BabyShrub Aug 8, 2019 @ 8:52am
Games getting bad fps but don't know why
This is mainly about the game rust

Hello I recently purchased a PC off a friend and it has a Xeon x5650 , 12gb 1333hz ram , and a gtx 1060 6gb , I wanted to know why my game keeps randomly frame dropping even though all my settings are on the lowest , I can get up to 130fps on some servers but then even on vanilla servers I can drop to 30 fps but don't know why, 2 other friends have the same build and no problems at all , my CPU temps in game are 40-45 max and my gpu is around 50-60 max , normally my CPU usage is at 60% I never see it go above that and my gpu is around 57%, my ram is always at 87 - 90 % in game as the game uses 10gb ram , does anyone have any ideas ? Thank you and kind regards .
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The Rock God Aug 8, 2019 @ 9:44am 
Probably because the x5650 is ancient and below the minimum requirements.
BabyShrub Aug 8, 2019 @ 9:48am 
That's nothing to do with it bud, I'm playing even more demanding games than rust and getting above 60fps max graphics.

Also like I said before the CPU is only at 60% usage while playing rust so how can it be the CPU ? Correct me if I'm wrong but if my CPU was unable to handle these games it would constantly be at 100% usage with stuttering in game .
Originally posted by The Rock God:
Probably because the x5650 is ancient and below the minimum requirements.
Snow Aug 8, 2019 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by 200dpi:
That's nothing to do with it bud, I'm playing even more demanding games than rust and getting above 60fps max graphics.

Also like I said before the CPU is only at 60% usage while playing rust so how can it be the CPU ? Correct me if I'm wrong but if my CPU was unable to handle these games it would constantly be at 100% usage with stuttering in game .
Originally posted by The Rock God:
Probably because the x5650 is ancient and below the minimum requirements.
Actually, unless you're at 100% GPU usage, you're CPU bottlenecked. CPUs don't work like GPUs, most games still can't utilize 6 cores, let alone 12 threads, and X5650 has less per-core performance than last year's Celeron G4900.
r.linder Aug 8, 2019 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Snow:
Originally posted by 200dpi:
That's nothing to do with it bud, I'm playing even more demanding games than rust and getting above 60fps max graphics.

Also like I said before the CPU is only at 60% usage while playing rust so how can it be the CPU ? Correct me if I'm wrong but if my CPU was unable to handle these games it would constantly be at 100% usage with stuttering in game .
Actually, unless you're at 100% GPU usage, you're CPU bottlenecked. CPUs don't work like GPUs, most games still can't utilize 6 cores, let alone 12 threads, and X5650 has less per-core performance than last year's Celeron G4900.

Rust is also a bit more demanding on the CPU, from my experience.
Snow Aug 8, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Escorve:
Originally posted by Snow:
Actually, unless you're at 100% GPU usage, you're CPU bottlenecked. CPUs don't work like GPUs, most games still can't utilize 6 cores, let alone 12 threads, and X5650 has less per-core performance than last year's Celeron G4900.

Rust is also a bit more demanding on the CPU, from my experience.
On per-core performance, might I add.
Check this out. The game stays below 50% CPU usage with 6c/6t CPU. No wonder it runs like crap on X5650.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR4zWFSPy_g
hawkeye Aug 8, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
The 60% cpu usage is the average of all cores (any unused count as zero)
Snow Aug 8, 2019 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by hawkeye:
The 60% cpu usage is the average of all cores (any unused count as zero)
Well, typically Windows thread scheduler tries to split the workload on all cores/threads even if there's no actual benefit for the game, so it's likely to show around 60% on each thread instead of 100% on some and 0% on others, but technically it still equals to that.
Cathulhu Aug 8, 2019 @ 1:43pm 
I doubt that Rust can even utilize 6 cores. Also, Rust is known for its shoddy performance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/993apd/will_rust_support_multi_threading_with/
BabyShrub Aug 8, 2019 @ 3:01pm 
It's all good I finely fixed it, it was something to do with a Nvidia controll panel setting and a something called turbo boost that was disabled in my bios , I also changed the game priority in task manager and set the correct launch options . Works perfectly fine now , frames don't go below 70 apart from when I open my inventory they go to 63
Viking2121 Aug 8, 2019 @ 4:36pm 
I'd get a little overclock on that if ya can, it's still a decent CPU but it is lacking a bit these days at it's default clock.

Now ram being at 90% kinda worries me a bit and can cause a bit of frame drops or so if the system decided it's a good idea to do something else in the background.

Windows 10 the memory usage in task manager won't even get 100% before it starts using pagefile.
BabyShrub Aug 9, 2019 @ 1:18am 
Ok thanks bud , was planning on getting another 2x4 gb sticks of ram, I did fix the problem but that could improve it a little more so thank you 👍🏻
Originally posted by ZyG|Viking2121:
I'd get a little overclock on that if ya can, it's still a decent CPU but it is lacking a bit these days at it's default clock.

Now ram being at 90% kinda worries me a bit and can cause a bit of frame drops or so if the system decided it's a good idea to do something else in the background.

Windows 10 the memory usage in task manager won't even get 100% before it starts using pagefile.
ThanatosXR Aug 9, 2019 @ 1:21am 
Xeon Is designed for servers
BabyShrub Aug 9, 2019 @ 1:32am 
Yeah but they cost $8 and can play any game out today max graphics with a decent graphics card , but it's better to overclock them as they have incredible over clocking
capabilities.

Amazing for budget gamers as you can instantly cut $250+ off a CPU for a new build.

Originally posted by ThanatosXR:
Xeon Is designed for servers
Last edited by BabyShrub; Aug 9, 2019 @ 1:33am
_I_ Aug 9, 2019 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by ThanatosXR:
Xeon Is designed for servers
not designed for anything
good for heavily threaded tasks with lighter cpu load, and can offer more pci lanes with quad ch ecc ram

are good at serving, office tasks, or multiple vms ect..
Snow Aug 9, 2019 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by _I_:
quad ch ecc ram
Nah, not this one. This one uses triple channel memory.
Originally posted by 200dpi:
Ok thanks bud , was planning on getting another 2x4 gb sticks of ram, I did fix the problem but that could improve it a little more so thank you 👍🏻
If you've got 3x4gb sticks sitting there rn - you'd better get another 3x4gb, else you won't have neither triple channel, nor dual channel.
Last edited by Snow; Aug 9, 2019 @ 5:08am
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