Maik00n 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 9:02
I need help
Ok so i recently bought fallout 3 goty and fallout 4 and neither will work
最後修改者:Maik00n; 2019 年 7 月 9 日 上午 9:06
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Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:20 
I don't understand why would you buy a 1080 ti when ASSASSINS CREED ODYSSEY has those system requirements nothing about a 1080 ti
Recommended specs: CPU: 4.0GHz AMD FX-8350, 3.5GHz Intel Core i7-3770 | RAM: 8GB | Storage: 47GB | GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, AMD Radeon R9 290 | OS: Windows 7, 8.1, 10

Are you playing 4k games because you like so whyyy would you buy an 1080 ti just for gaming? are you an graphic artist that needs that speed of process? Well that explains how you have so much money to spend on an 1080 ti.
最後修改者:Appo; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:23
tacoshy 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:26 
引用自 Appo28
1st: I didn't know that he had a laptop

Like I said a quick google search would have told you. I see you're intrested in PC's and want to give recommendations to others. But then you also need to start acting professionally and google stuff you dont know or not talk about it in the first place. I not saying you shouldnt continue this path but like any real professional you have to do your homework then. And this means reseaching.

引用自 Appo28
can upgrade the RAM that's not a problem

How do you want to know? This CPU is a budget tablet CPU. Mostly used in Notebooks that use tablet hardware. In thatc ase the RAM doesnt have modules but the chips are directly sodlered to the PCB. No way to remove them. Also how do you want to know if his laptop actually has a slot to do a 2 module upgrade? Next, you still missed that he needs SO-DIMM inc ase his memory is not sodlered to the PCB.

引用自 Appo28
2nd: Didn't know that he used a laptop he specified that he used a ASUS brand "Computer"

See his post:
引用自 GamerCat
Processor intel(r) celeron(r) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz
Ram 4gb 3.89gb usable
64 bit operating system x64 based processor
Liek I said, if you dont know what it it is, then you have to do your homework and research - at least if you want to give educated recommendations instead of just guessing into the blue.

引用自 Appo28
3th: I've given him 2 of the rams since i didn't know the system i have the ddr3 one since my motherboard only supports ddr3.

there mroe things to consider then just the Generations:
-Form Factor: DIMM or SO-DIMM (if it is not soldered)
-For DDR3 its a difference between DDR3 (1.5V) and DDR3L (1.35V). You cant just mix them up
-Frequency and Timings: Just because your motherboard uses DDR3 or DDR4 doesnt mean you should buy a random RAM module but you have to look at the frequency and timings. Everything above JEDEC specs (2133MHz for DDR4 and 1066MHz for DDR3) need specific motherboard and CPU support. On top of that, certain CPU's need specific RAM to work optimal like AMD Ryzen or APU's.

引用自 Appo28
4th: It's "cheap" from crosair that can be used better then a 300-400w one

Cheap doesnt mean it is either the cheapest nor the best option. In fact your PSU will cost him in the long term more. PSU are most efficient with power conversating rate with a load of 50%. If you below or higher then 50% load then you pull more power from the wall which will suffer in higher power bills. a PC that only pulls 25W tops will perform awfully inefficient on a 650W PSU.

引用自 Appo28
5th: All GPU's work with all motherboards but the power that they can use is limited nothing to do with motherboards.

Read what I said, Its not true, Mobile Hardware dont work thatw ay, GPU'S are soldered to the Mainboard. you dont have a PCI slot there, just a socket for the GPU chip and sockets for the VRAM modules. Also the CPU has a NUK use where you also dont have PCI slots on the motherboard as you simple cant fit it into the case in the first place. There mroe then the normal ITX, mATX, ATX and EATX motherboards you know.

引用自 Appo28
7th: What are you talking about... To make a GPU from MSI work you will need a PSU that can connect to it or is mine not the same??? You say that my MSI GTX 1050 TI 4GB is not connected to the PSU and i needed to change the PSU since i didn't know that the MSI one needed to be externaly connected to the PSU and sicne the GPU i mentioned is MSI i think has the same thing... I don't think that his PSU (now since i know he has a Laptop i can forget about all i've given him) this budget is very balanced and for the right money i can guarrante that he can play all games on the market right now... .

it doesnt matter of the brand but the modell. As matter of fact all GTX 1050 Ti, draw their power trhough the motherboards PCI slots. But again not all motherboards espacially not the motherboards for that CPU have it.GTX 1050 Ti is also not a GPU it is a graphic card, the GPU is GP107-400-A1. And motherboards for mobile CPU's have sockets for mobile GPUS where the chip gets sodlered to it. a Graphics card is a PCB with GPU, VRAM, Mosfet. Laptop have soldered it to the main PCB (soemthing like the motherboard).

引用自 Appo28
I can prove it since the GPU i mentioned is probably a little bit powerful then mine he can play all games he want.. The only problem is that the RAMS are only 8GB thats all, since DDR3/1150 motherboards don't support over 16gb of RAM. He can get 16 directly but i don't see the point for fallout 4(FROM MY PC)

Again, do your homework. To play games he need more then a GPU. His CPU is not up to the task and in no way it would push enough data to the GPU that the GPU would work correctly if he even could use a graphic card in the first place. Thats where you need professionals again that know about bottlenecks and system efficency.

And of course can LGA1150 Motherboard use over 16GB RAM. Not that it matters as he is not LGA-1150... he is on FCBGA-1170. Those chipset support up to 4x8GB same as LGA-1150.

引用自 Appo28
6th: Sorry mr. money i've sayd that i will give him a cheap upgrade.

cheap doesnt mean better. Besides you didnt choosed the cheapesat part either. Its about what works well. Would you buy a car that can drive a mximum of 10MPH for 800$ when you you can get a car that drives 100MPH for 900$? That would be money saved at the wrong spot.

引用自 Appo28
Ok so why should he buy a laptop?? It's no use, it's more expansive then my PC and the only thing is that it's portable...

One last advice - its not a supporters job to judge what is better for his sue but to see what is the customers need and use. No need to tellt hat desktops is cheaper and perform better. The customer know it but he might need or simply just want the portability.

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And still I dont think you should stop being intrested in such stuff - but you need to learn to research and how all that stuff work to give educated reommendations instead of giving buying advices when you have no diea what the stuff does or how it will preform together. Or would you want to buy a car because a 6yo recommendet it to you while he looked at what is cheap and looks cool.

引用自 Appo28
I don't understand why would you buy a 1080 ti when ASSASSINS CREED ODYSSEY has those system requirements nothing about a 1080 ti
Recommended specs: CPU: 4.0GHz AMD FX-8350, 3.5GHz Intel Core i7-3770 | RAM: 8GB | Storage: 47GB | GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, AMD Radeon R9 290 | OS: Windows 7, 8.1, 10

Are you playing 4k games because you like so whyyy would you buy an 1080 ti just for gaming? are you an graphic artist that needs that speed of process? Well that explains how you have so much money to spend on an 1080 ti.

Well I play at 4K and I do stuff that is mroe demanding then gaming (CAD and rendering).

引用自 Appo28
You have said that i don't know what i am doing and i am not a professional... Dude you say since you have a 1080 ti (I've seen on your profile) you are a professional? There is no professionals in this there are only data you can find on internet and budget, still you can't say stuff you don't know i use and still going to use the same system i've given him in the recomandation the only difference is that is a 16GB of ram and not a 8GB and i have a MSI 1050 TI and not a 1060+...

No I'm a professional ebcause I build and repair PC's on a daily basis. I actually do a sidejob for a PC-Store where I build all the custom high end systems or personalized systems during my free time during my HEMS shifts (the time when I dont have to fly).
I can say it because you ignore the main problem - not upgradeable hardware as you surely dont know how to unsodler chips and resolder new chips onto the motherboard and how to write a custom BIOS for it to support it. Also you ignore the huge CPU bottleneck. Upgrading your reommendation wont help a tiny bit if your CPU is already the problem and highly limiting. Its still a CPU for TABLETS (not even real laptops).
最後修改者:tacoshy; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:32
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:29 
Omg i can give you pictures if you wan't my MSI GTX 1050 TI dose not draw power from motherboard i can prove that to you right now if you want i could't use my graphics card until i bought a new PSU that could support it.
最後修改者:Appo; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:29
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:31 
My motherboard can't support over 16GB of ram i will just give you the info

Memorii Suportate
Tip memorie - DDR3
Memorie maxima - 16 GB
Numar sloturi - 2
Tehnologie - Dual channel
Frecvente suportate - 1600/1333/1066 MHz
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:33 
And in fact all 1150 motherboards i've checked don't support over 16gb of ram
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:34 
ASRock H81M-ITX

Biostar H81MHV3

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tacoshy 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:35 
引用自 Appo28
My motherboard can't support over 16GB of ram i will just give you the info

Memorii Suportate
Tip memorie - DDR3
Memorie maxima - 16 GB
Numar sloturi - 2
Tehnologie - Dual channel
Frecvente suportate - 1600/1333/1066 MHz

there is your PROLEM: YOURS!!!

just ebcause yours dont support it because it only has 2 DIMM slots doesnt mean that neither the CPU nor other motherbaords support it. And frankly every LGA-1150 Motherboard with 4 DIMM slots can use 4x8GB RAM. Not that it matters, he is not on LGA-1150 but FCBGA-1170.

try to find a motherboard with that socket and PCI slot for GPU's: Good luck
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:36 
Here we are not talking about CAD and rendering dude it's Gaming only related the guy wanted to play Fallout 4 not to render an entire galaxy in seconds he wanted to play only a game.
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:38 
I am done it's pointless i've given you the info i've got but no you still go with the same thing... So you say if i buy 64 GB of RAM right now on my crap motherboard that is a 1150/DDR3 and says exactly 16 GB of RAM MAX it will have no problem?

Nothing stopped me from buying 64 GB only that spec i found when i tryed to find it on the internet to be clear mine is a H81MK old one i am not talking about his motherboard at this poin t i've got it he got a laptop i don't care since in my opinion laptops are not for gaming, only the ones only trump can get or you are sponsored by.
最後修改者:Appo; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:40
tacoshy 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:40 
引用自 Appo28
Here we are not talking about CAD and rendering dude it's Gaming only related the guy wanted to play Fallout 4 not to render an entire galaxy in seconds he wanted to play only a game.

you where the one that brought my GPU up and GTX 1080 Ti is opften not enough for 4K...

引用自 Appo28
ASRock H81M-ITX

Biostar H81MHV3

more

Then start to google correctly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150
There you have a list with all chipsets for LGA-1150. And if you tell me youc ant find any motherbaord with 32GB support then you must be blind. Nearly every Z87 and B85 motherboard has it.
最後修改者:tacoshy; 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:40
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:41 
Ok i will give you the biggest site in my country and show you that they don't support over 16GB
tacoshy 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:41 
引用自 Appo28
I am done it's pointless i've given you the info i've got but no you still go with the same thing... So you say if i buy 64 GB of RAM right now on my crap motherboard that is a 1150/DDR3 and says exactly 16 GB of RAM MAX it will have no problem?

learn to read. your motherboard does not support more then 16GB RAM. nearly every other LGA-1150 Motherboard supports 32GB.
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:42 
nahh dude i am done i don't have the nerves to go this path is pointless you now make me blind and... From an recomandation we have gone this far..
Appo 2019 年 7 月 10 日 上午 5:44 
even mine is the same only 16gb of ram then from what you've said lets put 128 RAMS inside of it nahh i will record it buy 128 worth of 2 rams 64x2 and then see what will happen nahh i am curious now
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