Setting up a hard drive for gaming.

[Blackstar001]

Can anyone advise me on the best size partition for gaming when I am setting up a new hard drive? How many should I create?

It will not be my OS HD but a separate drive just for games.

Thanks.

[Blackstar001]

Spawn of Totoro の投稿を引用：

Not needed, so one single partition.

My secondary drive is all one giant drive. Partitioning for each game has little to no added effect or benefit, especialy as those file are sent to the RAM and that is far faster then the HDD can even keep up with.

Glimmer の投稿を引用：

Did the post/article give a reason partitioning would prevent files from getting removed?

It won't. If a bad sector removes a file, it doesn't matter as it is still the same drive. If a file is removed due to a corrupt file index, it is still removed.

The article it's self is a joke, tbh.

A simple defrag gets the same results and as Windows defrags the HDD regularly these days, there isn't even a need to actively do that.

Everyone keeps trying to convince me that a separte drive with partitions wil not help and I keep explainging that I tried it and it did work. WTF?

[Omega]

Dude.. you clearly don't know what a partition is or what it is used for. Don't worry about it.

[Blackstar001]

Omega の投稿を引用：

Dude.. you clearly don't know what a partition is or what it is used for. Don't worry about it.

I got all of information from one article. Yup. What do you use them for?

You are an idiot. Thanks for your help.

[Glimmer]

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

Everyone keeps trying to convince me that a separte drive with partitions wil not help and I keep explainging that I tried it and it did work. WTF?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Or as was previously stated in this thread...

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

ignorant nonsense .

What you did may have had a side effect of fixing your issue, but you could have fixed it without the convoluted fix you've stumbled upon.

[Blackstar001]

Glimmer の投稿を引用：

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

Everyone keeps trying to convince me that a separte drive with partitions wil not help and I keep explainging that I tried it and it did work. WTF?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Or as was previously stated in this thread...

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

ignorant nonsense .

What you did may have had a side effect of fixing your issue, but you could have fixed it without the convoluted fix you've stumbled upon.

So then what was the fix genius? Any suggestion?

[Muppet among Puppets]

Keep os on its own partition.
Nothing else matters for gaming.

Be happy with your 5x110gb partitions until you have a 120gb game, or when you learn how defragmentation requires around 15% free space on each partition.

All is fine.

[Blackstar001]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Keep os on its own partition.
Nothing else matters for gaming.

Be happy with your 5x110gb partitions until you have a 120gb game, or when you learn how defragmentation requires around 15% free space on each partition.

All is fine.

Considering most of the games I download are 50GB or less that makes my volumes x2 larger than they need to be.

As for when games are 120GB apiece(WTF?) I have another 2TB storage space. Using the partitioned drive is what I am using for just this one instance . Or if I experience the same problem in the furture. Like I said it is a rare occurence.

All is very well. Thanks.

[Blackstar001]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

Installed spare blank drive; formated , allocated , partioned etc. Reloaded game file onto new separate, partioned drive. It now runs fine. Starts up immediately. FYI I created 4 partitions of about 110 GB apiece on a 500 GB drive.

Something on the way fixed it. The stone feels only warm when you touch it, but the sun warmed it.
You dont need partitions to make games run. You just need them to not have to handle ALL data when handling ONE part. Like reinstall os doesnt affect your other data.

The sun was on the stone all along... I am wondering why it ever got cold in the first place.

Perhaps aI cast a larger shadow than I am aware.

[Satoru]

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

http://www.mweb.co.za/games/view/tabid/4210/Article/6429/Optimise-your-hard-drive-for-gaming-Part-1-Partitioning.aspx

The problem I am having is that the drive I have are not optimal for the size of todays games(being 50+ gb). I am looking to find out what other users are doing.

Note that your subsquent statement more or less indicates you're not really understanding what the above article is actually talking about.

Yes 'in theory' you can have slightly faster speeds if you put all your data on the inner part of the spindle

In PRACTICE this is pointless unless you are a SAN administrator and are running a 90 PetaByte database for a bank and need 0.00001% increases in speed because you're going to lose $500 million in transactions because you were 0.0001 nano seconds slower.

What SAN admins do is take entire banks of drives and RAID them to use ONLY the inner parts of the disk for applications that require that kind of 0.0001% speed increases.

Or that's what they USED to do. Today all we do is throw everything on SSD because the cost of SSD is better and the performance is better and it doesn't require me to buy up 10x more disk because the SAN admins are throwing away the other 90% of the disk. If you're doing nonsense like 'throw data onto the inner part of the disk' the smarter solution is 'buy SSD'.

This level of partitioning is not necessary anymore. Even the old Linux days of partitioning everything to maximise write daemons is moot. The only reason people partition is to ensure things like the root disk not filling up by segregating data, or to use LVMs to expand disks on the fly.

The performance increases are negligible for games if you're trying to do this kind of thing. You're expending TONS of effort, wasting a TON of space and gaining almost nothing in return. This on top of the fact you're losing out flexibility. And on top the above article puts games first and the OS second? No offense but if I need something to be 'faster' then the OS wins out over that argument. I don't need TF2 to load 1 second faster. I need my OS, on this ancient slow spinning disk to not take several minutes to boot up.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Keep os on its own partition.
Nothing else matters for gaming.

Be happy with your 5x110gb partitions until you have a 120gb game, or when you learn how defragmentation requires around 15% free space on each partition.

All is fine.

Considering most of the games I download are 50GB or less that makes my volumes x2 larger than they need to be.

As for when games are 120GB apiece(WTF?) I have another 2TB storage space. Using the partitioned drive is what I am using for just this one instance . Or if I experience the same problem in the furture. Like I said it is a rare occurence.

All is very well. Thanks.

Well, you can only have games that equal up to lets say 100gb. You limited the variance of what games to have installed. Thats the better example then.

Anyway. You dont need to justify your decision. Its just, its not a recommendation to write about home.

[Blackstar001]

Satoru の投稿を引用：

Note that your subsquent statement more or less indicates you're not really understanding what the above article is actually talking about.

Yes 'in theory' you can have slightly faster speeds if you put all your data on the inner part of the spindle

In PRACTICE this is pointless unless you are a SAN administrator and are running a 90 PetaByte database for a bank and need 0.00001% increases in speed because you're going to lose $500 million in transactions because you were 0.0001 nano seconds slower.

What SAN admins do is take entire banks of drives and RAID them to use ONLY the inner parts of the disk for applications that require that kind of 0.0001% speed increases.

Or that's what they USED to do. Today all we do is throw everything on SSD because the cost of SSD is better and the performance is better and it doesn't require me to buy up 10x more disk because the SAN admins are throwing away the other 90% of the disk. If you're doing nonsense like 'throw data onto the inner part of the disk' the smarter solution is 'buy SSD'.

This level of partitioning is not necessary anymore. Even the old Linux days of partitioning everything to maximise write daemons is moot. The only reason people partition is to ensure things like the root disk not filling up by segregating data, or to use LVMs to expand disks on the fly.

The performance increases are negligible for games if you're trying to do this kind of thing. You're expending TONS of effort, wasting a TON of space and gaining almost nothing in return. This on top of the fact you're losing out flexibility. And on top the above article puts games first and the OS second? No offense but if I need something to be 'faster' then the OS wins out over that argument. I don't need TF2 to load 1 second faster. I need my OS, on this ancient slow spinning disk to not take several minutes to boot up.

Wow. Cool.

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Gett a SSD and put your windows on that then use a regular hdd and use it for your steam games. That is what i did. I'm not sure without seeing your pc why your pc would need all them partitions for. What you can try is using a program to get rid of all them partitions and then make it just one partition. Did you use disk management to initialize the disk then use the formatting wizard to format the HDD. Cause you shouldn't need all them partitions if you used disk management to setup your disk.
I have 5 hdds and 1 ssd and used disk management with no problems and have full use of my disks, and only 1 partition. Try usingdisk management to setup your disks and see if you can then download steam games to it.

[Blackstar001]

🎅SnakeFist🎄 の投稿を引用：

Gett a SSD and put your windows on that then use a regular hdd and use it for your steam games. That is what i did. I'm not sure without seeing your pc why your pc would need all them partitions for. What you can try is using a program to get rid of all them partitions and then make it just one partition. Did you use disk management to initialize the disk then use the formatting wizard to format the HDD. Cause you shouldn't need all them partitions if you used disk management to setup your disk.
I have 5 hdds and 1 ssd and used disk management with no problems and have full use of my disks, and only 1 partition. Try usingdisk management to setup your disks and see if you can then download steam games to it.

Ok thanks. I wll try it.

[Washell]

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

There was never any answer given to my question." How many partitions should I use?"

One partition:

Advanced3 の投稿を引用：

Why would you partion it at all?

Kaihekoa の投稿を引用：

You don't need to partition it because it's separate from your OS.

tacoshy の投稿を引用：

YOu wanted to know how others do it? Well they dont do it all. Just because you doesnt like the awnser doesnt mean nobody knows what he is talking about.

Omega の投稿を引用：

Since this drive is going to be used for storage you will only need to create a single partition which covers the entire disk.

One or two:

Washell の投稿を引用：

If you're going to use the entire drive for games, you only need one partition. If you want to sort it into actively played vs long term storage, divide it into two partitions and install the actively played games in the first. That will give you a very minor speed advantage.

Two or more:

Ralf の投稿を引用：

The best would be to make the partition 20% bigger then the games, but if you have a big games with a lot of files then i advise to only put one into the partition foe maximum performance. So if you a lot of big games(50GB+) then it would mean ~26 partitions on a 2TB HDD. I hope this helps.

Yeah... nobody gave an answer...

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

So then what was the fix genius? Any suggestion?

There are two common factors to this problem. You as the user and Steam. If steam was the cause of this, it would be a better known problem and we'd have given you the fix and not bothered with all this partition nonsense. Occam's razor, you're the problem. Judging solely by this thread, you're someone who tweaks his PC and games, googles for information on how to do that, but lacks the basic level knowledge to prevent breaking stuff in the process.

Don't be surprised if this trick doesn't work next time, and don't be surprised if all the unconventional stuff you're doing to fix things, breaks things even more.

[Blackstar001]

Washell の投稿を引用：

Blackstar001 の投稿を引用：

There was never any answer given to my question." How many partitions should I use?"

One partition:




One or two:

Two or more:

Yeah... nobody gave an answer...

There are two common factors to this problem. You as the user and Steam. If steam was the cause of this, it would be a better known problem and we'd have given you the fix and not bothered with all this partition nonsense. Occam's razor, you're the problem. Judging solely by this thread, you're someone who tweaks his PC and games, googles for information on how to do that, but lacks the basic level knowledge to prevent breaking stuff in the process.

Don't be surprised if this trick doesn't work next time, and don't be surprised if all the unconventional stuff you're doing to fix things, breaks things even more.

Tweaks my games? Huh? Wuh?

This link will show you half a dozen examples of the very problem I experienced. (Missing exe.) So perhaps it is a know prolem, just not to you.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=A-dDWo_IIoTm_Qb0nILgBA&q=missing+executable&oq=missing+exe&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39k1j0i20i263i264k1j0l8.2026.4726.0.6651.13.12.0.0.0.0.101.848.9j2.12.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.12.916.6..0i131k1j0i67k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264k1j0i131i67k1.69.SxBlJ6jFPVA

More questions than answers and only answers to questions I never asked.

Theres a reason you've been on my blocked list for the last two years.