Skeleton Mage Jan 25, 2017 @ 12:43am
[Linux os & already owned] steam store filter
Is is possible to filter out games the you do not own from the store ?

Browsing the following (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?) shows all games.

Applying the os filter for linux (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux) filters out anything that may not work on linux without additional effort.

I am curious as to how many of my games would more or less work in a linux os but the filter for linux os has approx 250 pages I was wondering if there was a faster way.
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If you already run Linux and visit the Games tab does it list the games you can't run on Linux then?

You can go here:
http://www.lorenzostanco.com/lab/steam/
Fill in username and then filter on Linux at-least.
Would be good if Valve added such a search to their store and user-library.
Last edited by Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism; Jan 25, 2017 @ 12:47am
ReBoot Jan 25, 2017 @ 12:47am 
I once installed Ubuntu in a VM and started Steam there, that showed me what games would run if I enabled GPU virtualization or installed Linux natively.
Skeleton Mage Jan 25, 2017 @ 1:10am 
No I'm not running linux but as gaming is a major use of my computer I would prefer to research first before jumping in the deep end.

I already know that there are multiple distributions avalible to choose from with some better 'out of the box' at specific tasks.

I already know most of them are free - some have paid support, physical merchandise, etc.

I already know aboutwine (wine is not an emulator) / dual booting and willing to learn more if it would improve functionality.

Hardware functionaly may be a problem but a live cd would allow me to check for problems before installing.

My hardware is more than up to whatever task I want to do but my current os is, while functional, falling behind in security - I tend to be cautious to minimise to risk to my computer.

I don't like the idea of an os that can potentionaly spy on whatever you use your computer for so I will skip the windows 10 install, I won't touch windows vista if I have a choice in the matter & windows 8 point whatever does not offer anything I need - I suspect from that infomation you can guess what I am running.
Well, it seem like in Windows when you choose Games you just see all the games.

However in Linux if you pick Games you've got the choice to see both all your games and only those who work for SteamOS+Linux.

If you want to filter your owned games by any selection then use the link I've already provided.

If you want to see all Linux games which are on Steam you can do that the normal way but if you only want to list those you own visit this site; https://steamdb.info/linux/ ; login there and then uncheck "show unowned games."

Currently there's 2 220 games for Linux in the SteamDB so quite a few. Now for the rest of your questions:
Originally posted by Sir Pent:
I already know that there are multiple distributions avalible to choose from with some better 'out of the box' at specific tasks.

I already know most of them are free - some have paid support, physical merchandise, etc.

I already know aboutwine (wine is not an emulator) / dual booting and willing to learn more if it would improve functionality.

Hardware functionaly may be a problem but a live cd would allow me to check for problems before installing.

My hardware is more than up to whatever task I want to do but my current os is, while functional, falling behind in security - I tend to be cautious to minimise to risk to my computer.

I don't like the idea of an os that can potentionaly spy on whatever you use your computer for so I will skip the windows 10 install, I won't touch windows vista if I have a choice in the matter & windows 8 point whatever does not offer anything I need - I suspect from that infomation you can guess what I am running.
Personally I think you should definitely stick with one of the large ones. Maybe even just one of those among those using either RPM or deb which would bring you down to a limited selection:

* Fedora
+ Large, standard, what many of the open-source projects use.
- I don't like the standard installer. I don't like that they dislike non-free software.

* OpenSUSE
What I prefer. I don't really remember why, which seem like a very weird answer. Among other things the default Fedora package manager only fetches/applies the changes to packages rather than fetching it all by default but that was much slower on my system so it wasn't what I preferd. Also Fedora enable both SSHd and remote root login by default something I wasn't at all expecting coming from a BSD background and in my case since I didn't expected the machine to be open for others I that time just put "ok" I think it was as the root password and that's of course not a good root password for a box someone else can connect too .. IMHO completely stupid default configurations in Fedora there. I'd much rather have both things turned off and then enabled by oneself if one want either of them. Maybe Fedora have other stupid default configurations? I think it run some security patch-set for Linux too? Is it called Secure Linux or something? Grsec? There's a simplicity in lettings things like video acceleration, audio-playback and such just work with no configuration or enabling of them in a restricted environment.

* Debian / SteamOS
Debian is what SteamOS use. I guess one could use SteamOS and allow additional respositories too. I don't know how much work is put into SteamOS longer considering it seem so dead right now? Debian is very stable and reliable and have the same non-free attitude as Fedora do. It's not my preffered desktop distribution because that stability in packages make it run older versions of the software, you can use a more unstable version of it but then you lose said stability so ..

* Ubuntu/Linux Mint
What brought Linux to more people and what is somewhat more newbie-friendly and simplied / easily documented for new users than Debian. Maybe it's just a tiny bit easier to get things like MP3 and video play-back, accelerated video-drivers, Flash and such there? I don't know.

I don't care what you choose really but those are the main-options. Another main alternative is Slackware but it's left out and then Gentoo, ArchLinux and the likes are pretty common too and you'd likely have success with those too if you'd go with them.

15-20 years ago I would had said Debian because Ubuntu wasn't a thing (20 years ago) and deb was better than rpm but I haven't had problem with RPM in "recent" times and then I haven't even run Linux for a few years now.

Free in the software world usually mean open-source rather than gratis. Redhat cost / used to cost money after they split between Fedora and RedHat but even if you wanted to use Redhat you could use CentOS and get basically the same thing. Except it wouldn't be Redhat(TM) I guess. I wouldn't worry about cost since it's not really an issue. I assume you don't have to worry about support either. I know supposedly Intel free graphics driver development happened quickly in Fedora.

There's three ways to upgrade installations in.
1) Make a backup and reinstall from installation disc, preferably you have a separate partition for /home and your games then.
2) Releases at whatever interval, I think one of the distributions used 18 months whereas back when I ran Debian Slink I think it took upwards three years for Potato to come so you could likely see why I considered the software old then .., often you can upgrade at-least from the second-last version to the last there with no reinstallation. It's less work but a disadvantage could be that if they want to make larger changes maybe it require more work or they won't do it because it would break that capability.
3) No fixed releases but just a rolling release with new packages added all the time and continious development, that way you get the latest stuff quickly but you'll get updates more often and maybe something break.
So what you prefer there may affect things. Using say OpenSUSE you can kinda get rolling releases too but I'd suggest going with the standard more stable approach.

If you install Windows first and then dual-boot then you of course have all the options. Wine is a solution if Linux is your only choice and you still need those non-Linux titles but it wouldn't be my preffered solution. Aslong as one don't need ALL games and ALL options there's plenty of games which work in Linux regardless. In my case the scenario is that I buy a lot of game bundles and very many of those games are Windows only so hence I boot Windows only.
If I wanted a Linux environment which would likely be the case have I had a better processor I would make sure to have 16 or more RAM and use virtualization instead so I could just run Linux from Windows but play games in Windows.
As is the case Microsoft is more or less bringing Ubuntu into Windows 10 too so it seem to develop into Microsoft Windows actually becoming a Linux distribution too / a dual-OS environment by itself.

You likely won't have much problem with your hardware, maybe WiFi and maybe if it's very new stuff / with some Creative sound or Killer NICs. For that reason I use cable and would only get motherboards with RealTek and Intel chips just to not run into any problems either with Linux or OS X.

Windows 10 is likely very safe too. But very common. If you get owned chances are it's by something you did like search for some software which was downloaded from random web-page because that's how it works in Windows (or at-least used too) or visiting a page with a Flash bug or or you install some software and Microsoft inform you about some risky behavior that software want to be allowed to do but you don't care about that and just accept that or similar. You could minimize those risks by virtualization too by only using Steam in Windows and then do your browsing habbits in a virtual machine with Linux, maybe two of them one for banking tasks and one for other surfting, if you do more risky stuff maybe yet another machine for that ..

I think you can turn of much of the spying in Windows 10 and also that much of it was added to the older versions so I don't really think that's an argument. Ubuntu too started to do the same thing BTW.
Last edited by Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism; Jan 25, 2017 @ 2:13am
If you say installed Windows 10, installed some package which remove lots of the spying stuff, installed and paid for CyberGhostVPN which allow you to disable ads and tracking or installed add-ons to your browser which try to limit ads and tracking and cookies, maybe disabled javascript and only allowed that you want though I think that's annoying and uninstalled Flash and/or maybe did your surfing from a virtual machine running Tails (https://tails.boum.org/) you likely limit those privacy issues.

As said split your browsing habbits between virtual machines for your social media, e-mail, for banking, for activities you don't feel proud of and for other purposes and you limit the capability to track you within all those. Personally I don't trust the stuff which try to limit your tracking capability because there's so many ways you can be tracking in like installed fonts, screen resolution, browser rendering something and then comparing how that look to some database, which sites you've visited and so on that it may be very hard to cover up all of it / not be trackable. So maybe it's easier to simply assume you ARE tracked and trackable and then do the different tasks in different instances / on different machines so one can't connect one activity with one finger-print to another activity with another finger-print.
Skeleton Mage Jan 25, 2017 @ 2:49am 
All useful information - thanks Etnopluralism / Aliquis.

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:
I think you can turn of much of the spying in Windows 10 and also that much of it was added to the older versions so I don't really think that's an argument. Ubuntu too started to do the same thing BTW.

I'm aware of that for the recent windows operating systems through the fact that Ubuntu has started doing that is news to me. Research is clearly an advantage when learing about linux.
Originally posted by Sir Pent:
All useful information - thanks Etnopluralism / Aliquis.

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:
I think you can turn of much of the spying in Windows 10 and also that much of it was added to the older versions so I don't really think that's an argument. Ubuntu too started to do the same thing BTW.

I'm aware of that for the recent windows operating systems through the fact that Ubuntu has started doing that is news to me. Research is clearly an advantage when learing about linux.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/ubuntu-online-search-feature-disabled-16-04

The desktop search didn't only search your local stuff but .. maybe gave hits on Amazon and such or what not.
Kargor Jan 25, 2017 @ 4:07am 
This website http://www.lorenzostanco.com/lab/steam/ is currently the only one I know of that can filter your library for selectable conditions.

EDIT: obviously, it only works on public profiles so it can actually read the list of games you own :-)
Last edited by Kargor; Jan 25, 2017 @ 4:11am
Skeleton Mage Jan 25, 2017 @ 12:24pm 
[/quote]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/ubuntu-online-search-feature-disabled-16-04

The desktop search didn't only search your local stuff but .. maybe gave hits on Amazon and such or what not. [/quote]

I think the more recent versions of windows had that 'feature' favoring the windows store or something like that,
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