm, and it's another thing to cross off the list. Make sure you delete your existing drivers using DDU. It's a free App that any gamer should have.
Yeah at this point it sounds like a software issue like you said if it was hardware he'd be getting some kind of error message with bsod
KennyTheCyclone 2018년 2월 3일 오후 8시 00분 
jefedemuchanina님이 먼저 게시:
Wolfie님이 먼저 게시:

It certainly won't do any harm, and it's another thing to cross off the list. Make sure you delete your existing drivers using DDU. It's a free App that any gamer should have.
Yeah at this point it sounds like a software issue like you said if it was hardware he'd be getting some kind of error message with bsod
played some pubg never broke past 60 degrees on gpu or cpu and the usage for the cpu never touched 100% but did jump around from 50%-70%

going to go through my drivers and hope it works but in the unfortunate event in which the problem still persists what else could have gone wrong?
Arya 2018년 2월 3일 오후 8시 02분 
KennyTheCyclone님이 먼저 게시:
going to go through my drivers and hope it works but in the unfortunate event in which the problem still persists what else could have gone wrong?

Sounds to me like something is unstable. Probably your GPU driver, but it could be Windows itself or even your Antivirus.

This is actually a good thing. Software problems are annoying, but they're much preferable to hardware problems. I'm sure you'd rather re-install a bunch of stuff than actually buy new bits.
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