Using Trainers on non VAC games - possible?

[©HiHoFai™]

Hi,
I really would like to know if I use trainer to play a certain game, but it's solo and just wanted to complete the achievements, would that land me on VAC ban despite the game has NO VAC tag? I mean just a single player despite it has co-op and online co-op. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks..

[©HiHoFai™]

I have checked the game website and the store page, and found nothing about the license or anything. Nothing particular or tag about game bans either.. Hmmm...

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Those are bragging rights achievements. If I may say so myself, I wouldn't feel it's fair if you cheated to obtain them, as people who got it normally worked hard for it. All roguelikes have those.

Yes, you are right. But I don't brag it. Just wanna complete it, no intention to brag either. And I have found out that some players got some of the achievements exactly at the same time and date, which makes me to think it wasn't possible as some of the achievements need a lot of time to get it.

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

I have checked the game website and the store page, and found nothing about the license or anything. Nothing particular or tag about game bans either.. Hmmm...

Those ones used a program to unlock all the achievements at once.
It's not fair, if one thinks about it, as it's uploaded to the servers and it gives quite an erroneous percentage of users with it.

That game most likely has no ban system in place. I still wouldn't cheat it, myself, though.

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Yes, you are right. But I don't brag it. Just wanna complete it, no intention to brag either. And I have found out that some players got some of the achievements exactly at the same time and date, which makes me to think it wasn't possible as some of the achievements need a lot of time to get it.

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

I have checked the game website and the store page, and found nothing about the license or anything. Nothing particular or tag about game bans either.. Hmmm...

Those ones used a program to unlock all the achievements at once.
It's not fair, if one thinks about it, as it's uploaded to the servers and it gives quite an erroneous percentage of users with it.

I have heard about it but never really get into the details about it. So, you know? Just curious... And I realized that even if to use trainer.. it doesn't auto get you the achievements as it needs skills etc to get it. Hmmm...

[Korr]

Why not just get the achievements legitimately?

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by scoob:

Why not just get the achievements legitimately?

Haha.. I've tried time and again for many months... and my keyboard is a little haywire due to that... LOL... anyway.. I'm just wondering, that's all...

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Those ones used a program to unlock all the achievements at once.
It's not fair, if one thinks about it, as it's uploaded to the servers and it gives quite an erroneous percentage of users with it.

I have heard about it but never really get into the details about it. So, you know? Just curious... And I realized that even if to use trainer.. it doesn't auto get you the achievements as it needs skills etc to get it. Hmmm...

I'm curious, though, how will the trainer help you? What are you actually planning to do?

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

I have heard about it but never really get into the details about it. So, you know? Just curious... And I realized that even if to use trainer.. it doesn't auto get you the achievements as it needs skills etc to get it. Hmmm...

I'm curious, though, how will the trainer help you? What are you actually planning to do?

Ah.. good questions... just wondering.. that if I have a trainer.. it can give me (single player) infinite HP & MP and to clear the achievements. That's it.

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

I'm curious, though, how will the trainer help you? What are you actually planning to do?

Ah.. good questions... just wondering.. that if I have a trainer.. it can give me (single player) infinite HP & MP and to clear the achievements. That's it.

But that's pretty cheaty. You are better off learning the enemy patterns and playing it safe. Don't take unnecessary risks and analyze the patterns any boss has. I also suggest asking the community for tips, as they may have some you didn't realize you could do. Leave the trainer as a last resort after that.

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Ah.. good questions... just wondering.. that if I have a trainer.. it can give me (single player) infinite HP & MP and to clear the achievements. That's it.

But that's pretty cheaty. You are better off learning the enemy patterns and playing it safe. Don't take unnecessary risks and analyze the patterns any boss has. I also suggest asking the community for tips, as they may have some you didn't realize you could do. Leave the trainer as a last resort after that.

The game always randomize each time I KO. So it's hard for me to grasp their patterns. And yes, trainer is my last resort... the community is helpful, and that's how I got many of the achievements but the ones I'm unable to get is solely depends on luck itself. It's no fair that way.

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

But that's pretty cheaty. You are better off learning the enemy patterns and playing it safe. Don't take unnecessary risks and analyze the patterns any boss has. I also suggest asking the community for tips, as they may have some you didn't realize you could do. Leave the trainer as a last resort after that.

The game always randomize each time I KO. So it's hard for me to grasp their patterns. And yes, trainer is my last resort... the community is helpful, and that's how I got many of the achievements but the ones I'm unable to get is solely depends on luck itself. It's no fair that way.

Roguelikes, most of the time, has RNG that can be manipulated and/or mitigated by sheer skill. Analyze what is and what isn't randomized, and you could also check the game's wiki for the possible patterns the enemies/bosses can have.

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

The game always randomize each time I KO. So it's hard for me to grasp their patterns. And yes, trainer is my last resort... the community is helpful, and that's how I got many of the achievements but the ones I'm unable to get is solely depends on luck itself. It's no fair that way.

Roguelikes, most of the time, has RNG that can be manipulated and/or mitigated by sheer skill. Analyze what is and what isn't randomized, and you could also check the game's wiki for the possible patterns the enemies/bosses can have.

What's RNG? O_o
PS: Don't worry. I won't take unnecessary risks. I will find a way... XD & seriously, I'm so curios to know those program that can unlock all achievements at once... haha.. cos this is the 2nd time people talked about it...

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Roguelikes, most of the time, has RNG that can be manipulated and/or mitigated by sheer skill. Analyze what is and what isn't randomized, and you could also check the game's wiki for the possible patterns the enemies/bosses can have.

What's RNG? O_o
PS: Don't worry. I won't take unnecessary risks. I will find a way... XD & seriously, I'm so curios to know those program that can unlock all achievements at once... haha.. cos this is the 2nd time people talked about it...

RNG stands for Random Number Generator. I don't abide nor approve and am actually disgusted by people who use that program, so please don't.

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

What's RNG? O_o
PS: Don't worry. I won't take unnecessary risks. I will find a way... XD & seriously, I'm so curios to know those program that can unlock all achievements at once... haha.. cos this is the 2nd time people talked about it...

RNG stands for Random Number Generator. I don't abide nor approve and am actually disgusted by people who use that program, so please don't.

Ohh okay.. haha.. thanks for the info then.. but like you said, trainer is my last resort... & even with trainer (if possible) I still need to go thru painful process to get achievements, only slight less pain.. haha..

[Albcatmastercat]

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

RNG stands for Random Number Generator. I don't abide nor approve and am actually disgusted by people who use that program, so please don't.

Ohh okay.. haha.. thanks for the info then.. but like you said, trainer is my last resort... & even with trainer (if possible) I still need to go thru painful process to get achievements, only slight less pain.. haha..

I bid you good luck, those kinds of achievements ARE a pain to get, but if you do get it without cheating or help, the feeling is all the better.

[©HiHoFai™]

Originally posted by Albcatmastercat:

Originally posted by HiHoFai:

Ohh okay.. haha.. thanks for the info then.. but like you said, trainer is my last resort... & even with trainer (if possible) I still need to go thru painful process to get achievements, only slight less pain.. haha..

I bid you good luck, those kinds of achievements ARE a pain to get, but if you do get it without cheating or help, the feeling is all the better.

I feel you and that's true. But my dark side has submerged, and it's causing me to get distracted despite I tried daily to get the achievements. Thanks for the luck... hohoho.. =)