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Ultra Settings Discussion
Many Pc gamers like to run their game ultra because they want to have the best quality, visuals, fps during gameplay. I think one of the key factors why PC gamers like to put their settings to Ultra is to justify their purchase, to know that they can handle it is enough satisfactory for a high end PC gamer.

I have a gtx 1070 and an i7 4790k

I can basicaly max out any game at 1080p, my question to the community is...

1. Can you tell the Difference between turning your settings down from Ultra to High?

2. Do you think Ultra is poorly optimized and developers tend to concentrate on High settings instead and only make minor upgrades to Ultra?

My Answer:
1. I barely ever notice a difference from Ultra to High, the only time I noticed it was playing a pre-alpha game "Squad" it was pretty noticible, never once could I tell I was playing a game at Ultra or High at a triple AAA game, etc. I encounter more problems running games on ultra with fps dips, etc.

2. I think developers only put Ultra settings for those that want to play it maxed out. They optimize high settings and lower instead, because majority of people dont have High End Gaming Rigs to play games at Ultra, its a setting that developers dont really put time into, in my opinion.

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Legutóbb szerkesztette: Wakobi Junior; 2017. szept. 1., 18:59
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The difference between ultra and high depends on the game honestly.

Then again, I haven't tried out enough games to really tell.
Yes you can tell the difference, especially on games like Witcher 3, Ark etc.

You have issues on Ultra as you stated in (1.) as your rig is likely not powerful enough to run them on Ultra satisfactorily.

You are correct in point 2 as it would be a tiny percentage of overall players(relatively) that have a PC powerful enough to play on Ultra.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Samadhi; 2017. szept. 1., 18:55
Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:
Yes you can tell the difference, especially on games like Witcher 3, Ark etc.

You have issues on Ultra as you stated in (1.) as your rig is likely not powerful enough to run them on Ultra satisfactorily.

You are correct in point 2 as it would be a tiny percentage of overall players(relatively) that have a PC powerful enough to play on Ultra.
I forgot to mention I used to have a Rx480, Crysis 3 was a pain to run

MossyRathalos eredeti hozzászólása:
The difference between ultra and high depends on the game honestly.

Then again, I haven't tried out enough games to really tell.
Your right I think my point is it depends on the developer to really invest time into Ultra cause is it worth it?

Because not a lot of people have high rigs so its probably a waste of time in a developers perspective.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: rotNdude; 2017. szept. 2., 8:47
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Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:
Yes you can tell the difference, especially on games like Witcher 3, Ark etc.

You have issues on Ultra as you stated in (1.) as your rig is likely not powerful enough to run them on Ultra satisfactorily.

You are correct in point 2 as it would be a tiny percentage of overall players(relatively) that have a PC powerful enough to play on Ultra.
I forgot to mention I used to have a Rx480, Crysis 3 was a pain to run

Even a 1070 isn't quite enough tbh
Let me clarify that.

For many games it will be, but the games where you would really notice the difference, i doubt the card is powerful enough.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Samadhi; 2017. szept. 1., 18:58
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I forgot to mention I used to have a Rx480, Crysis 3 was a pain to run

Even a 1070 isn't quite enough tbh
Let me clarify that.

For many games it will be, but the games where you would really notice the difference, i doubt the card is powerful enough.
A 1070 is a 1440p sweet spot, I play at 1080p so basicaly Im fine for everything ;)

But eventually it will become irrelevent but I think I'd give it 3-4 years
Ugnak eredeti hozzászólása:
A 1070 is a 1440p sweet spot, I play at 1080p so basicaly Im fine for everything ;)

But eventually it will become irrelevent but I think I'd give it 3-4 years

Don't believe all that 'sweet spot' BS. There isn't a chance of a 1070 running anything demanding on ultra @1440p on a 27" or bigger.

I'd say that 1080p is actually the sweet spot, especially when you get to larger sized monitors.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Samadhi; 2017. szept. 1., 19:10
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A 1070 is a 1440p sweet spot, I play at 1080p so basicaly Im fine for everything ;)

But eventually it will become irrelevent but I think I'd give it 3-4 years

Don't believe all that 'sweet spot' BS. There isn't a chance of a 1070 running anything demanding on ultra @1440p on a 27" or bigger.

I'd say that 1080p is actually the sweet spot, especially when you get to larger sized monitors.
I actually have a 27" 1080p monitor
Ugnak eredeti hozzászólása:
Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:

Don't believe all that 'sweet spot' BS. There isn't a chance of a 1070 running anything demanding on ultra @1440p on a 27" or bigger.

I'd say that 1080p is actually the sweet spot, especially when you get to larger sized monitors.
I actually have a 27" 1080p monitor

Exactly.

If you had a 1440p my bet is you would struggle to fun ultra @60+ FPS with a 1070
Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:
Ugnak eredeti hozzászólása:
I actually have a 27" 1080p monitor

Exactly.

If you had a 1440p my bet is you would struggle to fun ultra @60+ FPS with a 1070
I heard a gtx 1080 cant even do Ghost Recon Wildlands at 60fps 1080p, is it cause its badly optimized or its actually demanding?
Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:
Ugnak eredeti hozzászólása:
I actually have a 27" 1080p monitor

Exactly.

If you had a 1440p my bet is you would struggle to fun ultra @60+ FPS with a 1070
Thats horsecrap, a 580 is a little behind a 1070 and can do 1440p, not all ultra but.....
Hypothetically if someone had a GTX1080ti, would you expect it could run ultra @60+ FPS on a 34" widescreen(3440x1440)?
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Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:

Exactly.

If you had a 1440p my bet is you would struggle to fun ultra @60+ FPS with a 1070
Thats horsecrap, a 580 is a little behind a 1070 and can do 1440p, not all ultra but.....

The discussion is about ultra.
Samaister eredeti hozzászólása:
I'd say that 1080p is actually the sweet spot, especially when you get to larger sized monitors.
Wondering... how is that pixel density any "sweet spot"?

@topic:
Really depends on the game, and what the ultra setting enhances. Plenty of games basically "test" new features, some are barely noticeable, others are quite obvious.


I.e.: do you really care if that one flying leaf is rendered more beautifully, when you barely see or notice it? Probably not. But... it's always nice to have options. Personally i'm more of a manual settings guy, instead of presets. Grants you the graphics you desire, at a framerate you want to have.
1. Depends on the game, as you may or may not notice any changes, depending what they are from high to ultra. For all you know you may get an extra leaf, grass line, or slightly better texture lines which you have to stare at to even notice the difference.

2. Depending how the game was optimize, could tank your fps for no reason due to poor optimization, or to much unnecessary tessellations, or individual effects.

The rest is for you to decide on your own for these type of questions, as each person has their own view of point, and opinions.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 eredeti hozzászólása:
1. Depends on the game, as you may or may not notice any changes, depending what they are from high to ultra. For all you know you may get an extra leaf, grass line, or slightly better texture lines which you have to stare at to even notice the difference.

2. Depending how the game was optimize, could tank your fps for no reason due to poor optimization, or to much unnecessary tessellations, or individual effects.

The rest is for you to decide on your own for these type of questions, as each person has their own view of point, and opinions.
Thank you for the input, Dr.Shadowds
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