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Even getting a (non-ti) 1050 won't help too much as it's a CPU heavy game.
What parts would I need to acquire for this to happen? With a somewhat reasonable price tag lol
CPU: intel core i5 7400
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OR GeForce GTX 1050 G1.
That’s s will at least get me on my feet and then I can upgrade later on when I have a bit more cash.
I assume you already have that system because you ask?
It would had been better if you asked before you bought something.
The A8 9600 sadly is the same inferior chips AMD have had for years (though upgraded a bit over the time) and not their last years Ryzen chips with decent performance. Back during the previous sockets AMD had one socket for APUs (few processor cores and some graphics cores / integrated graphics) and another for the CPUs only (more processor cores but no integrated graphics.) Now they switched that so they use the same socket for all but they released Ryzen first without integrated graphics and later relaunched their APUs for the new socket but sadly still using the old CPU cores. On mobile they are releasing APUs now using the new Zen CPU cores and the Vega GPU cores so they will have up more competitive APUs now. Sadly yours is weak as CPU and since it's integrated graphics it's also weak for graphics. One could question why they make such a system but they likely wanted the integrated graphics in there and then it's the only choice but it doesn't make a good foundation for a gaming PC.
The Ryzen 3 1200 is the cheapest Ryzen CPU, it too have four cores and run just four threads, that one vs the A8 9600:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-vs-AMD-A8-7600-APU/3931vsm14050
+50% faster single-core speed.
+62% quad-core speed.
+63% multi-core speed.
You also mentioned this:
The i5 7400 vs what you have now:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-A8-7600-APU/3886vsm14050
+58% single-core speed.
+75% quad-core speed.
+76% multi-core speed.
The Ryzen 3 1300X (just higher clocked 1200.):
+64% single-core speed.
+81% quad-core speed.
+81% multi-core speed.
Have you had the PC for long enough to not be able to return it?
As you can see the Ryzen processor which will run on the A320 motherboard at-least will work as fine as the i5 so you can save money by just upgrading the Ryzen processor. The A320 I don't think allow overclocking though so that make it a bit harder to buy the cpuer CPUs (without X) and overclock them to X+ performance.
The performance numbers above include ALL systems including with overclocking so some of those will have been overclocked increasing the performance number.
The Ryzen 5 1400 will add SMT which is what Intel call hyper-threading and hence be more similar to the i7 7700K but with a lower clock-rate.
It's performance numbers relative what you have now:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-vs-AMD-A8-7600-APU/3922vsm14050
+48% single-core.
+55% quad-core.
+140% multi-core.
But once again, remember the results include some overclocked chips.
But yeah, because you are on A320 platform with AM4 socket all isn't doomed since you can use those Ryzen processors too. In April their next line-up should launch bringing with them a bit more performance too.
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I see now it was the A8 9600 and not A8 7600.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2860&cmp[]=2311
So you should add 5% performance or so onto the A8 9600.
Seem to be 10 compute cores in both.
The graphics part of your processor is capable of 503.0-691.2 gflops, the Xbox 360 sit at 250 and the Xbox One at 1.3 so you've got 2+ times the graphical performance of the Xbox 360 in your APU.
The GTX 1050 would sit at 1733-1862 gflops and the 1050Ti at 1981-2138 with the GTX 1060 6 GB being more close to the Xbox One Scorpion at 3855-4372 gflops.
So as you can see the GTX 1050 is more in line with Playstation 4 territory and the 1060 6 GB is closed to the Xbox Scorpion.
Something like the i5 7400 + GTX 1050Ti or i3 8100 + GTX 1050Ti may have been a good start originally. As long as you can add the GTX 1050Ti and switch the processor to say Ryzen 5 2400 once that relases that wouldn't be a disaster.
Witcher 3: Wild hunt GOTY want a 2500K or X4 940.
As you can see the i5 2500K is a bit faster than what you have: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2860&cmp[]=2311&cmp[]=804
Pretty much on par with the Ryzen 3 1200:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2860&cmp[]=804&cmp[]=3029
The X4 940 though is a slower processor:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2860&cmp[]=3029&cmp[]=367
Your A8 9600 is more modern and both are AMD quad-core processors so you beat that one. So you beat the lowest CPU requirements for the Witcher 3 which they have listed for AMD but for Intel even if you'd upgrade to the Ryzen 3 1200 you'd just be on par with it. It's pretty weird how they list a weaker AMD processor at the same level as a better performing Intel one but that's what they have done.
For graphics they say the HD 7870, that's a 2560 gflops card so 4-5 times faster than what you have as integrated graphics so it seem like the graphics is a bigger problem than the CPU.
Anyway if you were to upgrade to Ryzen 3 1200 + GTX 1050Ti then it would likely run somewhat ok. As is I guess it would run bad. And a better upgrade would likely be the Ryzen 5 1400 + GTX 1060 6 GB.
The PC you've got is a decent PC for those who want a functional desktop PC with good enough graphics to drive their monitor and watch YouTube and Netflix and such and not spend a lot of money. It's sadly not all that great for games. It would had been best if you had asked before :)
(Also the AMD gflops doesn't perform as good in games as the Nvidia gflops do. I assume because Nvidia can make better drivers. AMD do fine with virtual currency mining and in DX 12 where more of the code to drive the game is pushed onto the developer of the game rather than the driver. The consoles also use AMD hardware but games are usually a bit more optimized on consoles instead and they have used APIs more similar to DX 12 for longer giving developers more control and better performance so it's likely a bit more ok to compare them against the Nvidia cards with similar theoretical performance.)
But apparently if I upgrade my CPU and GPU to these..
CPU: Ryzen 1300x
GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 G1
I should be able to play it on medium. I can worry about upgrading later when I have a bit more cash hahaha
I can stretch my funds $70 more to get the GTX 1050 Ti G1 from pc case gear, but I’m not going to buy it if I won’t be able to at least play TW3 on at least medium.
7th Gen A8-9600 APU
# of CPU Cores: 4 Base Clock: 3.1GHz Max Boost Clock: 3.4GHz Default TDP / TDP: 65W Graphics Model: Radeon™ R7 Series
7th Gen AMD Athlon™ X4 940
# of CPU Cores: 4 Base Clock: 3.2GHz Max Boost Clock: 3.6GHz
Newegg:
A8 9600: $70: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113453
Can't see what the X4 940 cost because it's not in stock: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
Ryzen 3 1200 $100: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113446
Assuming you bought just a graphics card which seem to be the biggest disadvantage now considering you have a bit better performance than the Phenom II X4 940 as is the only money "wasted" would had been the money between the APU A8 9600 vs the CPU Athlon X4 940. The later doesn't come with integrated graphics and the former do and if you don't use the integrated graphics then it's of course unnecessary to pay for it. I guess the price difference may be $30 or something.
If you bought a Ryzen later then the original $70 for the APU would had been "wasted" but I guess it is like it is with that. It's not a massive amount of money.
Though if you had put together a Ryzen 3 or 5 system with GTX 1050Ti/1060 from the beginning you'd likely had gotten a B350 motherboard too.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2763-amd-chipset-comparison-x370-b350-a320
A320 vs B350 vs X370 (I'll use the old names for USB versions because the new ones are retarded and take up more space.)
USB 2.0: 6 - 6 - 6
USB 3.0: 2 - 2 - 6
USB 3.1: 1 - 2 - 2
SATA: 2 - 2 - 4
SATA Express: 2 - 2 - 2
PCI-e 2.0: 4 - 6 - 8
Multi-GPU: No.
Overclocking: No.
So relative B350 you have the same amount of USB 2.0, 3.0, SATA and SATA express ports. You have one less USB 3.1 (now-adays called 3.1 gen 2 and 3.0 is called 3.1 gen 1), 2 fewer PCI-express connections but that's only relevant if you want to expand the machine with M.2 SSD drives and something more like gbit LAN, audio-card, .. and you can't use multiple graphics cards (would unlikely happen anyway) and can't overclock (kinda bad but ..)
I don't know if you have 2 or 4 memory slots.
3 core Phenom II with GTX 1050Ti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xEx21TO3I
4 core Phenom II with GTX 1050Ti (720p medium ok):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiX534P15Yc
There actually was videos with the CPU you have and a GTX 1050Ti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzdTxYg1Sag
Guess he could drop the graphics settings a bit too, no reason to play on close to ultra.
High settings (why have this lower FPS?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5o9R50ndbo
Your processor and GTX 1060:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKQHUcc0uM
PUBG on your processor with a GTX 1060:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKihifyZBYM
But if you consider the Xbox One have a hard time doing 30 FPS too ...
So start with the graphics card.
But if you also upgraded the CPU:
https://youtu.be/6_spuDIs9Fo?t=3m58s
With GTX 1060 aswell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ynBzZBJe0
So start with the graphics card and then you can play it and later you can get a Ryzen processor. Hopefully. Assuming the case have room for it and such. The GTX 1060 need a PCI-express power cable the GTX 1050Ti don't. I don't know what power supply you have.