Let's See if I Got That Right...

[D.A.R.K.]

This Grand Prix event allows players who have a lot of money to win the race and 300 of them get what they want in their Wishlist while poor Steam Account don't win the race and only 100 of them get what they want IF they reach at least 3rd in the Podium, therefore Steam is giving free games for those who can buy games and giving nothing for those who can't buy games, is that right?

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от Asmis:

Yes your team needs to finish at least 3rd position to be eligible for getting free game, but everyone in the winning team has the same chance to win a free game.

Someone who spends 1 USD and someone who spends 1000 USD (both of them in the winning team) has the same chance to win a free game.

But the winning team gets 300 players, the second team 200 and the third team 100, meaning spending money (not you, your team, we aren't talking about people, we are talking about teams, team with more money and team with less money) would give you more players to win the gift... And, without knowing the number of players in each team, we don't know the real chance to win the gift for each player.

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not sure why you still struggle to understand, but i give up explaining at this point.- sorry.

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от MancSoulja:

This thread in a sentence.

"Giv me free gaem"

No, it's not. If you check out my wishlist you will see my "top game" it isn't a game. Please, stop being that kind of people, nobody likes that kind of people, don't be one of them.

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от M:

not sure why you still struggle to understand, but i give up explaining at this point.- sorry.

Ok, but in my point of view, a team with more money has more chance to win, therefore 300 players will win the gift, while teams with less money who will struggle to get second and third so 200 and 100 players win a gift. To me is a snowball and we can see that by the results.

Makes no sense to stay in a team with less money which didn't reach the podium at the end of the day.

[🍭󠁳󠁳⁧⁧Lalahti]

Someone skipped all their maths classes, this is pointless

[AmsterdamHeavy]

No, youre wrong. Among the reasons why is the fact that your chance to win a game is so small, as to be irrelevant.

There is very little difference between 0.000005% chance and 0.00001%

[Satoru]

The number of points you spend in the race has zero bearing on whether you win games

Youc an spend 100 free points or buy lots of games and spend 10,000 points

Your odds of winning are identical

https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules

May I recommend you read the rules first

Note that NO WHERE in the rules does it say your odds of winning increas/decrease if you have more or less points. Users are chosen AT RANDOM from each team. a user can spend $10,000 on the store, and won't win a prize, but someone might click a single time during the 24h period on their achievements and win. This is a pretty dumb way for 'rich' teams to win prizes when doing so doesn't even guarantee them a 'win'

Because 'rich' teams or whatever you're blathering about, in fact by definiton have more usres, you in fact have LESS chance of winning the prize, because the prize pool is split amongst more users, vastly decreasing your odds even though there are more overall prizes.

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от :):

Someone skipped all their maths classes, this is pointless

Oh, is that so? Since you didn't skip your math classes, could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team?

[Satoru]

Първоначално публикувано от D.A.R.K.:

Първоначално публикувано от :):

Someone skipped all their maths classes, this is pointless

Oh, is that so? Since you didn't skip your math classes, could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team?

https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules

Its fairly obvious from the rules if you had actually bothred to read them

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от Satoru:

The number of points you spend in the race has zero bearing on whether you win games

Youc an spend 100 free points or buy lots of games and spend 10,000 points

Your odds of winning are identical

https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules

May I recommend you read the rules first

Note that NO WHERE in the rules does it say your odds of winning increas/decrease if you have more or less points. Users are chosen AT RANDOM from each team. a user can spend $10,000 on the store, and won't win a prize, but someone might click a single time during the 24h period on their achievements and win. This is a pretty dumb way for 'rich' teams to win prizes when doing so doesn't even guarantee them a 'win'

I didn't say that, I think you didn't understand what I have said this entire time... What I said is that teams with more money have more chance of winning, NOT PLAYERS!!!!, therefore 300 players to win is higher than 200 players, BUT... BUT!!!! we don't know the number of players in each team, because of that we don't know precisely the chance to get the prize.

The winning team gets more players to win the prize, 300 players, but also has more players in the team, since we don't know the number of players in each team, we can't say PRECISELY the chance of getting the prize. The second team gets less player to win the prize, 200, but also has fewer players in the team, anyways we don't know the number of players in the second team, we can't say is better than the first. Same with the third team, less player to win the prize, also fewer players in the team, same thing, we don't know the chance.

Първоначално публикувано от Satoru:

Because 'rich' teams or whatever you're blathering about, in fact by definiton have more usres, you in fact have LESS chance of winning the prize, because the prize pool is split amongst more users, vastly decreasing your odds even though there are more overall prizes.

Can you say that with 100% precision? We don't know the number of players in each team, we can ASSUME is more because there's more money in the team, but since it's 300 for more players and 100 for fewer players, CAN YOU SAY WITH PRECISION WHICH TEAM IS BETTER OR WORSE?

If you think about, Pig and Cocktail only got in the Podium 3 times, probably both teams have less money, therefore fewer players on it, but doesn't mean each player has more chance to get because we don't know the number of players in the team.

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от Satoru:

Първоначално публикувано от D.A.R.K.:

Oh, is that so? Since you didn't skip your math classes, could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team?

https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules

Its fairly obvious from the rules if you had actually bothred to read them

Again... Could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team? You can ASSUME, it's different.

[Satoru]

Първоначално публикувано от D.A.R.K.:

Първоначално публикувано от Satoru:

https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules

Its fairly obvious from the rules if you had actually bothred to read them

Again... Could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team? You can ASSUME, it's different.

It seems sort of bizarre you say I 'assume' things yet your entire post is based on massive incorrect and blatantly false assumptions

Pot, kettle, black

Feelf ree to read teh rules if you're unclear how they work. But 'spending money' doesn't increase your chances of winning as is clear from the rules. And by your own 'logic'/'assumptinos' were true, it would fundamentally decrease your chances compared to other groups.

[D.A.R.K.]

Първоначално публикувано от Satoru:

Първоначално публикувано от D.A.R.K.:

Again... Could you tell me with precision the perfect chance of each player to get the gift from each team? You can ASSUME, it's different.

It seems sort of bizarre you say I 'assume' things yet your entire post is based on massive incorrect and blatantly false assumptions

Pot, kettle, black

Feelf ree to read teh rules if you're unclear how they work. But 'spending money' doesn't increase your chances of winning as is clear from the rules. And by your own 'logic'/'assumptinos' were true, it would fundamentally decrease your chances compared to other groups.

Another one... I didn't told... Why are you saying I'm saying spending money increases the chance of winning? I don't get it why do you still stuck on that. More money means TEAM WINNING, am I right? Tell me... If a team has more money, this will win more or less?

[D.A.R.K.]

You know what? I'm using a team as Corgi that clearly has more players in it... Let's change the subject, ok? Let's talk about Cockatiel and Ping, shall we? Both teams have the same amount of winnings and stats... Can you tell me which one is better to be? Which one gives you more chance to get the wishlist prize?

[Crazy Tiger]

The argument "more money gives a team more chance of winning" would work if the teams all had the exact same amount of players. But that isn't so. Size of the teams are the major factor, as teams with more players logically could throw in more money. So it't the factthat a team has more players that is important.

Regarding the free prizes, that's where you don't have to spend ANY money. If your team is in a winning spot (so 1-3), everybody within a team has an equal chance of winning a prize, no matter how much money someone has spend.