4K resolution 3840x2160p Steam Dpi scaling issues

[UltrAramA]

Sorry for posting this if anyone has posted before.

I just installed Acer XB280HK 4K 3840x2160 monitor and to my horror Steam isn't supporting this resolution both in it's normal interface and ingame steam overlay, everything is pixelated no mater what skin i download to use and in game the steam overlay is so small it's unreadable.

I've set up Windows 8.1 update 1 to scale 200%

4k resolution has been around for the last 2 years

I have a Gigabyte GTX 980 G1 Gaming graphics card.

I'm a beta subscriber to steam updates yet you have nothing for this.

There is a huge performance benefit with 2160p compared to do down scaling a 2160p image/game to 1080p.
I played L4D2 in 2160p in this resolution and it's amazing, newer games like Far Cry4 is harder to run in 4K resolution, need new hardware but Steam interface doesn't support this resolution which I find strange since you are gonna release this huge range of steam machines.

Kind Regards Nicholas

[hatchet5891]

I have the same monitor as you and I have no problems running steam, although I don't use skins so maybe this is why.

[UltrAramA]

Did you use any context for the shortcut to steam to scale it to 4K, I tried both original steam interface with Windows 8.1 update 1 and skins scaling 200% in Windows nothing works. Its just a horrible pixelated mess both in the main interface and in the store.

It's mostly the font that isn't scaling correctly.

Found this post about the same problem but no solution. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3227983

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If you changed the Windows DPI, that is why u have issues.
Steam runs just fine in 4K. I've been running everything in 4K (including my main Monitor Desktop and Steam) ever since the GTX 970/980 released and I've had zero issues.

Are you using any Steam Client Skins at all, or not?
If you want a good one that looks well, try "Metro for Steam"

[hatchet5891]

No, I didn't do anything. I literally plugged in the monitor and set the resolution for 3840x2160, then loaded up steam and it worked just fine. I have some problems like you stated with some, but not all games makeing the menus small. But most work fine. The only other problem I have which only occurs on like 3 of my games is that even though I can select 3840x2160 as a resolution, it will automatically default to the 24hz option with not way to change it to 60hz locking my fps at 24. A good example is Geometry wars 3. Other ones you have to watch because they might have two listings for this resolution, 1 for the 24hz and the other for the 60hz.

I wish I had a solution for you, but it really worked as PnP for me, sorry. I will keep an eye out for something as I have been looking for a solution on the 24hz issue myself.

[UltrAramA]

I'm running everything at my monitors native resolution 3840x2160 and I set windows to scale everything 200%, it still looks bad. I'm using the skin PixelVision because it was suggested in the thread i posted a link too in previous post. Gonna try "Metro for Steam"

[hatchet5891]

I don't have windows scale anything either, so maybe this could be causing an issue too?

[UltrAramA]

Bad-Motha님이 먼저 게시:

If you changed the Windows DPI, that is why u have issues.
Steam runs just fine in 4K. I've been running everything in 4K (including my main Monitor Desktop and Steam) ever since the GTX 970/980 released and I've had zero issues.

Are you using any Steam Client Skins at all, or not?
If you want a good one that looks well, try "Metro for Steam"

Well i tried "Metro for Steam" no change.

I know you can use this manifest file to make programs scale to your resolution, this isn't the problem here, steam scales correctly but not the fonts and image, it's like it's using "Nearest Neighbor" method. I'm using the scaling to 200% in Windows but it doesn't help. And the overlay in games is as much smaller as 1080p is compared to 2160p.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You are scaling the DPI, turn that off and u won't have issues.
If you can't see that well, maybe you should get a bigger screen or stick to 1080/1440 p instead.

Or run your Desktop at a lower res, since down to 1080p still does scale very well on a 4K screen. Then within games, run those @ 2160p if they allow for it. Not all games will.

[UltrAramA]

If i turn of the scaling the interface in programs becomes too small and unreadable. Here is at how horrible the font looks in steam on a 4k with 200% scaling as Microsoft and everyone says to use on a 4K display. display https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=a5ffcc44314a9e2a&id=A5FFCC44314A9E2A%212407&action=Share&v=3

This what the font interface in Windows 8.1 looks like with correct scaling for 4K https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=a5ffcc44314a9e2a&id=A5FFCC44314A9E2A%212408&action=Share&v=3

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Then how it looks is just the way it's gonna be.
It's either turn the DPI Scaling back down to 100% or have it look the way it does when it's cranked up. Nothing u can do about "how it scales"

[UltrAramA]

Bad-Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Then how it looks is just the way it's gonna be.
It's either turn the DPI Scaling back down to 100% or have it look the way it does when it's cranked up. Nothing u can do about "how it scales"

This is the most ignorant answer I've heard in a long time. This problem existed back when the standard resolution jumped from 640x480 to 1024x768.

You are basically telling developers to just ignore 4k and 8k resolution, and for us users to live with the fact it will remain unsupported. If it was up to you we would still live in the stone age with no development in technology.

I bet you wouldn't accept low resolution videos on your new high resolution mobile phone when they have 4k resolution videos for computers on internet.

[UltrAramA]

Here is what Chrome and Steam looks like on a 4K monitor at 100% scaling on Windows 8.1, press F11 on your keyboard to go fullscreen and you'll basically get the same proportions as it is for me on my 4K monitor. https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=A5FFCC44314A9E2A&id=A5FFCC44314A9E2A%212409&v=3

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Unless there is a Steam Client Skin that ups the DPI so it looks better at higher resolutions. Windows DPI does not affect Steam Client (another thing people are PO'ed about) so yea it's up to Steam to fix that. Unless a Skin helps to address this, which I've yet to see.

[UltrAramA]

Bad-Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Unless there is a Steam Client Skin that ups the DPI so it looks better at higher resolutions. Windows DPI does not affect Steam Client (another thing people are PO'ed about) so yea it's up to Steam to fix that. Unless a Skin helps to address this, which I've yet to see.

Well you would think that Valve would have added this support in the Steam client. Imagine what it looks like on a 4K TV.

[Worm]

UltrAramA님이 먼저 게시:

Well you would think that Valve would have added this support in the Steam client.

Look at how long it took for the industry to support 64bit. Now imagine how few people are running 4k. My guess is at this point in time it's less than 5% and maybe even less than 1%.