Intel turbo boost

[whatsssssup]

Hello i know this is not the right place to ask this but since im not so good at pc and maybe you guys can help me out with a problem i have. So i bought a computer i got it 3 days from now. And its 1 thing that bothers me. I have i5 7400 that has 3.0 ghz and it can go upp to 3.50. My only question is how can i make it go upp to 3.50 if its automatic how can i check it then?

[Andrius227]

It's automatic. You can see the actual speed in the Task manager > Performance tab. But that may require you to have multiple monitors or run games in windowed mode to see it while playing.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

I don't know what the boost is for a specific number of cores used, the 3.5 GHz is what it can reach with just one core in use, it may be lower for 2 or 3 cores and lower still with all 4 cores.

If can vary over time, if you run a game and it run on all cores then I guess you can run whatever software show clock-rate and see what it achive on all four cores.

With the i5 7600K it would be 3.8-4.2 GHz with the boost and I don't know how far people can over-clock that but say it could do 4.4 GHz for instance then that would be on all cores.

That may seem like a massive difference if the difference would be say 3.2 vs 4.4 GHz and I guess in a way it is but the i5 7400 isn't a bad processor either. If one put together the component oneself and is ok paying the additional cost for Z-motherboard and a CPU cooler then the 7600K would make more sense because of the higher performance it can reach but most pre-built systems doesn't use the unlocked K-models of processors and as such I don't think they come with Z-motherboards either and they may also have a weaker PSU because they the user won't overclock anyway.

You say "I got it 3 days from now", I don't know if that mean that you've got it three days ago or if it mean that you'll get it in three days (from now.)

I also don't know if this is something you worry about and if so if you could cancel the order and then it would be more worth to continue discussing it and see what you want to do or if you're just curious but it will be this computer regardless? If so it will clock at up to 3.5 GHz on a single core and at-least 3.0 GHz with all four cores in use.

A pretty cheap alternative if you're willing to overclock could be the Ryzen 5 1600, but I don't know how many systems use that, if you'd go with a pre-built system then not everyone will have i5 7600K systems I assume and they will cost a bit more, something which would also be the case if you'd choosen it yourself.

[whatsssssup]

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

I don't know what the boost is for a specific number of cores used, the 3.5 GHz is what it can reach with just one core in use, it may be lower for 2 or 3 cores and lower still with all 4 cores.

If can vary over time, if you run a game and it run on all cores then I guess you can run whatever software show clock-rate and see what it achive on all four cores.

With the i5 7600K it would be 3.8-4.2 GHz with the boost and I don't know how far people can over-clock that but say it could do 4.4 GHz for instance then that would be on all cores.

That may seem like a massive difference if the difference would be say 3.2 vs 4.4 GHz and I guess in a way it is but the i5 7400 isn't a bad processor either. If one put together the component oneself and is ok paying the additional cost for Z-motherboard and a CPU cooler then the 7600K would make more sense because of the higher performance it can reach but most pre-built systems doesn't use the unlocked K-models of processors and as such I don't think they come with Z-motherboards either and they may also have a weaker PSU because they the user won't overclock anyway.

You say "I got it 3 days from now", I don't know if that mean that you've got it three days ago or if it mean that you'll get it in three days (from now.)

I also don't know if this is something you worry about and if so if you could cancel the order and then it would be more worth to continue discussing it and see what you want to do or if you're just curious but it will be this computer regardless? If so it will clock at up to 3.5 GHz on a single core and at-least 3.0 GHz with all four cores in use.

A pretty cheap alternative if you're willing to overclock could be the Ryzen 5 1600, but I don't know how many systems use that, if you'd go with a pre-built system then not everyone will have i5 7600K systems I assume and they will cost a bit more, something which would also be the case if you'd choosen it yourself.

Hello thank you for all the information. No i have the pc already. Its a gtx 1070 with i5 7400 8gb ram. No i was just wondering because i want to buy batman arkham knight to my pc but i dont know if it worth it because i heard its no so good at pc. And i tought if i could overclock my computer or if i buy it can it run the game without overclocking the computer?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Originally posted by Asdssdds:

Hello thank you for all the information. No i have the pc already. Its a gtx 1070 with i5 7400 8gb ram. No i was just wondering because i want to buy batman arkham knight to my pc but i dont know if it worth it because i heard its no so good at pc. And i tought if i could overclock my computer or if i buy it can it run the game without overclocking the computer?

Congratulations on the PC and the very nice graphics card.
When games or components are benchmarked they hopefully try to avoid the other influences and hence when benchmarking a processor they hopefully use a GTX 1080Ti or Titan XP to make sure the graphics card is as little as a burden as possible to see what the CPU can actually deliver in best case scenario and when they test a graphics card they hopefully use something like the i7 7700K to make sure the CPU is having as little impact as possible. That may not be how people actually use them though since someone buying an i3 6100 is unlikely to pair it with a GTX 1080Ti. You have a pretty powerful graphics card so maybe that not always will be the bottleneck but the PC should be pretty fine. I don't know if you worry much about the processor part or not, I don't know if you could change the PC as is or if that's something you are interested in doing and at-least you'll always have the option to put up to a 7700K in there instead. You may want to get another 8 GB of RAM though. If you just have 1x8 then another 8 GB of at-least the same frequency and if you have 2x4 GB then another 2x4 GB, some people claim graphics card with more VRAM "need" more RAM and since you've got a powerful graphics card maybe 8 GB isn't as adequate for you as it is for me who have a much worse computer than you have :).

You can't overclock the i5 7400, you would had needed the i5 7600K and Z270 (or Z170) motherboard for that.

The recommended settings for the same is "Processor: Intel Core i7-3770, 3.4 GHz | AMD FX-8350, 4.0 GHz
Minne: 8 GB RAM
Grafik: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 - 3 GB Memory Recommended | AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3 GB Memory Recommended"

That's an i7, but an older i7. I assume your processor will be about as good maybe better.
Your graphics card is way better.

This is Arkham Knight on a graphics card which isn't as good as yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmMb6uJUlCM
It will likely run fine on your computer.

The game has been sold as a Star deal on Bundlestars and they also have a Batman Arkham Knight bundle.
The game on Bundlestars is €5.99 now, likely cheaper in USD:
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/game/batman-arkham-knight
And the bundle with a lot of DLC content is €13.59:
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/batman-arkham-knight-bundle
Likely cheaper in USD for that one too.
It may be another 5% off if you write the coupon code EASTER5 once you buy.
If you buy on Steam you can try the game for up to 2 hours and then ask for a refund (if you do so within 14 days) but it's not on sale on Steam right now. I would assume it would work just fine though.
Maybe Humble Bundle will do some new WB bundle with it some time too.

(I know about these prices because I use the plugin Steam Enhanced for Chrome which automatically check when using the Steam website and otherwise I would had visited isthereanydeal.com to see the price, there you can also see what's the best price the games have sold for on the decent websites (not the ones Valve doesn't like (As you see those Bundlestars links work just fine whereas these two other sites won't.))

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

In the video above with the RX 470 he never used 100% of his CPU, your GPU is better but he had like 90 FPS in 1080p or so and your graphics card will deliver even more (or allow you to play in ultra.)

I don't really think you should worry about "will I be able to" with a completely new computer.
The game should work fine.

For desktops the i3 is two core with hyper-threading, the i5 is quad-core and the i7 K models of the main-stream segments are quad-core with hyper-threading.

I don't think any of the games of today is unable to run on your machine. An overclocked i7 7700K will run them faster but it all should work on the i5 7400.

I don't want to worry you and I find it hard to strike the right balance =P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBQWf8JAOk

[whatsssssup]

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

In the video above with the RX 470 he never used 100% of his CPU, your GPU is better but he had like 90 FPS in 1080p or so and your graphics card will deliver even more (or allow you to play in ultra.)

I don't really think you should worry about "will I be able to" with a completely new computer.
The game should work fine.

For desktops the i3 is two core with hyper-threading, the i5 is quad-core and the i7 K models of the main-stream segments are quad-core with hyper-threading.

I don't think any of the games of today is unable to run on your machine. An overclocked i7 7700K will run them faster but it all should work on the i5 7400.

I don't want to worry you and I find it hard to strike the right balance =P

I saw the video and thank you for all the information. So i read my specs are good. Yes i can change evrything in my pc. And ill do it later. Ill add 8 more ram. And get a i7. But for now ill stick with my pc and test a little bit. I tested battlefield 1 its trail version on origin. I just downloaded it and i tested it i could play the game at ultra with 100-80 fps is that good ?. If i can run battlefield 1 in ultra does that mean i dont have to worry about other games like assassin creed syndicate/unity? Because ive allways wanted to test them out.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Originally posted by Asdssdds:

I saw the video and thank you for all the information. So i read my specs are good. Yes i can change evrything in my pc. And ill do it later. Ill add 8 more ram. And get a i7. But for now ill stick with my pc and test a little bit. I tested battlefield 1 its trail version on origin. I just downloaded it and i tested it i could play the game at ultra with 100-80 fps is that good ?. If i can run battlefield 1 in ultra does that mean i dont have to worry about other games like assassin creed syndicate/unity? Because ive allways wanted to test them out.

You don't need to change stuff in your computer. You just bought it. I want you to be happy with it.

i7 7700K will unlikely do all that much right now, there's lots and lots of games you can play. Eventually Intel too will have six-core processors on the main-stream platform, you can just wait until the computer doesn't do what you want to do with it any longer and upgrade then. No need to upgrade just because better stuff exist when what you have work just fine.

8 GB of RAM is cheap though, it used to be even cheaper, and 16 GB may offer a benefit with your graphics card. There's nothing really to lose from having it and it's a simple upgrade (assuming it can be upgraded at all that is.. :))

Yeah, my friend have an i7 6700K and 16 GB of RAM and the GTX 1080 and in 3440x1440 everything on max he can't get the full 100 FPS all the time either but occasionally it drop to 90ish. I think it's the processor which make him drop to 90ish frames per second but that's of course "fine" too, even if more is even better at-least if one have a monitor which can handle it but the game work just fine with his setup.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2673-battlefield-1-cpu-benchmark-dx11-vs-dx12-i5-i7-fx?showall=1
i3 6300 which is dual core: 111.3 FPS, 1% low FPS 80.3, 0.1% low FPS 70.3 FPS
i5 6400 weaker quad core than yours: 122.3 FPS, 1% low 77.3, 0.1% low 64.3
So the 0.1% low dropped there and maybe that was due to higher clocked cores on the i3? Whatever.
i5 6600K: 140.0 FPS, 92.3 1% low and 77.1 FPS 0.1% low.
i7 6700K without overclock: 155 FPS, 111 1% low, 96 0.1% low.

So they all hit 111-155 FPS average and the 0.1% lows was 64.3 on the i5 6400 (2.7 GHz one generation older than yours) and 96 on the i7 6700K, but dropping downwards 60 FPS isn't the end of the world.

My computer in CS:GO can stop showing any frames for 0.3 seconds and such. That's a problem.

Syndicate on bit faster i7 7500 and slower GTX 1060:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKRAXj-bqSc

Unity on a setup similar to yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jEuI9G6iDE

You should get the ~60 FPS Ultra experience with both on your computer.

Unity:
Recommended
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.4 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz or better
Recommended
8GB
Recommended
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 or AMD Radeon R9 290X (3 GB VRAM)

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7400/1979vs3886

Syndicate:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.5 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz
RAM: 8GB
Video: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 (4GB) or the newer GTX 970 (4GB) or AMD Radeon R9 280X (3GB) or better

Your processor multi-core performance may be slightly worse and your graphics card better but I don't think you have to worry. Also these are recommended not required/lowest specifications, required/lowest are lower.

[whatsssssup]

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

Originally posted by Asdssdds:

I saw the video and thank you for all the information. So i read my specs are good. Yes i can change evrything in my pc. And ill do it later. Ill add 8 more ram. And get a i7. But for now ill stick with my pc and test a little bit. I tested battlefield 1 its trail version on origin. I just downloaded it and i tested it i could play the game at ultra with 100-80 fps is that good ?. If i can run battlefield 1 in ultra does that mean i dont have to worry about other games like assassin creed syndicate/unity? Because ive allways wanted to test them out.

You don't need to change stuff in your computer. You just bought it. I want you to be happy with it.

i7 7700K will unlikely do all that much right now, there's lots and lots of games you can play. Eventually Intel too will have six-core processors on the main-stream platform, you can just wait until the computer doesn't do what you want to do with it any longer and upgrade then. No need to upgrade just because better stuff exist when what you have work just fine.

8 GB of RAM is cheap though, it used to be even cheaper, and 16 GB may offer a benefit with your graphics card. There's nothing really to lose from having it and it's a simple upgrade (assuming it can be upgraded at all that is.. :))

Yeah, my friend have an i7 6700K and 16 GB of RAM and the GTX 1080 and in 3440x1440 everything on max he can't get the full 100 FPS all the time either but occasionally it drop to 90ish. I think it's the processor which make him drop to 90ish frames per second but that's of course "fine" too, even if more is even better at-least if one have a monitor which can handle it but the game work just fine with his setup.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2673-battlefield-1-cpu-benchmark-dx11-vs-dx12-i5-i7-fx?showall=1
i3 6300 which is dual core: 111.3 FPS, 1% low FPS 80.3, 0.1% low FPS 70.3 FPS
i5 6400 weaker quad core than yours: 122.3 FPS, 1% low 77.3, 0.1% low 64.3
So the 0.1% low dropped there and maybe that was due to higher clocked cores on the i3? Whatever.
i5 6600K: 140.0 FPS, 92.3 1% low and 77.1 FPS 0.1% low.
i7 6700K without overclock: 155 FPS, 111 1% low, 96 0.1% low.

So they all hit 111-155 FPS average and the 0.1% lows was 64.3 on the i5 6400 (2.7 GHz one generation older than yours) and 96 on the i7 6700K, but dropping downwards 60 FPS isn't the end of the world.

My computer in CS:GO can stop showing any frames for 0.3 seconds and such. That's a problem.

Syndicate on bit faster i7 7500 and slower GTX 1060:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKRAXj-bqSc

Unity on a setup similar to yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jEuI9G6iDE

You should get the ~60 FPS Ultra experience with both on your computer.

Unity:
Recommended
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.4 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz or better
Recommended
8GB
Recommended
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 or AMD Radeon R9 290X (3 GB VRAM)

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7400/1979vs3886

Syndicate:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.5 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz
RAM: 8GB
Video: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 (4GB) or the newer GTX 970 (4GB) or AMD Radeon R9 280X (3GB) or better

Your processor multi-core performance may be slightly worse and your graphics card better but I don't think you have to worry. Also these are recommended not required/lowest specifications, required/lowest are lower.

Thank you for all the information. I just have one question left. When getting more ram how do i do it. Is it a disc that downloads it for you or do i need to open my pc and plug something in it?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Originally posted by Asdssdds:

Thank you for all the information. I just have one question left. When getting more ram how do i do it. Is it a disc that downloads it for you or do i need to open my pc and plug something in it?

Maybe it's better you don't worry about it. What computer did you buy?

The normal procedure would be to buy two memory modules like these:
https://centrecomstatic.s3.amazonaws.com/images/upload/0027640_0.png
And push them down into two empty sockets on the motherboard:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z7tMTgsgkxc/maxresdefault.jpg
If you just have 1x8 GB then 1x8 GB more would be the better way to do it, so just slot one in then.

It's not that advanced but maybe it's better you ask someone again before you want to do that if you decide to do that.

In general I guess it would had been best to ask questions before-hand but I totally understand not wanting to do so and just want to buy something good and just ask in a store / pick whatever fit the wallet and go with that too :)

[whatsssssup]

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

Originally posted by Asdssdds:

Thank you for all the information. I just have one question left. When getting more ram how do i do it. Is it a disc that downloads it for you or do i need to open my pc and plug something in it?

Maybe it's better you don't worry about it. What computer did you buy?

The normal procedure would be to buy two memory modules like these:
https://centrecomstatic.s3.amazonaws.com/images/upload/0027640_0.png
And push them down into two empty sockets on the motherboard:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z7tMTgsgkxc/maxresdefault.jpg
If you just have 1x8 GB then 1x8 GB more would be the better way to do it, so just slot one in then.

It's not that advanced but maybe it's better you ask someone again before you want to do that if you decide to do that.

In general I guess it would had been best to ask questions before-hand but I totally understand not wanting to do so and just want to buy something good and just ask in a store / pick whatever fit the wallet and go with that too :)

I can send you my specs.

Process
Intel® Core™ i5-7400 Processor 6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz

3.0 GHz

Intel®

i5-7400

Core i5

4 cores.


RAM
DDR4

8 GB

1 x 8 GB

2333 MHz

4

64 GB


graphic card
Nvidia GTX 1070

8 GB

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

2333 MHz? Really? Not 2133 or 2400 MHz? DDR3 or 4?
It would make the most sense for the system to use DDR4 and have 2400 MHz RAM.
But then just 1x8 2400 MHz DDR4 more would had been the thing to get if one wanted more RAM. But maybe it's DDR3. It would be the preferred upgrade because it would still leave you with two slots left and 1 8 GB module is likely a bit cheaper than 2 4 GB ones too.

Anyway, if you want the game I'd recommend getting it from Bundlestars rather than here on Steam since it's less than 1/3 the price there right now :). It's still a Steam key (activate by pressing "+ add a game" down to the lest in Steam) so the end-result would still be the same.

[whatsssssup]

Originally posted by Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

2333 MHz? Really? Not 2133 or 2400 MHz? DDR3 or 4?
It would make the most sense for the system to use DDR4 and have 2400 MHz RAM.
But then just 1x8 2400 MHz DDR4 more would had been the thing to get if one wanted more RAM. But maybe it's DDR3. It would be the preferred upgrade because it would still leave you with two slots left and 1 8 GB module is likely a bit cheaper than 2 4 GB ones too.

Anyway, if you want the game I'd recommend getting it from Bundlestars rather than here on Steam since it's less than 1/3 the price there right now :). It's still a Steam key (activate by pressing "+ add a game" down to the lest in Steam) so the end-result would still be the same.

My computer have DDR4